This is the truth. I still love Franklin, but Jesus, if you felt the defense was gassed, then go for 2! Yeah, we miss the 2 and there is a fan riot. Doesn’t mean it was not the right thing to do. At that point in regulation Allar is playing with house money in his head and probably does not crap himself under pressure like he did in OT.
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This is the truth. I still love Franklin, but Jesus, if you felt the defense was gassed, then go for 2! Yeah, we miss the 2 and there is a fan riot. Doesn’t mean it was not the right thing to do. At that point in regulation Allar is playing with house money in his head and probably does not crap himself under pressure like he did in OT.
I was pro 2 based on the gassed D. I also wouldn’t have rioted, I would have embraced the big nuts.
Then Kraft should start making him want out. Take away everything you can. Make his life miserable. And unhappy donors need to hold their checks.
Kraft still has to pay for the stadium, so the donors can't become too unhappy. Don't know how much misery can be inflicted on Franklin that $8.5 million a year won't provide some solace.
Agree completely....I was yelling at the TV "Go for 2....go for 2!"
But Franklin is all about the analytics.
If he was "all about analytics", he would have - definitely - gone for two after the TD that set the score at 17-9.
What IS he "all about"? Who knows?
Analytics typically say you play for OT at home--go for two on the road.
Just depends on what "chart" he's using.
For the record, I wouldn't have gone for two there. I was shocked Oregon didn't after their TD in the first OT
To be clear, the chances of Kraft (or, more importantly, the Penn State Board of trustees) moving on from HCJF is - in LionJim terms:
(100 raised to the 0 power + i squared) %
For those not mathematically inclined, that equation means "It ain't gonna' happen".
In fact, if HCJF had walked in on Monday morning and demanded a 50% raise, lest he would walk, he would have had the 50% raise by Tuesday.
Going for 2 was tempting. But I would not have gone for it either. So I am not the one to second-guess kicking the extra point to get the overtime. I think when Oregon hit the big play in the second overtime, our coaches felt the need to start off with something big on their first play. That play call was too reactionary in my opinion. Feed 13 until they stop him.
Hence the current problem. Penn State is led by incompetents since 2011.To be clear, the chances of Kraft (or, more importantly, the Penn State Board of trustees) moving on from HCJF is - in LionJim terms:
(100 raised to the 0 power + i squared) %
For those not mathematically inclined, that equation means "It ain't gonna' happen".
In fact, if HCJF had walked in on Monday morning and demanded a 50% raise, lest he would walk, he would have had the 50% raise by Tuesday.
Could you imagine if we even did something like this? It would be like dropping a nuclear bomb on a commanding officer to take him out. It would incinerate the program at the same time. The rest of the Big Ten would be thrilled.
Sabotage what? Are we Purdue? Willing to wait another decade for decent win?
Good point. He went for 2 in the exact same situation last year vs Oregon - TD in the 4th to make it an 8 point game. He even got a little testy when people questioned it. He said the analytics showed that you go for 2 there. I guess the analytics changed.
My point wasn’t to argue whether to take Franklin out or not. But if you really want to take him out, there are more direct and less destructive ways to do it. In my experience, when you have to relieve a high level employee of their responsibilities, you need to do it in the least disruptive way possible. Minimize the drama and impact on the team as much as possible. That way you can build or rebuild what you have left in the fastest possible way under the new leadership.
I am not in the fire Franklin immediately camp. But I see and hear and understand the other side of this position right now. So I’m not here to argue this point. I am only here to say using that strategy to take him out could be destructive. Have to be careful how it’s done.
I think I did miss your earlier post. Sorry about that. How do you feel about Kraft as an AD?
Defense was gassed.
Offense had looked absolutely putrid for 3 1/2 quarters.
Strike while the iron is hot, because you just knew the offense would revert back to the norm. And unfortunately in the 2nd OT, they did.
College OT is set up for fairly easy scoring. The D played well all night, but most of Oregons drives were more than 25 yards. I didn't like the odds in OT.
College OT favors a mobile QB. It's basically middle school recess football, just run around until you can find someone open.
He was wrong to do it then and he would have been wrong to do it in that spot Saturday night.
As for doing it at 17-16? I'll never fault a coach for going for the win in that situation. If they had attempted it and missed, then fine, you played for the win and you got stopped. But I also won't knock you for electing to try for OT and taking your chances there. The opportunities were there for the defense in the 1st OT and they didn't get the job done.
I see. So I’m stupid for asking your thoughts on Kraft and you shrug your shoulders.
Got it.
It's the rest of your drivel, that comprises the definition. I gave you an answer and you had to push.
Did his response make mention of anyone defecating or passing gas… he is such an a**hole! Worthy of the ignore function, try it!
What do you think PSU's chances are of converting a two point play - last week against Oregon? If you can answer that, then you know whether you would want him to go for 2, and on which occasions.
But you can't address the decision before first answering that question. Obviously
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Dude, legitimate question. You are quite the keyboard warrior. Everyone here admires you.
I think game flow was such that they would have had a better chance of getting it on the 17-16 TD. I'm not a proponent at all of going for 2 after a score like the 17-9 TD. You're trying to build that emotional momentum and if you miss that 2, you take a lot of air out of the balloon. I can understand it a little more in NFL because the XP there is no guarantee and a pro offense might be better at getting 2 yards than 'snap, hold, kick' efficiency (especially with the onslaught of blocked FGs lately). College game, the XP is basically a layup and you want that crowd to keep cheering to go 17-10 and the build swells. Will I argue with the analytics faithful who pound the podium saying you have to go for 2 at 17-9? No, because people can have different feelings. USC made it work against Illinois. Doesn't mean it can work everywhere.What do you think PSU's chances are of converting a two point play - last week against Oregon? If you can answer that, then you know whether you would want him to go for 2, and on which occasions.
But you can't address the decision before first answering that question. Obviously
The shoulder shrug demonstrated my indifference to your question and obvious attempt to troll.