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Annnnnnnnddddd it's this line of thinking which will get more people killed who otherwise shouldn't. Make no mistake, they want to kill us. Just give them an opening and they will exploit it.

Its the weak minded that listen to cable news channels that go through life fearing things that they shouldn't. Even in Israel more people are killed in car accidents than by terrorists but go on listening to the false prophets on whatever cable news channel that has you brainwashed
 

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Its the weak minded that listen to cable news channels that go through life fearing things that they shouldn't. Even in Israel more people are killed in car accidents than by terrorists but go on listening to the false prophets on whatever cable news channel that has you brainwashed
There is a difference between "fearing" things and being vigilant. You are not likely to be killed driving a car either, but you buckle you seat belt.
 

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Tell that to the 139 people at the Paris concert or the folks lucky enough to go to work at 1 WTC on 9-11-01.
There is a difference between "fearing" things and being vigilant. You are not likely to be killed driving a car either, but you buckle you seat belt.

It doesn't matter your more likely to be killed by driving a car than you are by a terrorist. You are more likely to be crushed by furniture than be killed by a terrorist

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...shed-by-furniture-than-killed-by-a-terrorist/
 

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You take precautions when you drive a car. You take precautions when you lift furniture. Why? Are you scared to drive?

Nope im not scared to drive, Im not scared of furniture and Im not scared of terrorists. If you fear terrorists then you should fear getting behind the wheel of a car because your chance of being killed behind the wheel far exceed that of being killed by Terrorist. You should fear whats on your dinner plate more than a terrorist because sucking down whoppers and Big mac's kill more people than terrorists do. Should the goverment take precautions against terrorist attacks of course but the threat is way over Hyped compared to allot of things that can kill you. It was unfortunate that 139 people where killed in Paris but there is over 8 million people that live within the city limits and another 4 million that live in the suburbs what percent is 139 of 8 million? The 2000 people that where killed on 9-11-01 in a city of 8 million what percent is 2000 of 8 million? How many major terrorist attacks have happened on us soil since that day? How many attacks happened before that day? The amount of people killed by drunk drivers,heart disease, cancer and furniture far exceeds the death tolls of terrorists
 

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Its the weak minded that listen to cable news channels that go through life fearing things that they shouldn't. Even in Israel more people are killed in car accidents than by terrorists but go on listening to the false prophets on whatever cable news channel that has you brainwashed
Yep, that's where I get my Intel and form my opinions, watching cable news.
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Nope im not scared to drive, Im not scared of furniture and Im not scared of terrorists. If you fear terrorists then you should fear getting behind the wheel of a car because your chance of being killed behind the wheel far exceed that of being killed by Terrorist. You should fear whats on your dinner plate more than a terrorist because sucking down whoppers and Big mac's kill more people than terrorists do. Should the goverment take precautions against terrorist attacks of course but the threat is way over Hyped compared to allot of things that can kill you. It was unfortunate that 139 people where killed in Paris but there is over 8 million people that live within the city limits and another 4 million that live in the suburbs what percent is 139 of 8 million? The 2000 people that where killed on 9-11-01 in a city of 8 million what percent is 2000 of 8 million? How many major terrorist attacks have happened on us soil since that day? How many attacks happened before that day? The amount of people killed by drunk drivers,heart disease, cancer and furniture far exceeds the death tolls of terrorists
So 3k dead isnt a big deal since 10 million live in NYC. Makes sense.
 

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Nope im not scared to drive, Im not scared of furniture and Im not scared of terrorists. If you fear terrorists then you should fear getting behind the wheel of a car because your chance of being killed behind the wheel far exceed that of being killed by Terrorist. You should fear whats on your dinner plate more than a terrorist because sucking down whoppers and Big mac's kill more people than terrorists do. Should the goverment take precautions against terrorist attacks of course but the threat is way over Hyped compared to allot of things that can kill you. It was unfortunate that 139 people where killed in Paris but there is over 8 million people that live within the city limits and another 4 million that live in the suburbs what percent is 139 of 8 million? The 2000 people that where killed on 9-11-01 in a city of 8 million what percent is 2000 of 8 million? How many major terrorist attacks have happened on us soil since that day? How many attacks happened before that day? The amount of people killed by drunk drivers,heart disease, cancer and furniture far exceeds the death tolls of terrorists
I like this logic. I hope after the next major attack someone stands up in the Congressional hearing and uses this logic. Should make for great TV.

There were quite a few terrorist attacks on US interests world wide preceding the 9/11 attacks. We knew based on the original WTC attacks that they were a target. However, the same logic was used throughout the 90s because the Cold War was over. Drastic reductions in military and intelligence spending. The we got hit. We've had numerous attempts thwarted since 9/11, we've had a couple of small scale attacks that were successful and they will continue.

