Beshear about to issue mask Mandate in schools?

PhDcat2018

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I assume this is a Catholic or private school? JCPS already voted and said they were requiring masks for everyone.

I don't necessarily agree with the decision, and my son is not pleased to have to wear a mask all day. I'm sure teachers aren't excited to spend an entire year being the mask police either.

That said, who cares really? It's just a stupid mask. Are we still outraged by masks? I've got more important **** to worry about.
There's so much more to it than "it's just a mask get over it" that's lib talk there.
 
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I assume this is a Catholic or private school? JCPS already voted and said they were requiring masks for everyone.

I don't necessarily agree with the decision, and my son is not pleased to have to wear a mask all day. I'm sure teachers aren't excited to spend an entire year being the mask police either.

That said, who cares really? It's just a stupid mask. Are we still outraged by masks? I've got more important **** to worry about.
You have to remember these people complaining have such weak lungs they can't breathe with a mask on.
 

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Nice strawman, but I'm not biting.

I'm with you that kids have missed out on a lot the past year. I'm just happy to have them back in real classes. Masks are an annoyance, not an existential crisis. Your kids will be fine just as mine will be.
You’ve obviously never taught young kids or knew how your kids were being taught. You cannot teach phonemic awareness to Kindergarten and first grade students while wearing a mask or while they’re masked. Schools in other states knew this and that’s part of why TN and others made sure that when students were seated they could take their masks off and so could the teacher.
 

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I want to see a mask mandate for OP's post thread button. Maybe he wouldn't be able to find it and start a child or mask thread every day.
Surely you wouldn’t want that with a screen name like rebelfreedomeagle. As long as they keep on with the nonsense, I’ll keep fighting for my kids and other kids out there who don’t have someone fighting for them.
 

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You’ve obviously never taught young kids or knew how your kids were being taught. You cannot teach phonemic awareness to Kindergarten and first grade students while wearing a mask or while they’re masked. Schools in other states knew this and that’s part of why TN and others made sure that when students were seated they could take their masks off and so could the teacher.
My kids are 13 and 10, so I didn't realize that was an issue. I agree that accommodations should be made for curriculum such as this.
 

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You’ve obviously never taught young kids or knew how your kids were being taught. You cannot teach phonemic awareness to Kindergarten and first grade students while wearing a mask or while they’re masked. Schools in other states knew this and that’s part of why TN and others made sure that when students were seated they could take their masks off and so could the teacher.
I know 1st and 2nd grade teachers who say their classes are dramatically behind where they should be. They completely understood parents removing their kids from public schools where they teach to get their kids into private education.
 

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My kids are 13 and 10, so I didn't realize that was an issue. I agree that accommodations should be made for curriculum such as this.
The older they are, the less it effects their instruction. Your children are of an age where it’s not as big of a deal as long as their speech isn’t effected. The biggest issue I’ve seen with masks at school is it dramatically increases the likelihood that kids touch their face. I watched several 3rd graders even reach under their mask to pick their nose when observing classes last year in KY. lol. I hope there is some middle ground if masks are mandated again. There’s no need for them during instruction if students are socially distanced in their seats, but I could understand hallways and buses.
 

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I know 1st and 2nd grade teachers who say their classes are dramatically behind where they should be. They completely understood parents removing their kids from public schools where they teach to get their kids into private education.
Yes. I have a child in 1st grade. If my wife wasn’t a teacher, I don’t know what we would have done. Her teacher last year is one of the best in the district but there was only so much that could be done with tied hands. The fact that the state isn’t using this time to rewrite standards and take away some of the “junk standards” that aren’t necessary for development is beyond me.
 
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How far is too far for the ones in favor of a new mask mandate, if it happens?

At what point will you say this is enough?
Online classes is my breaking point. I'm not in favor of masks at school necessarily, but I also don't really care about them either. Just not a big deal to me. However, after seeing virtual school for the better part of last year with my son, I never want him to go back to that again. It just doesn't work IMO.
 

