Biff's 10% increase in DoD spending.....
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As is quite normal, an opening salvo. Some GOPers want more defense spending (e.g. McCain). Most libs want more social spending. Trump will get his defense spending increase but the Dems will filibuster so some sort of negotiation will take place. BTW, Trump's proposed cuts are across the discretionary board based on this article and contradicts an earlier post.
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/...budget-said-to-boost-defense-spending-cut-epa
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/...budget-said-to-boost-defense-spending-cut-epa
I would assume he just pulled it out of the air just like he did when he described how it would be paid for. It's like finding some guy in a bar and telling him he's the next POTUS, you would get an equally qualified person.
He just pulled it out of the air? How do you know this? Did Obama pull numbers out of the air? Like the $2,500 in savings each family would achieve under Obamacare? Was that pulled out of the air?
Did Obama pull the never exceeding 8% unemployment if we passed the stimulus out of the air? I could go on and on.
So you're good with being exposed to lead, PCBs, mercury, DDT and all those other nasties the EPA dealt with?
Get off this bs. The world is not going to end if the EPA budget is trimmed. We have the Feds and 50 states all with EPA's.
We can have a clean environment and still save this money. It is not either/or as you try and paint it. No agency is absolutely efficient. No agency does things that all add value. Heck, we learned yesterday the EPA employees have gym memberships paid for by the tax payers. How does that relate to the environment?
Yes. We are overpopulated. I make it a point to live in upscale neighborhoods where the air is clean, the grass is green, and the water is pure. My house is filled with many expensive leather bound books and smells of rich mahogany.
I don't get scared by the boogeyman. I am the boogeyman.
That still looks like it would float. Anything he touched turned to ****, so I'd imagine something akin to Cuban or Haitian refugee boat.The new Obama class carrier
Because I would rather fund the defense industry than a bunch of tree hugging ******.
I'm a scientist as well. What does that have to do with anything? The regs aren't going away. We're just cutting out some BS. Be honest.
So you admit that it's mainly corporate welfare for Boeing, Raytheon, Northrup-Grumman, Lockheed-Martin, etc., and a jobs program for blue states. Never mind whether we actually need a third of what they build or whether we can keep what we buy in operating condition, as long as the pork gets safely delivered.
Here we go again. I'll start. Pruitt twice sued EPA as Oklahoma AG to have them strip mercury emission standards from coal fired plants. You see, climate change regulation is woven into already existing regulation in many cases.
I actually don't think we need another carrier, I was being sarcastic. I admit we are woefully behind in sparing packages, needed ECPs to address obsolescence, and new equipment purchases. I acknowledge that as long as we lead the world as the tip of the spear for Democracy, we will continue to need a sizable advantage in military technology, troop strength, hardware, and an active presence around the world. You fund it now when you don't need it so we don't repeat numerous examples (WWI, WWII, and Korea) of times past when we unprepared for when the inevitable drums of war are beat. Without us, that drum will sound more often around the world than it does now and it risks growing into something out of our control and ability to resolve without the spilling of excess American blood. Peace through Strength. And yes, I advocate for a strong utilization of Defense Contractor support as it sustains millions of middle class TAX PAYING American jobs that would otherwise not have an avenue for employment. Only a fool would suggest an alternative approach.
As hard as they've tried, Plants can't keep up technologically (scrubbers and such) with the ever decreasing emission standards. That's why they'll clean the coal and deal more so with the metals on the ground. It's happening. Get used to it or go chain yourself to a fence or stfu.
So back to your original point, yes, it's happening. The talking points for this were generated back in 1970 when the EPA first opened its doors and mercury levels in the soil from the atmosphere were having significant impact on crops, livestock and wildlife. Here in NY, mercury levels are just now dropping to a point where fish can be consumed in some Adirondack Lakes. That trajectory must not change.
https://www.health.ny.gov/environmental/outdoors/fish/health_advisories/regional/adirondack.htm