Really You think Nebraska isn't a contender every year in the West.. Nebraska has been every year we have been in the conference..
This year you can say 4 teams are contenders to win the West.
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Really You think Nebraska isn't a contender every year in the West.. Nebraska has been every year we have been in the conference..
This year you can say 4 teams are contenders to win the West.
I could give them contender status, but with a new QB they more than likely won't be favored. Everyone is trying to catch Wisconsin now at this point in the West.
Again I'll call Nebraska a legacy program. None of the other real blue bloods would count winning their conference division a relevant accomplishment.
Only Wisconsin been better than everyone else in the West after that comes Nebraska..
Sure Hawkeyes fans will disagree but Nebraska has had a better winning pct in conference and overall since 2011... Yea Iowa had a top 10 finish but have also had worse records during that span.
A true blue blood like Ohio state is thinking about how to go deep in the college playoff. Not praying that they might beat Iowa this year. The blue blood programs all have some elite quality to them (coaching, recruiting, player development etc). What makes Nebraska elite?
The winner of LSU and Bama usually go to the college playoff. The winner of Nebraska and Iowa one goes to outback bowl and the other to music city bowl. Hardly the same thing.Really LSU and Bama.
Is Michigan a blue blood? Winning their conference division would be a real accomplishment for them considering they've never done it.
I think blue bloods can come and go a little bit. But I'd call their brand and because of their head coach at this point a blue blood. Right now in the Big Ten it's Ohio State and Michigan.
Iowa isn't in their division. They have to beat out Michigan, PSU and MSU before they can even think about a football playoff.
Okay maybe that's Nebraska's problem they don't understand what blue blood means. We aren't listing the good teams in college football, I'm talking about the very elite programs. Penn State is a good program, but not blue blood. If that's the case let's have a list of 25 blue bloods.Ya let's leave Penn St out.
Can another Nebraska fan at least agree with me on this?
You're problem is you don't know what the hell a blue blood is in the first place if you think Penn St isn't a blue blood you don't have a clue.
All-Time winning Pct
All-time wins
All time National titles
All time conference titles
BCS or Major bowl games played in
All Americans
Etc etc.
Oh, we have enough negativists on here that I'm sure you could find someone to agree with you. This board is not exactly known for being a fount of optimism and positive feelings. But I feel pretty confident in my assessment when I've noted an unbiased panel of 12 college football writers who agree that we are a blue blood program. And that's just one-I've seen others that put us in that category too.
Huh? You don't even make sense. We beat Penn State in all of those categories. Facts are facts. You're entitled to your own opinion, but you aren't entitled to your own facts. In what twisted world of logic does one team beat another in every major category of success but not rank above them or even equal to them in a degree of objective ranking?
You're losing your argument by dumb posts like this...
Stupid is what stupid says...
almost the entire reason we got into the BIG was on the basis of our blue blood status in football
it sure as hell wasn't on the basis of our basketball program or academics both of which might be the worst in the conference
luckily Harvey and TO convinced the BIG that the football program's past and promise of future improvement was worth extending the invite ... I hope our football program improves enough in the coming years to get us out of the conference's "welfare baby" program and we become a meaningful contributor to this conference in at least one major sport
it sure as hell wasn't on the basis of our basketball program or academics both of which might be the worst in the conference
luckily Harvey and TO convinced the BIG that the football program's past and promise of future improvement was worth extending the invite ... I hope our football program improves enough in the coming years to get us out of the conference's "welfare baby" program and we become a meaningful contributor to this conference in at least one major sport
Color me with red rosy sunglasses but I actually think the current strategy of paying a coach 3 million and then making sure that the assistant are paid handsomely may work. Nebraska more than any other school requires assistants who can coach but more importantly are great recruiters. At Nebraska I think investing in the assistants is better off than say paying a coach an exorbitant amount of money with mediocre assistants. I think the Riley approach can work.
Here's some numbers on the statistics above(first number is Nebraska, second is Penn State):
All-Time winning Pct .699 .686
All-time wins 889 867
All time National titles 5 2
All time conference titles 5(since 1993) 4(since 1993)
BCS or Major bowl games played in 33 22
All Americans 54 39
For conference titles, I count from 1993 because that was when Penn State joined the Big Ten and they were independent before that-so that is the only time period when the two teams can be compared. For Major bowl games, I am using current New Years Six games(Cotton, Fiesta, Orange, Peach, Rose, Sugar).