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Online classes is my breaking point. I'm not in favor of masks at school necessarily, but I also don't really care about them either. Just not a big deal to me. However, after seeing virtual school for the better part of last year with my son, I never want him to go back to that again. It just doesn't work IMO.
Give them an inch, they take a mile. It starts with masks, and when the spread doesn't slow (because cloth on your face does nothing), closures will begin. It's only a matter of time at this point.
 

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I personally know a whole school district who didn't go to Frankfort and a minimum of 30 teachers in that district that didn't vote for Andy but hey don't let facts stand in the way of a good witch hunt.

I was actually making a joke to back up what you’re saying. I speak in veiled sarcasm at times.

I work at a small school. There are only 5 teachers who are openly political with me. 2 of them didn’t vote Andy and can’t stand him. I know a ton of teachers did vote for him, go to Frankfort, etc. but I also know many did not.
 

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I personally know a whole school district who didn't go to Frankfort and a minimum of 30 teachers in that district that didn't vote for Andy but hey don't let facts stand in the way of a good witch hunt.
Is your anecdote dispositive? Didn’t teachers pat themselves on the back publicly after he won? I guess I am asking if there might be more “facts.”
 

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I was actually making a joke to back up what you’re saying. I speak in veiled sarcasm at times.

I work at a small school. There are only 5 teachers who are openly political with me. 2 of them didn’t vote Andy and can’t stand him. I know a ton of teachers did vote for him, go to Frankfort, etc. but I also know many did not.
It really seemed that was the case in larger cities but not as much in smaller communities.
 

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Is your anecdote dispositive? Didn’t teachers pat themselves on the back publicly after he won? I guess I am asking if there might be more “facts.”
Some but not all voted for him, support him and patted themselves on the back when he won. I don't get why everyone thinks all teachers got together and voted the same way pulling off some kind of coup by getting Andy voted in. Kentucky has had a Democrat Governor 32 times compared to only 9 Republicans over the last 150 years. Were the results of all of those elections the teachers fault as well?🤷‍♂️😂
 
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I was actually making a joke to back up what you’re saying. I speak in veiled sarcasm at times.

I work at a small school. There are only 5 teachers who are openly political with me. 2 of them didn’t vote Andy and can’t stand him. I know a ton of teachers did vote for him, go to Frankfort, etc. but I also know many did not.
Sorry I didn't mean to tag you.
 
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I don't get why everyone thinks all teachers got together and voted the same way
Because the Union which represents the teachers publicly stated this.

There wasn't any pushback within the teacher ranks to say "Hey, you're not speaking for me."

If I see a conservative teacher on television, it will be my first.

What other conclusion is someone to make other than conservative teachers must be in such a minority that their opinion/votes are negligible.

Creed, I get it. My wife teaches in very conservative district. But, when the pension talk was at the forefront, the message from the board office on down was that Bevin was going to eliminate their pension. No grandfathering. No graduated scale down to new hires. She had been convinced that she would have zero dollars for retirement. She heard this from people that she respected. Those peoples opinions now have an asterisk beside them because of the last 18 months so there's that.
 

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Because the Union which represents the teachers publicly stated this.

There wasn't any pushback within the teacher ranks to say "Hey, you're not speaking for me."

If I see a conservative teacher on television, it will be my first.

What other conclusion is someone to make other than conservative teachers must be in such a minority that their opinion/votes are negligible.

Creed, I get it. My wife teaches in very conservative district. But, when the pension talk was at the forefront, the message from the board office on down was that Bevin was going to eliminate their pension. No grandfathering. No graduated scale down to new hires. She had been convinced that she would have zero dollars for retirement. She heard this from people that she respected. Those peoples opinions now have an asterisk beside them because of the last 18 months so there's that.
My wife sure didn't vote for him and neither did a lot of her teacher friends. For her some other things won out in her decision of who to vote for such as pro-life. While it may be hard to believe there are some people who find some things more important than if your retirement will be state funded teacher retirement or a 401K plan.
 

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Give them an inch, they take a mile. It starts with masks, and when the spread doesn't slow (because cloth on your face does nothing), closures will begin. It's only a matter of time at this point.
It's never been about a virus as much as its been about control. They want to decide when and what you can do. They want you to look to them for allowance and be thankful they allowed you to do something.
 