I understand your logic as flawed as it is. Hell, you could apply that to a variety of things in defense and intelligence spending. Just because the percentages are low doesn't mean we should be betting on the come with people's lives.
 

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So 3k dead isnt a big deal since 10 million live in NYC. Makes sense.

Nobody said it wasn't a big deal but there bigger threats to your well being than terrorists and that is the point. If you are scared of them then there are other things that pose more imminent threat to your well being. The terrorist threat is way over hyped and that is the point and once again what percent is 3000 of 10 million?
 

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I like this logic. I hope after the next major attack someone stands up in the Congressional hearing and uses this logic. Should make for great TV.

There were quite a few terrorist attacks on US interests world wide preceding the 9/11 attacks. We knew based on the original WTC attacks that they were a target. However, the same logic was used throughout the 90s because the Cold War was over. Drastic reductions in military and intelligence spending. The we got hit. We've had numerous attempts thwarted since 9/11, we've had a couple of small scale attacks that were successful and they will continue.

I understand your logic as flawed as it is. Hell, you could apply that to a variety of things in defense and intelligence spending. Just because the percentages are low doesn't mean we should be betting on the come with people's lives.

Your logic is flawed and the numbers back it up. There are more people killed in Israel in car accidents than there are by terrorists. The government over hypes the terrorist threat to scare people so it can justify the amount of money it spends on surveillance programs and whatever wasteful projects it feels like pursuing. More people are killed by cancer, accidental shootings, natural disaters than are killed by terrorists like it or not that is a fact and the numbers back it up
 

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Your logic is flawed and the numbers back it up. There are more people killed in Israel in car accidents than there are by terrorists. The government over hypes the terrorist threat to scare people so it can justify the amount of money it spends on surveillance programs and whatever wasteful projects it feels like pursuing. More people are killed by cancer, accidental shootings, natural disaters than are killed by terrorists like it or not that is a fact and the numbers back it up
Disband the military, if we don't have it, we can't get into wars.
 

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Your logic is flawed and the numbers back it up. There are more people killed in Israel in car accidents than there are by terrorists. The government over hypes the terrorist threat to scare people so it can justify the amount of money it spends on surveillance programs and whatever wasteful projects it feels like pursuing. More people are killed by cancer, accidental shootings, natural disaters than are killed by terrorists like it or not that is a fact and the numbers back it up

If a terrorist get a weapon of mass destruction and the ability to use it on American soil, it will happen. The last time a checked, falling furniture or a deer running amuck wouldn't cause much damage. If we could just be assured that in a terrorist attack that only people of your thinking were killed, it would be ok to quit being vigilant. I guess Israel's border security and armed guards roaming the streets, are to keep runaway cars from causing mass casualties . Not to mention the walls they have built to keep Arabs from coming in freely. Some people's reasoning is so bad it's astounding. No wonder they vote for Sanders or Obama.
 

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If a terrorist get a weapon of mass destruction and the ability to use it on American soil, it will happen. The last time a checked, falling furniture or a deer running amuck wouldn't cause much damage. If we could just be assured that in a terrorist attack that only people of your thinking were killed, it would be ok to quit being vigilant. I guess Israel's border security and armed guards roaming the streets, are to keep runaway cars from causing mass casualties . Not to mention the walls they have built to keep Arabs from coming in freely. Some people's reasoning is so bad it's astounding. No wonder they vote for Sanders or Obama.
There is a bit of difference between the terror attack and the other causes of death. Terrorist actually PLAN the destruction and taking of human life.

Falling furniture probably does not target a victim. In most cases of drunk driving, the victim is not preselected. There is no intent to give people cancer. If you cannot make that distinction, you are beyond help and are potentially a loaded bomb waiting to explode. In short, this supporter of terrorism, needs help immediately.
 

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Yep, that's where I get my Intel and form my opinions, watching cable news.
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One thing I've noticed about Fox News is that they seem to go overboard in hyping any potential terrorist threat. It seems that it fits their agenda of portraying Obama as weak on terrorism. But the fact is, terrorism sells. I hate to say this but it is much more interesting watching a terrorism story than watching budget debates or election coverage. from a pure marketing perspective, terrorism equates to more viewers which equates to more money. of course broadcast corporations would never abuse that idea. Would they?
 

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One thing I've noticed about Fox News is that they seem to go overboard in hyping any potential terrorist threat. It seems that it fits their agenda of portraying Obama as weak on terrorism. But the fact is, terrorism sells. I hate to say this but it is much more interesting watching a terrorism story than watching budget debates or election coverage. from a pure marketing perspective, terrorism equates to more viewers which equates to more money. of course broadcast corporations would never abuse that idea. Would they?

Fox news has found a niche to sell advertising. Terrorism is real and happens in spectacular ways. When it does, all the news networks cover it. It's actually everyday things that Fox covers in a way that increases viewers and brings in more advertising dollars. That's why they are doing so well.
 

