Big10 bent Nebraska over and spanked them....
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Nobody cares about pac12.
Once the games start, (and playing safely) no one will notice the conferences that Do Not Play,
especially west coast conferences.
No play, no tv money, no influence,
no fun, no interest, no power
Bigger is not Better in moving west,
when ultimate sacrifices overwhelm the seeming benefits.
Also, b12 in moving west
(as proposed here, hypothetically) could vote to remove/sacrifice newest members WVU/TCU, possibly-
maybe to take USC/UCLA, for example.
when ultimate sacrifices overwhelm the seeming benefits.
Also, b12 in moving west
(as proposed here, hypothetically) could vote to remove/sacrifice newest members WVU/TCU, possibly-
maybe to take USC/UCLA, for example.
That would not be good. TCU would at least have a shot at PAC 12 with USC and UCLA gone.
Yep,
be careful what these folks on this msg board Keeps thumping, so to speak .
Be careful what you wish for, VanHalen.
Sometimes, you just have to stay on your/our "swim lane".
Haaaa, no...No
Here in DC Metro area,
Lobbying is a career path in which professionals attempt to influence Congressional Votes.
Big 12 knows WV has to make the most of this. I don't think they would be ones of the schools removed.
There is no choice between the B1G and SEC. They have to make the most of this chance.
SEC doesn't consider WV a possible target. NC schools, VA schools, Oklahoma and Kansas.
B1G only takes AAU schools or schools who can easily get back into the AAU
Adding any school should be based on if it helps WVU.
USC is one of the few schools who do regardless.of location. Could be on the Moon.
There is no choice between the B1G and SEC. They have to make the most of this chance.
SEC doesn't consider WV a possible target. NC schools, VA schools, Oklahoma and Kansas.
B1G only takes AAU schools or schools who can easily get back into the AAU
Adding any school should be based on if it helps WVU.
USC is one of the few schools who do regardless.of location. Could be on the Moon.
Are you sure?
Are you sure,
that adding an west coast team is absolutely good for WVU?
Are you sure,
that adding a school or west coast program to b12 is going to help WVU (if we factor in all the logistics associated with this pipe dream)?
Some folks seem so positive, and do not see the damages associated with pipe dreaming.
USC is a National School
The Gov of Texas has a daughter who attended USC.
Actually USC is one of the few schools I have seen the Gov open up the mansion to.
National Schools and Regional Schools
WVU for them get be who they want to be needs to a National School.
The Gov of Texas has a daughter who attended USC.
Actually USC is one of the few schools I have seen the Gov open up the mansion to.
National Schools and Regional Schools
WVU for them get be who they want to be needs to a National School.
Be careful what you wish for.
B12 could wax TCU/WVU,
and replace with USC/UCLA -
in a move west.
There is Zero reason for a west coast school to move to Midwest Conference - Zero,
Especially during a global PANDEMIC.
I'm sure Marines studied logistics.
Are we back on this again.
WVU should feel like they could get dropped every year. Because in reality their position in a Power Conference isn't for sure.
But WV deserves a school in their state in a Power Conference.
You have zero reasoning for anything you say.
You continue to repeat disproven things
Gets to a point where you can't handle reality and attempt to push your own..
That is exactly what you are doing here.
In most debates here, you are moving toward exchanging insults, when the subj poster is frustrated.
My angle is always
for betterment of WVU, no matter what.
West Virginia will stay as far east as practical, unless your proposal includes WVU hardly ever commuting to West Coast.
I do think the more you Lobby this topic,
The more you truly believe your conviction, but joining a West Coast conference is not in the cards for WVU, during a global PANDEMIC or anytime.
Foolish, impractical, short sided, selfish.
Especially selfish to the athletes that are involved- SELFISH
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Just saying what is going on.
You are posting that it isn't happening and it makes zero sense.
I have wasted my time to show you where you are wrong but it comes to a point where we are going in circles.
I will give a final overview of everything
1. Any school not in the SEC and B1G is looking at their options.
2. Coronavirus is just a bump on the road of College Athletics. Will be quickly forgotten in a few years.
3. The problems in the PAC remain no matter what. The deemphasis of football in particular is a major topic. Does Stanford want to continue as a FBS school let alone a P5 school.
4. USC feels like they carry that entire conference. Recruits and Televisions. But they don't receive their fair share in revenue. They make the same as Oregon State.
USC bringing slabs of beef to the table.
