Beshear about to issue mask Mandate in schools?

bkingUK

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Id take that bet in a heartbeat if we look back to when masks were mandated everywhere.

It all comes down to what the majority of people are doing…because cloth on your face does NOTHING
Okay at minimum masks are proven to lessen spread and at maximum they provide at least some protection — even flimsy cloth masks. But I think this horse has been beaten. The earth is flat. And masks over your face don’t prevent particle spread. Also, you’re an absolutely terrible gambler.
 

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lol what a crock of ****. I work in occupational medicine and the vast majority of our clients have largely manual labor work forces and we haven’t treated a single person for heat related illness because of mask wearing ever since the pandemic started.
What I meant was it was 100 today here in south central ky, kids on a bus with no air and a mask, yeah ur side has all the great ideas, weres the seabelts, helmets and safety glasses, cause the world needs all the soft *** bubble wrap people we can get. I'm not totally anti masked but August and September is not the month for it. Now if they say when they get back from Thanksgiving break and go through maybe January I'd would agree to have my child wear it. The chicken **** mask ruling today is child abuse and anyone that thinks mask has made a difference is just going along with the world news tonight guys, who only wanna scare people. If anyone has a real solution then I'm all ears, but hiding behind a 270 day mask ruling for innocent kids just show how this country is in the toilet.
 
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I have a friend whose kid is immunocompromised and has 40% lung function. Being anonymous on the internet is one thing, but I don’t know how to process the people who say “it’s no big deal.”

There are little kids (likely millions) who have learning gaps that are now comparable to a kid with a learning disability. Those gaps will only grow. The impacts on their lives will be incalculable. Of course, we CAN calculate the trillions of debt those kids will inherit.

What about them?
 
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At minimum, masks retard the intellectual and emotional development of some subset of students.

At maximum, they placate parents' neurosis and provide incompetent people like your governor something to do, something to point to and say "look, I did something for you."

They never masked their school children in Sweden. No kid died afaik.
Except the study you’re referring to has been widely critiqued and has shown to have intentionally leave out certain data points.
 

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There are little kids (likely millions) who have learning gaps that are now comparable to a kid with a learning disability. Those gaps will only grow. The impacts on their lives will be incalculable. Of course, we CAN calculate the trillions of debt those kids will inherit.

What about them?
You’re saying wearing a mask in school causes bigger gaps in education? If your goal is to keep schools open then you should want to inhibit spread so people don’t freak out and close schools.
 
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Agree it's here to stay. I could be wrong, but isn't the seasonal flu today a variant of the original Spanish flu? I think covid just gets added to the list of coronaviruses that we have to deal with periodically.

In my mind, once they approve the vaccine for kids under 12, this needs to all go away (not the virus, but the mandates). At that point everyone can make their own decisions on whether to get vaxxed or to wear a mask as there is no more vulnerable population to protect that can't protect themselves in whatever manner they or their parents choose. If my family is fully vaccinated then I don't plan to wear a mask to protect your family that isn't. That's your choice and you live with the consequences (not you specifically, of course...the royal you).
Yup it just joined the group. Covid is close too. But politics and mandates
Would you have the same take if you were immunocompromised?
I am. And yes I've lived without worthless masks and went to school like everyone else. I'm not needing to be in a bubble as some, but still. Yes, I am immunocompromised. No, I'm not hiding in my basement with 10 masks on. Covid isn't the first, or worst, issue.
 

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Except the study you’re referring to has been widely critiqued and has shown to have intentionally leave out certain data points.

I'm talking about the preponderance of evidence, not one study in particular. The evidence that masking up! like a good lttle leftist lemming, does indeed do nothing is overwhelming.

Anyone (expert or not) who doesn't tell you at the very least that there is no conclusive evidence it does anything, is taking advantage of you.
 

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You’re saying wearing a mask in school causes bigger gaps in education? If your goal is to keep schools open then you should want to inhibit spread so people don’t freak out and close schools.
Yeah its because a child's mouth covered tells them to shutup and keep thier mouth shut because they are a disease carrying child whose interaction will decrease 70 percent with a covered mouth. Soft spoken kids will go mute, and classroom interaction is unacceptable because everyone is a deadly disease. So everyone sit and shutup the next 270 days because the king said so again.
 

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Texas has a higher rate of COVID per capita than the immigrants do. Get the natives in line.

This is an ignorant talking point.

It doesn't matter if they have less covid per capita than Texans do, what's important is that they are importing more virus to be transmitted in the populace.

The only result is more cases, more deaths than you otherwise would've had had you not facilitated mass illegal immigration.
 

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This is an ignorant talking point.

It doesn't matter if they have less covid per capita than Texans do, what's important is that they are importing more virus to be transmitted in the populace.

The only result is more cases, more deaths than you otherwise would've had had you not facilitated mass illegal immigration.
This is such a spoon fed argument from the media gods that it’s almost ridiculous
 

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The constant fake anger is so tiresome and silly. You may not like masks, but it's not child abuse and you're not living under a King's Rule. The side yelling TYRANT ANDY CANDY DANDY is the same side that's complained for years that kids today are too soft and need to be tougher. Now all of a sudden a piece of cloth is child abuse and children cannot breathe.

Some of you who hate this actually love it because it allows you to log on and *****. Lord knows your families don't want to listen to your rants. Take KingofBBN. Dude as been posting here all day ranting about anything other than masks. Reminds me of the UofL Sheriff goober. His gimmick is to be outraged by UK all day. Who the hell wants to spend all day outraged and constantly posting in anger?
Gotta wonder how their kids turn out...
 