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Many school Superintendents in Kentucky have announced they are making mask optional for children, going directly against recommendations of king Andy and department of education commissioner Jason glass. The rumor has it that a mask mandate will soon be coming out of Frankfort…

With that said, here are the facts:

Governor Beshear can do this until we get the ruling from the Supreme Court . The bill allows him executive order privileges for 30 days, on any order, but the order can’t go past 30 days unless it is approved by the General Assembly. He would have to call a special session at a cost of $60,000 plus per day. He knows that at the cost, since there is a super majority, they would vote to end the majority of his orders. Up to this point he has been making recommendations because there is an injunction per Boone County ruling saying he can’t issue mandates any more.

In addition, 4 of the Supreme Court positions are up for re-election.

You decide the rest of the story….
But Commissioner Glass can issue a mask mandate for schools. The mandate can go for as long as he wants it to.
 

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No you can’t. If you have a classroom of 30 students unmasked and one comes down with Covid the ENTIRE class would be quarantined. School can’t stay open without masks the way quarantined work.
Who makes the quarantine rules? Who says the masks prevent infection?

How did strep/flu work in schools without masks?

Hate to break it to you - but people are making these decisions, SARs cov2 is not.
 

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No you can’t. If you have a classroom of 30 students unmasked and one comes down with Covid the ENTIRE class would be quarantined. School can’t stay open without masks the way quarantined work.

That's the perfect scenario. That class can quarantine together...in class. That's brilliant!
 

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Who makes the quarantine rules? Who says the masks prevent infection?

How did strep/flu work in schools without masks?

Hate to break it to you - but people are making these decisions, SARs cov2 is not.
Your local health department makes the quarantine rules. The CDC does as well. I don’t know if masks work or not. Neither do you. A bunch of people a lot smarter than both of us say they do though. Kids who go to school age 5-11 haven’t had the opportunity to be vaccinated. If me wearing a mask keeps them safer or keeps them from giving it to someone more vulnerable then I’ll wear the mask. I hate wearing them but I’ll do it.
 

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That's the perfect scenario. That class can quarantine together...in class. That's brilliant!
Not how it works. You know that. Everyone goes home. You get this in a few classrooms and the school shuts down. But…..at least you didn’t have to wear a mask. It’s simple. The one thing to keep kids in school are masks. It’s the rules. If everyone in a classroom has a mask on and someone gets covid people dont have to quarantine.
 

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No you can’t. If you have a classroom of 30 students unmasked and one comes down with Covid the ENTIRE class would be quarantined. School can’t stay open without masks the way quarantined work.
No they won’t, quarantining everyone is over. That’s what’s so ridiculous about all of this.
Guy at work tested positive Tuesday, there’s 5 of us here, no quarantining for those of us in contact, no testing.
 

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No they won’t, quarantining everyone is over. That’s what’s so ridiculous about all of this.
Guy at work tested positive Tuesday, there’s 5 of us here, no quarantining for those of us in contact, no testing.
Quarantining in your work setting may be over. It’s not over in schools. 30 kids in a classroom for an hour at a time combined with a much more contagious variant equals mass quarantines. Not saying I agree but it’s simply reality.
 

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Your local health department makes the quarantine rules. The CDC does as well. I don’t know if masks work or not. Neither do you. A bunch of people a lot smarter than both of us say they do though. Kids who go to school age 5-11 haven’t had the opportunity to be vaccinated. If me wearing a mask keeps them safer or keeps them from giving it to someone more vulnerable then I’ll wear the mask. I hate wearing them but I’ll do it.

Is it itchy and hot under that wool?
 
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Not how it works. You know that. Everyone goes home. You get this in a few classrooms and the school shuts down. But…..at least you didn’t have to wear a mask. It’s simple. The one thing to keep kids in school are masks. It’s the rules. If everyone in a classroom has a mask on and someone gets covid people dont have to quarantine.

Oh you're Mr Personality, aren't you. I see a sense of humor and critical thought are not strengths.