Best defense coordinator in the nation. 350 yards. Best offense coordinator. 109 yards. 5 star qb with zero confidence. Nothing. Tonight makes it official, if it wasn't already.
Big Game James
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The OC sucks. That is best he can come up with after a bye week? No wonder Allar is still mid.
They were physically beat up. AK’s pass pro scheme isn’t good and Drew is a back foot bandit due to it. Pass protection matters if you have a statue QB.
The O still has issues against the best teams. Drew running needs to occur before we are down. Hope we pull it out but they need to get him running earlier as he seems to play better.
How many OC’s can we blame before we start to realize it’s the one running the ship. My wife has a friend who is always saying “I can’t find a good man!” My wife finally said to her “you know, maybe it’s not them”. Hey James, maybe it’s not your OC’s.
Why don't you all just stop watching the games?
Yes, Franklin needs to stop hiring OCs that refuse to adapt to their talent--that's on him. It's also AK for trying to prove he's smarter than everyone
James Franklin roasted after Penn State loses another big game
Penn State lost another game against an AP Top 10 team and coach James Franklin, known for his big-game failings, is catching heat for it.
www.saturdaydownsouth.com
Franklin is the person who allowed Donovan to run the read option with Hackenberg......
Agreed. Which is why Allar should have entered the draft or used the portal...his loyalty is a flaw.
No QB that wants to play in the NFL should come here.
The offense had issues against Villanova.
He would have likely flamed out in the NFL. Going to the draft guarantees nothing. Ask Freddie Scott or Aaron Maybin.
I didn't say it does...but he's not being developed here so he needed to leave.
Also Maybin made the right move...so did Rasheed Wallace and Parker Washington....Scott did not
Franklin is a good man and a coach who works hard and tries to win the right way. We all want him to be successful here first.James Franklin roasted after Penn State loses another big game
Penn State lost another game against an AP Top 10 team and coach James Franklin, known for his big-game failings, is catching heat for it.www.saturdaydownsouth.com
But that national narrative is why he won’t leave Penn State for a very long time. The Floridas, LSUs and Bamas of the world are not going to hire a coach with that kind of big game baggage. 4-21 vs top ten teams gets you fired down South or at USC.
And those are the only programs with the means and resources to get James to leave PSU.
None of them have been fired. I’m just using them as “hot seat” examples. Those are the big jobs that seem most likely to open up in the next year or so.
A vast majority of these big game losses have similar fingerprints on them -- they play not to lose on offense rather than attempting to grab the game by the throat from the first possession. Could see it from the first set of plays tonight. Then when they get down 14 and have to go into desperation mode, the real offense finally shows up. Same thing happened in the Big Ten title game last year -- had to open it up because they were down big early. The OC tries to be too cute and has the arrogance to prove HIS plays are gonna work. Not against elite speed on defense they won't. It's just amazing to me that an offense with all of this experience and a 2nd year with the OC and they look hopelessly lost in run/pass blocking and WRs are so easy to cover.
CJF gets the heat because he is the boss with the huge salary. The blame for this one is on the lack of player execution. CJF doesn't run, block or throw the ball. Allar has now thrown costly interceptions to lose the last 3 big game losses. Oregon, Notre Dame and Oregon.
Our offense sucks out loud. It’s actually impressive that we can look so inept and out of sync almost every single game.
Oh wait. Maybe we we’re waiting for an actual big game to open up our playbook. Looking forward to Drew splitting out wide against UCLA next week.
I figured Franklin would continue to democratize the RB carried - to our detriment.
Allen is obviously the superior back. But Franklin continues to give Singleton equal billing. He is useless in “real games”…might be good for a few change of pace carries and a safety valve on a few passing downs. This ain’t high school anymore. But Franklin coaches with a “everyone gets a trophy” approach.
Allen is obviously the superior back. But Franklin continues to give Singleton equal billing. He is useless in “real games”…might be good for a few change of pace carries and a safety valve on a few passing downs. This ain’t high school anymore. But Franklin coaches with a “everyone gets a trophy” approach.
we held Oregon to 3 points at the half despite and offense that had what, 40 yards of offense?
when this happens across multiple OCs, it isn’t the OCs fault. Franklin sets the tone and the OCs do his bidding
It is the character, preparedness and mindset of the Penn State teams in big games under Franklin and it is not going to get better. CJF is going to be the all time leader in losses against ranked teams in NCAA history, and I think he has gotten the players not to believe in themselves. If you want to be mediocre, then you go to Penn State. If you want to excel, you go somewhere else. It seems that Franklin coached teams like to be “just okay” as the TV commercial puts it.
In this new era, Franklin is losing the transfer portal battle. If Oregon could not have rebuilt their OL and DL instantly through the portal with fairly high quality players, I think the outcome of the game would have been different. Franklin just does not get the high quality portal players that other highly ranked teams do. O$U, Oregon, etc. are killing it and Penn State is getting killed.
In this new era, Franklin is losing the transfer portal battle. If Oregon could not have rebuilt their OL and DL instantly through the portal with fairly high quality players, I think the outcome of the game would have been different. Franklin just does not get the high quality portal players that other highly ranked teams do. O$U, Oregon, etc. are killing it and Penn State is getting killed.
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Fair...but this was his offense as Kansas. Of CJF or AK refuse to adapt to the talent they have why is any recruit coming here?
CJF has hired and fired so many OCs that I now question....how can they all stink? There is only one common piece, well actually i just remember two....CJF and Danny O'Brien. Zurich was supposed to be the best and well that didn't work. Something changes when successful OCs join this staff...and the same old stories remain. DO is supposedly great but is Allar better this year? I am sure the AKB members will state the coaches can't win the game....so why do people say CJF was out-coached?