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They certainly do. That this is somehow debatable is beyond sad.
Yes. Especially with kids along the autism spectrum who already struggle with social cues. I'm not a speech therapist, but I just wonder how much masks have done in terms of causing continued issues with their patients.
 

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Gotta wonder how their kids turn out...
No kidding. Actually deleted my post right after you quoted me because I didn't feel it was worth possibly getting into a mask battle tonight, but it's all good. I said my peace.
 

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Uh what. I have several friends at various levels of education. I’m going to ask them about this.

Not being able to see a teachers face well, especially as they form sounds? Not being able to hear what is being said because it’s muffled? And vice versa for the teacher to hear proper pronunciations?

The window is K-2. After that, gaps tend to become permanent.

And most damning, it’s the poor and the non-white (the supposed beneficiaries of “progressivism”), the ones that are already at-risk, who will suffer the most.

And our Governor and state board have now essentially said that this will go on forever because, after all, Covid is never going away.

Lunacy!
 
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No kidding. Actually deleted my post right after you quoted me because I didn't feel it was worth possibly getting into a mask battle tonight, but it's all good. I said my peace.
Well now I really opened up a can of worms
 

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Not being able to see a teachers face well, especially as they form sounds? Not being able to hear what is being said because it’s muffled? And vice versa for the teacher to hear proper pronunciations?

The window is K-2. After that, gaps tend to become permanent.

And most damning, it’s the poor and the non-white (the supposed beneficiaries of “progressivism”), the ones that are already at-risk, who will suffer the most.

And our Governor and state board have now essentially said that this will go on forever because, after all, Covid is never going away.

Lunacy!
Lol, who told you that
 

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Yeah its because a child's mouth covered tells them to shutup and keep thier mouth shut because they are a disease carrying child whose interaction will decrease 70 percent with a covered mouth. Soft spoken kids will go mute, and classroom interaction is unacceptable because everyone is a deadly disease. So everyone sit and shutup the next 270 days because the king said so again.

If your argument is maybe kids won't talk as much, maybe the masks should be permanent.
 

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Haha, my kids school which consistently tests in the top 1% nationally in all grade levels (worth its salt), is saying no to masks. They also refused to close last year without a single problem. I thank the lord everyday there is no one there like you!

which school is this?
 

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Gubner Andy's end run around the judges ruling. Gotta love libs, their hypocrisy never ends.

You knew that little prick would get his way one way or another.

Picked up my four year old from daycare today. He was telling me that he was playing and his mask fell off. He was upset cause he thought he was going to get in trouble but I said no worries buddy. His mask fell off and then one of the other kids stepped on it per him. Then when he told his teacher she just had him put it back on. (We didn't pack a spare they have disposable ones). This prevents sickness? Oh yeah right Andy science. Andy is a ****ing idiot. Its obvious he didn't do any of the raising of his own children cause he would know how asinine these mandates and masks are if had done anything at all with them.
 

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This is such a spoon fed argument from the media gods that it’s almost ridiculous

Seriously? My arguments are my own. You can't just flip around what I said to him and think you made some point You may as well have said, "I know you are, but what am I?"

If you intentionally import more virus, you cannot say defeating the virus is your top priority, at least not with any credulity. It's simply not logically consistent. Importing more virus increases virus transmission, not "dilute" it just because you have more people. That's a natural consequence, that's reality. If you heard that elsewhere, that's not the result of me being "spoon fed" anythnig, just you inadvertantly encountering the truth but not able to process it.
 

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Seriously? My arguments are my own. You can't just flip around what I said to him and think you made some point You may as well have said, "I know you are, but what am I?"

If you intentionally import more virus, you cannot say defeating the virus is your top priority, at least not with any credulity. It's simply not logically consistent. Importing more virus increases virus transmission, not "dilute" it just because you have more people. If you heard that elsewhere, that's not the result of me being "spoon fed" anythnig, just you inadvertantly encountering the truth but not able to process it.
You’re literally taking your talking points from Fox News and Twitter hacks
 

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I’m in a thread with people who think covid is a conspiracy, masks are useless and masks prevent kids from learning. I don’t think there’s anything I can possibly say that would let me lose credibility:

There's not an argument you can make that I can't summarily refute.

Covid is real, people should get vaxxed, masks are useless and some kids are harmed by them.
 

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Like I don’t even know watch Fox News and I can see political punditry a mile away.


He thinks clearly, you don't.

If you think clear thinking is restricted to one side of the aisle, that's just further evidence you don't think clearly.

He's right, you're wrong. The statement "well, they have less covid than native per capita." is not a rebuttal, but indeed just a political talking point made by idiots for idiots. It's an exceedingly ignorant statement to make. There's no sugar-coating it.
 

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He thinks clearly, you don't.

If you think clear thinking is restricted to one side of the aisle, that's just further evidence you don't think clearly.

He's right, you're wrong. The statement "well, they have less covid than native per capita." is not a rebuttal, but indeed just a political talking point made by idiots for idiots. It's an exceedingly ignorant statement to make. There's no sugar-coating it.
Yea I don’t see this as being a partisan argument. That’s kind of the other way.
 

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I’m in a thread with people who think covid is a conspiracy, masks are useless and masks prevent kids from learning. I don’t think there’s anything I can possibly say that would let me lose credibility:
U say useless as in no use, thats not what we have here, what we have is a type of mask and the settings it's being used in. My child got out of school today were she wore a mask, less than two hours later we returned to school were she's a high school cheerleader and the practice for a game they will have in a week in which no one will be masked. WTF are we really doing cause I have no idea.
 
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