Oregon Stats bringing a half eaten tomato
5. The structure of the Big 12 works for schools like USC
Ones who don't want to be independent and want to keep their revenue
For WVU...
Using this platform to improve their position.
This is practical. This is the only.choice they have.
No school in this country has the power to create their perfect conference.
What you have to do.is make use with what you have and attempt to improve it until you see a better opportunity.
Like with anything in life.
Hard to say that USC won't improve this conference.
Everything I have seen so far is irrelevant to the discussion.
Well actually you might have
made a point or 2, here VanHalen,
but why didn't you address my earlier recommendation to add Hawaii?
?If we expanding footprint, the why not Waikiki, and Honolulu?
I guess Texas AD,
didn't consider Hawaii.
Ps, none of your discussion makes any legitimate sense to West Virginia,
unless WVU departs b12.
Wink
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If there was anything to this theory, it would be being discussed nationally,
(ESPN, Fox1, ESPNU especially, Texas Ch, Longhorn Network)
(No discussion except here,
and misguided)
TVs are important
What if we remove the power in the conference and give even more to the school.
So teams can negotiate all their TV rights unlike just some.
What if we remove the power in the conference and give even more to the school.
So teams can negotiate all their TV rights unlike just some.
?How come - there is Zero discussion, nationally about "your" proposal on
TV, if TVs are so important?
No ESPN discussion
No ESPNU discussion
No Longhorn Network discussion, No Fox discussion, local discussion
No discussion on your proposal, except You.
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The average Division I athletics program sponsors 18 varsity sports. In fact, only one university at the Division I FBS level sponsored more varsity sports than Stanford prior to this change, and that institution, PSU, does so with a significantly larger budget. Many of our peers at the Power Five level are supported by budgets that are much larger than ours while operating far fewer sports. Stanford’s more than 850 varsity student-athletes today represent 12% of undergraduate population, a far higher percentage than exists at nearly all of their peers institutions.
Stanford projected a budget deficit of more than $12 million for 2021 even before the COVID-19 pandemic. The athletic department said that revised its revised estimate of a $25 million deficit is a best-case scenario. Stanford said it would have needed $200 million to continue operating those sports at a nationally competitive varsity level.
Penn State's athletic department is in a far different position, having generated a $4.2 million surplus during the 2018-19 fiscal year. That left the department with a $12.3 million reserve entering 2019.
Penn State likely will use those reserves to help alleviate the projected deficits it will face this fiscal year. And without football, Penn State's athletic budget becomes significantly less stable.
While Stanford Athletics has many tremendously generous donors, their support simply could not cover the escalating costs of ensuring excellence across the board in our 36-sport model.
The average Division I athletics program sponsors 18 varsity sports. In fact, only one university at the Division I FBS level sponsored more varsity sports than Stanford prior to this change, and that institution, PSU, does so with a significantly larger budget. Many of our peers at the Power Five level are supported by budgets that are much larger than ours while operating far fewer sports. Stanford’s more than 850 varsity student-athletes today represent 12% of undergraduate population, a far higher percentage than exists at nearly all of their peers institutions.
Stanford projected a budget deficit of more than $12 million for 2021 even before the COVID-19 pandemic. The athletic department said that revised its revised estimate of a $25 million deficit is a best-case scenario. Stanford said it would have needed $200 million to continue operating those sports at a nationally competitive varsity level.
Penn State's athletic department is in a far different position, having generated a $4.2 million surplus during the 2018-19 fiscal year. That left the department with a $12.3 million reserve entering 2019.
Penn State likely will use those reserves to help alleviate the projected deficits it will face this fiscal year. And without football, Penn State's athletic budget becomes significantly less stable.
While Stanford Athletics has many tremendously generous donors, their support simply could not cover the escalating costs of ensuring excellence across the board in our 36-sport model.
- Of the 11 sports being discontinued, six (lightweight rowing, men’s rowing, co-ed and women’s sailing, squash, synchronized swimming) are not NCAA-sponsored championship sports.
- All 11 sports being discontinued are sponsored by less than 22% of the more than 350 Division I institutions, and nine (men’s and women’s fencing, lightweight rowing, men’s rowing, co-ed and women’s sailing, squash, synchronized swimming, men’s volleyball) are sponsored by less than 9%.
- There are only two other Division I field hockey programs and one fencing program on the West Coast, and there are no other lightweight rowing, sailing, squash or synchronized swimming programs on the West Coast.