Another hipster douche response that isn't even in reality. This was not even remotely close.Pavement
I did say built to spill. And I forgot guided by voices. Thanks for reminding me.Another hipster douche response that isn't even in reality. This was not even remotely close.
Also, if you're going to keep being pretentious, at least go further. Say guided by voices or built to spill. Be better. You're being too obvious.
You're a funny guy. You really are hahaha I've laughed so hard at this.Another hipster douche response that isn't even in reality. This was not even remotely close.
Also, if you're going to keep being pretentious, at least go further. Say guided by voices or built to spill. Be better. You're being too obvious.
^ good call.
The Dr. Dre Band for me, though. The Chronic, Doggystyle, 2001 -- among countless other influences & projects ----> that's enough for me.
You're a funny guy. You really are hahaha I've laughed so hard at this.
Wilson Phillips, FTMFPGW
I could go on, but you get the point. If you don't like WP you're just a damned *****.
- 1990 debut album sold 10,000,000 copies
- Three #1 singles off the debut album
- 1990 Single of the Year (Hold On)
- Four Grammy nominations
Nirvana is perhaps the most over credited, overrated band in music history.
This isnt true at all. They capitalized on a genre that was already there. Even Cobain said they just ripped off the pixies.NIRVANA...hands down - created an entire sub-genre of rock.
This isnt true at all. They capitalized on a genre that was already there. Even Cobain said they just ripped off the pixies.
Its the reason Butch Vig made their record the way it did and why for the second big release on Geffen, they ditched Albini's "minimalist" sound for the more produced sound. They were influential for sure, but not the most influential by any stretch. They just had the most commercial success.
Yeah, I dont have Nirvana, and probably put them in top 10 bands based on their influence. I guess I am trying to make a distinction between the perception of what Nirvana was and what they actually accomplished.Good points LEK. Although I still believe GWAR to be the best band ever. (no one can possibly provide evidence to debate this, but that's another debate).
I do disagree about Nirvana's influence. They took angst, which had been hiding under the speed metal genre, and brought it out on a national level. Because of Nirvana, it brought out the obvious. "**** sucks and I"m effing angry about it" mentality. It reached everyone, not just metal heads. The music was simple but it was raw. The kind of raw that matches the raw emotions of frustration and anger.
Some people have better tastes than others. Some people prefer cheap *** ****. Some dont. But its like anything else, if you enjoy something, you usually will become an expert in that field.I love when the hipsters come prancing in to slam everyone else's taste in music like they were Charelton Heston in The Ten Commandments throwing the tablets at us. Hey, it's music and people like different things. I really don't give a flying flip if you like Nirvana or not, just spare me the snotty upper lip because you listen to a garage band in Newark that is totally non-commercial and only plays for homeless people because they are all vegans. Get a life.
Yeah, I dont have Nirvana, and probably put them in top 10 bands based on their influence. I guess I am trying to make a distinction between the perception of what Nirvana was and what they actually accomplished.
They were definitely a spear head of a movement, I am just saying that they movement had already been growing behind them. If it had not been Nirvana, it would have been someone else. The music industry was already signing indie bands at an alarming rate. A lot of them feared the back lash from their roots by "selling out." People had been sick of arena butt rock for years, it was in the decline. This was the last threshold in my mind of corporate america winning the culture war. We see things like MasterCard first use the slogan, "for everything else, there is mastercard." They capitalized on the angst by saying you are unique, but hey, you need our product. Every one is unique, but everyone do the same thing. Nirvana in a lot of ways is corporate america taking over. That so called angst, was just manufactured and distorted. It was the last great line. We as a culture have either evolved, or devolved depending how you look at it. We made selling out, ok. Even today, we can rationalize it.
As a music industry, Nirvana's influence was more commercial based. They were the first indie band to sell X amount of records, so it had an effect on the culture or society. However, it terms of influence to other musicians is where I take note. Slint or the pixies, or even Bjork, had more influence on music, maybe not culturally. Its this same affect on why we call the Velvet Underground the most influential rock band of the 20th century. Its not that every one bought their records, its that the people who did, started bands, which everyone else liked.
The other poster stated Nirvana spawned a bunch of bands, and I dont think that is necessarily true.