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One thing I've noticed about Fox News is that they seem to go overboard in hyping any potential terrorist threat. It seems that it fits their agenda of portraying Obama as weak on terrorism. But the fact is, terrorism sells. I hate to say this but it is much more interesting watching a terrorism story than watching budget debates or election coverage. from a pure marketing perspective, terrorism equates to more viewers which equates to more money. of course broadcast corporations would never abuse that idea. Would they?
Absolutely. Keeping fear alive is an essential part of the Fox (and related whacko) mantra. It has powerful marketing power and political power. Plus, gun makers are pretty pleased about it as well.
 

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One thing I've noticed about Fox News is that they seem to go overboard in hyping any potential terrorist threat. It seems that it fits their agenda of portraying Obama as weak on terrorism. But the fact is, terrorism sells. I hate to say this but it is much more interesting watching a terrorism story than watching budget debates or election coverage. from a pure marketing perspective, terrorism equates to more viewers which equates to more money. of course broadcast corporations would never abuse that idea. Would they?
I wouldn't single out Fox in this regard and I'm not trying to defend them. When it's all said and done, I don't really care about what the news covers or it doesn't. There is a real threat out there and one I am intimately familiar with. Period. Whatever keeps the tap open and dollars flowing to fight it, I'm for.
 

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Absolutely. Keeping fear alive is an essential part of the Fox (and related whacko) mantra. It has powerful marketing power and political power. Plus, gun makers are pretty pleased about it as well.
Most gun owners I know don't purchase for a defense against Terrorism. I'm sure they exist, I just don't know any. Everyone I know purchases for two reasons. 1. They can. They understand the more they purchase, the harder it is for the Gov't to take them away. 2. For defense of self, property, and family.
 

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Absolutely. Keeping fear alive is an essential part of the Fox (and related whacko) mantra. It has powerful marketing power and political power. Plus, gun makers are pretty pleased about it as well.

Gun purchasing increases has nothing to do with terrorism, it's due to the Marxist leanings of or Commander in Chief.
 

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Gun purchasing increases has nothing to do with terrorism, it's due to the Marxist leanings of or Commander in Chief.
Massive spikes in gun purchasing has everything to do with fear. Obama wanted to institute stronger measures for background checks which the whackos spun as "Obama wants to take your guns away". Result was massive gun sales all driven by fear. Fine with me, part of my salary comes from taxes from sporting equipment.
 

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Most gun owners I know don't purchase for a defense against Terrorism. I'm sure they exist, I just don't know any. Everyone I know purchases for two reasons. 1. They can. They understand the more they purchase, the harder it is for the Gov't to take them away. 2. For defense of self, property, and family.

False representations are a requirement from the left.
 

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Massive spikes in gun purchasing has everything to do with fear. Obama wanted to institute stronger measures for background checks which the whackos spun as "Obama wants to take your guns away". Result was massive gun sales all driven by fear. Fine with me, part of my salary comes from taxes from sporting equipment.

Really..... It's fine with you? Next you will be thanking Fox News for your salary. I'm sure Fox News is appreciative that you and your fellow nut dudes helped them to the top in cable news.
 
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Dude-I work in natural resource management. I know who buys guns and for what.
If you liberals have all that information, just exactly why is more info needed. Not NRA associated, but may I question what info is available to your agency? Will it still be there with a new president appointing new agency heads? Really hope that that kind of info is not made available to the people with an agenda like you.
 

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If you liberals have all that information, just exactly why is more info needed. Not NRA associated, but may I question what info is available to your agency? Will it still be there with a new president appointing new agency heads? Really hope that that kind of info is not made available to the people with an agenda like you.
LOL-Broad brush much? You think I'm about taking guns away? That's funny.
 

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Dude-I work in natural resource management. I know who buys guns and for what.

You political concern for gun control is laughable. Meanwhile here is a Chicago shooting and murder update. I assume you know who bought all the guns used in these shootings.
2016 Year to Date
Shot & Killed: 64
Shot & Wounded: 287

February To Date
Shot & Killed: 11
Shot & Wounded: 41
 

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You political concern for gun control is laughable. Meanwhile here is a Chicago shooting and murder update. I assume you know who bought all the guns used in these shootings.
2016 Year to Date
Shot & Killed: 64
Shot & Wounded: 287

February To Date
Shot & Killed: 11
Shot & Wounded: 41
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You political concern for gun control is laughable. Meanwhile here is a Chicago shooting and murder update. I assume you know who bought all the guns used in these shootings.
2016 Year to Date
Shot & Killed: 64
Shot & Wounded: 287

February To Date
Shot & Killed: 11
Shot & Wounded: 41

What the hell took you so long. I've been sitting on pins and needles waiting for a Chicago update.
 

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I think it's a riot these whackos think I'm against gun rights. Talk about blind generalizations.