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Maybe I’m making too much out of this, but Franklin often says in pre-game interviews (on the field) that he has “a ton of respect” for the opposing coach and team. Does he coach scared and without a killer instinct? Does he coach concerned? Do the players pick up on that? They’re still kids and are easily influenced.
By contrast, lanning pre-game said that he loved the whiteout environment and fed off of it. Then he talked about his team. He exuded confidence.
By contrast, lanning pre-game said that he loved the whiteout environment and fed off of it. Then he talked about his team. He exuded confidence.
Penn State is 4-21 against AP top-10 opponents, including 1-18 against top-10 Big Ten teams. No coach should survive that.
Beat Ohio State. It's no longer a narrative just reality
Beat Ohio State. It's no longer a narrative just reality
The one thing I don’t understand is with the best RB tandem in the country why did they not run the ball more to start the game? I don’t get the first quarter play calling at all.
I don't understand how Allen isn't RB1 yet and getting 20-25 touches with Singleton used in the slot
Because we couldn't block for it. The Oline, minus 4 games last year really has never been good under Franklin. You knew Oregon was not going to let the run game get going after the yards we put up last year. What's more surprising, is we couldn't scheme guys open in the passing game considering Oregons clear commitment to stopping the run.
It's disappointing but not surprising AK think his scheme is so great that he doesn't need to adapt
James Franklin roasted after Penn State loses another big game
Penn State lost another game against an AP Top 10 team and coach James Franklin, known for his big-game failings, is catching heat for it.www.saturdaydownsouth.com
The others are funny (and not wrong) but this is the killer:
I got HOUSED all week and here comes Midniter swooping in and not getting housed. It’s not FAIR!
Franklin is a good man, a great ambassador for the university, and overall a top 10 CFB coach when factoring in all of the HC responsibilities. Say what you want about his contract negotiations over the years, but he used his leverage to force the administration to spend on facilities, coaches, etc.
After 11 years of running the program, the hallmarks of the PSU program are this: good to great defenses, no identity on offense, beating less talented teams with regularity and routinely getting beat in the trenches against top 5-10 opponents in painstaking close losses. Every year, it's the same thing. We hear about the strides the OL and QB have made in the offseason, only to watch the OL struggle to dominate against cupcake opponents in Weeks 1-3. Optimistic fans tell themselves there's nothing to worry about, as the OC is simply running vanilla plays in these games so the team can play 3d chess against the big boys. Regardless of how many OCs and position coaches we cycle through, the results remain the same. The senior versions of Allar/Clifford don't appear much better than the sophomore versions.
This year, Franklin has everything he needs to compete for a national championship. Two of the highest paid coordinators in football. NIL money flowing for the retention of players. An experienced QB, OL, defensive front and backfield, with the LB group being the weak link on paper. The greatest environment in the history of college football, according to Franklin himself. Preseason hype about this being the best team in the country.
What happens against an Oregon squad starting a 1st year Sophomore QB and replacing 9 starters to the NFL? Complete ineptitude on offense for 3 quarters. Fans booing and chanting "Fire Franklin." Ohio State expects to win games like these. PSU has to rely on "lucky breaks," to which we haven't had any of those lucky breaks since 2016. 10-2 with losses to Oregon and Ohio State and no BT title game is a failure on all metrics unless the team runs the table in the playoffs.
At this point, I'm of the mindset that I'm ambivalent about whether or not Franklin stays or goes. It could end up worse for PSU - Riley, Swinney, Kelly, Norvell, Venables aren't exactly lighting the CFB world on fire. But I have little confidence moving forward that Franklin can actually coach and develop players to a level needed to win big games and truly compete for a NC.
After 11 years of running the program, the hallmarks of the PSU program are this: good to great defenses, no identity on offense, beating less talented teams with regularity and routinely getting beat in the trenches against top 5-10 opponents in painstaking close losses. Every year, it's the same thing. We hear about the strides the OL and QB have made in the offseason, only to watch the OL struggle to dominate against cupcake opponents in Weeks 1-3. Optimistic fans tell themselves there's nothing to worry about, as the OC is simply running vanilla plays in these games so the team can play 3d chess against the big boys. Regardless of how many OCs and position coaches we cycle through, the results remain the same. The senior versions of Allar/Clifford don't appear much better than the sophomore versions.
This year, Franklin has everything he needs to compete for a national championship. Two of the highest paid coordinators in football. NIL money flowing for the retention of players. An experienced QB, OL, defensive front and backfield, with the LB group being the weak link on paper. The greatest environment in the history of college football, according to Franklin himself. Preseason hype about this being the best team in the country.
What happens against an Oregon squad starting a 1st year Sophomore QB and replacing 9 starters to the NFL? Complete ineptitude on offense for 3 quarters. Fans booing and chanting "Fire Franklin." Ohio State expects to win games like these. PSU has to rely on "lucky breaks," to which we haven't had any of those lucky breaks since 2016. 10-2 with losses to Oregon and Ohio State and no BT title game is a failure on all metrics unless the team runs the table in the playoffs.
At this point, I'm of the mindset that I'm ambivalent about whether or not Franklin stays or goes. It could end up worse for PSU - Riley, Swinney, Kelly, Norvell, Venables aren't exactly lighting the CFB world on fire. But I have little confidence moving forward that Franklin can actually coach and develop players to a level needed to win big games and truly compete for a NC.
Replace AK with CJF and your post is equally correct.