The reason a lot of people that dont like nirvana (I do) is based around a lot of the homogenization they produced in our culture.
^ Soundgarden, Mother Love Bone, and Mudhoney as well.
Revisionist history and you have terrible taste in music. Its ok. Some think McDonalds is top of the line. Doesnt mean it is.Nirvana may have had many influences in their sound, but they WERE responsible for bringing Alternative Rock mainstream. You think many people outside of Seattle were listening to the effing Screaming Trees or the Melvins? Jeezus! Nirvana brought the Seattle sound to the MASS populus and thus they are responsible for the sub-genre that dominated mainstream rock for much of the 90's in my opinion - because without them I do not think the movement would've made it too far east of the west coast. Nirvana opened the door for bands like Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, STP, Alice in Chains (although they've never charecterized themselves as a grunge rock band), Smashing Pumpkins, etc., etc. to hit the big time. Hell, Kurt Cobain's insecurity about how scrawny he was even influenced the look of grunge rock with the multiple layers of clothes.
So many elitist music snobs on here - I'm choking from all the puffery. Putting down music just because it's mainstream makes you an idiot in my opinion. Putting down people for liking music that you don't makes you a fascist. If you don't like it, great, fine, that's your bag, but everyone's entitled to their own opinion.
Nirvana may have had many influences in their sound, but they WERE responsible for bringing Alternative Rock mainstream. You think many people outside of Seattle were listening to the effing Screaming Trees or the Melvins? Jeezus! Nirvana brought the Seattle sound to the MASS populus and thus they are responsible for the sub-genre that dominated mainstream rock for much of the 90's in my opinion - because without them I do not think the movement would've made it too far east of the west coast. Nirvana opened the door for bands like Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, STP, Alice in Chains (although they've never charecterized themselves as a grunge rock band), Smashing Pumpkins, etc., etc. to hit the big time. Hell, Kurt Cobain's insecurity about how scrawny he was even influenced the look of grunge rock with the multiple layers of clothes.
So many elitist music snobs on here - I'm choking from all the puffery. Putting down music just because it's mainstream makes you an idiot in my opinion. Putting down people for liking music that you don't makes you a fascist. If you don't like it, great, fine, that's your bag, but everyone's entitled to their own opinion.
I thought Pearl Jam formed in 1990?Yeah, the effing Melvins. The same Melvins that Kurt use to play drums in from time to time. The Seattle scene was going alternative long before Nirvana exploded. Pearl Jam was already rocking, so Nirvana didn't open up the doors for them. Alice Chains got a break from the Monsters of Rock touring with anthrax, Megadeth, and Slayer. That catapaulted them
I thought Pearl Jam formed in 1990?
I still have that Jesus Lizard / Nirvana split 7 inch.
What decade did you grow up in? This tends to influence most people's taste.90 is general was a terrible decade for music. I mean real bad. Like it never even existed. Rock since then for that matter. Nickelback and all of those terrible bands would not have ever been on my radio if not for these ****** 90's look at me I am trying to create something new crap bands.
99% of the bands listed I could not name one damn song from any of them. That says enough. Locked in a room and forced to suffer with one bands collection, I would take Duran Duran over the 90's ****.
Jesus Christ, that might be the worst take I've ever read.90 is general was a terrible decade for music. I mean real bad. Like it never even existed. Rock since then for that matter. Nickelback and all of those terrible bands would not have ever been on my radio if not for these ****** 90's look at me I am trying to create something new crap bands.
99% of the bands listed I could not name one damn song from any of them. That says enough. Locked in a room and forced to suffer with one bands collection, I would take Duran Duran over the 90's ****.
They tend to congregate in one thread and backslap each other, too. Just look at the like totals. Pretty sad little bunch that I would dearly love to flame into tender but alas they have a mod that escorts them around like their own little monkey to do their bidding. He'll be along shortly to check on things and make sure nobody called them any names or insulted their little club/thread lest they be banned.So many elitist music snobs on here - I'm choking from all the puffery. Putting down music just because it's mainstream makes you an idiot in my opinion. Putting down people for liking music that you don't makes you a fascist. If you don't like it, great, fine, that's your bag, but everyone's entitled to their own opinion.