As I said, Nebraska beats out Penn State in every category. But I guess it's obvious according to what I can only describe as "Iowa fan logic"-Nebraska isn't even close to being as good of a program as Penn State.
All that effort for one moron, that the rest of the fan base looks at this at says
.Thanks for the post and doing the hard work for me.Winking
Yeah, I realize somebody with that idiotic of a post probably isn't going to let facts get in the way of their nonsensical logic, but I was curious so I decided to look it up anyway and just get the numbers out there to prove to him I was right about us beating them in all the listed categories.All that effort for one moron, that the rest of the fan base looks at this at says
Thanks for the post and doing the hard work for me.Winking
You should have stopped there. That's an argument you could kind of make. This one(If Penn St is a blue blood. Then Nebraska isn't even close.) is the one you are conveniently ignoring now.
Actually, does Iowa have more disadvantages, than Wisconsin, Minnesota and Nebraska.
Three Iowa Division I football programs, though one is FCS.
Nebraska is a modern Blue Blood, who has witnessed better decades.
Minnesota is a once proud program, before modern football began in the 1961. Last conference share was 1967.
Wisconsin is the best program in the Big Ten East right now.
We shall see how 2017 pans out, as another season of College Football kicks off in September.
peace
Both BD & TO made sure that their assistant coaches were paid well. The seems to be MR plan also. I think it is important to look at the total paid to assistants and see how that stacks up against other schools.
good points ..
I wonder if your status as a blue blood begins to wane when a significant portion of your fan base would trade your programs past in order for elite status in the present
this would signify to me that the majority of the fan base was too young to remember the glory days .. clearly we are a ways from that occurring but fans in their teens and 20s might have never seen Nebraska in the years where they were considered elite
the vast majority of Minnesota fans for example have no idea they were once considered an elite program
I think a good question is how much does a school spend on football not just its head coach. I don't have the numbers to prove it but it seems to me we have stepped up big time over the past couple year in spending on all asst. football coaches, recruiting, promotion ect. But hey I could be wrong.
I think there is certainly a shelf life, and it probably expires with the last generation that saw Nebraska as nationally relevant. Though 2001 certainly didn't end well, people who were old enough to appreciate football then may still consider Nebraska a blue blood. More realistically, I think the idea dies with those who witnessed the run in the 90s. If Nebraska does nothing significant by, say, 2070, I think the the blue blood status is dead, and probably for good. I think most would agree that it has already seriously diminished, and what keeps it alive at all are our resources and tradition. That tradition is only going to be relevant so much longer.
So you think 23 years removed from 3 out of 4 NCs takes us out of the running for Blue Blood status? Or you think that is what CC was saying?
I think he meant 2070... considering Minnesota's irrelevance and Michigan's continued relevance with 1 NC over the last 60 years or so...
No, I meant 2070
. I was giving a real conservative estimate and trying to establish when our blue blood status would be officially dead, like Minnesotta's. As I said in the post, I think that status officially and completely dies with the last living generation that witnessed the program's greatness. If Nebraska football is just as irrelevant during the next 50 years as it has been for the last 15, I don't think anyone will be defending the idea that we are a blue blood program in 2070 because our tradition will no longer be relevant. One could argue that it would expire well before that, or even has expired, but then we'll be disagreeing about the criteria for blue boodedness. I am putting all my eggs in the tradition basket and providing one measuring stick for when tradition would seem to me to entirely dead and irrelevant. But one could take issue with the criteria and the measurement . I think it's an interesting topic, and very apropo!Yeah, I might agree with 2070. 2020, no. If that was the case, Notre Dame would have already dropped from the ranks of blue bloods. Their last national championship was 29 years ago and except for one national championship game appearance after the 2011 season, they've been pretty irrelevant for awhile now.
I was just asking an honest question, because it's hard to imagine a program being relevant if they do "nothing significant" for 53 more years.
I don't really have a strong opinion on whether Nebraska is a blue blood, or when it would stop being one. I'm way more concerned about whether 18-year-old prospects still think of NU as a prime destination. I've had my doubts about that recently, although things seem to be looking up on that front.