BOO HOO 17ing HOO
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Rick Stansbury didn't win SEC Coach of the Year voted by the coaches when his team went 14-2 and won the SEC Reg season. It happens.
No, you are spot on. Coaches were pretty bitter that we landed Roberts after the Baylor tragedy and basically punished Stans for that. I thought that was pretty petty, even though I've never been a Stans fan. Didn't we win every conference road game that year? When's the last time that happened?
Undefeated on the road. Lost by 1 to UK and just a few to Bama.
The loss to Xavier in the Tourney was one of the worst State losses ever to me. I remember just being sick the rest of the weekend.
The loss to Xavier in the Tourney was one of the worst State losses ever to me. I remember just being sick the rest of the weekend.
Especially after beating them by 20 earlier that year. It did really suck just watching your whole season go right out the window in one game. Could sort of see it coming after Vandy beat us in the SECT the week before though.
But the Syracuse game still lingers as the worst ever for me.
But the Syracuse game still lingers as the worst ever for me.
Against Vandy L. Roberts hurt his ankle and we never looked the same. Xavier shot lights out from the 3 as did Butler when they knocked us out. Teams had field days behind the arc against us.
To me, the Butler loss was so much worse because it was the first round. Xavier sucked, but I was almost physically ill when we lost to Butler.
On a higher note I saw one of e greatest comebacks ever that year against Bama in Coleman. The Timmy Bowers show. That really was a special team. Too bad they couldn't do more in e post season.
Had to be more to it than just LR for the entire league of coaches to act like that. Stansbury did a good job that season- but for the entire league to not vote him as the overwhelming choice just screams a bunch of underlying issues- not just one player
But getting LR was huge- without him- we are not even a tourney team with Campbell and Morgan playing Center
I remember that and it was pretty apparent from that result that coaches around the league had little to no respect for Stans as a coach.
That Xavier team was the hottest team in the country. The weekend before our game they annihilated the #1 team in the country St. Joe's by 20 points. That St. Joe's team had POY Jameer Nelson and Delonte West and it was their first loss of the season. We were 17ed with that drawing.
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=240712603
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=240712603
I was behind the goal in the bammer student section. Was with some ladies and lets just say, after I let the slobberheads behind me have it, the walk back to the car was brisk.
Then why wasnt he? I'm not reaching at anything
As I said- I thought he should have been also. But it's hard for me to believe the league's coaches held getting LR against The Recruiter to the point of not voting for him. LR was transferring somewhere- all the Baylor guys did- why hold that against The Recruiter? It had to be more than that
Yeah, it was pretty obvious that Stans lacked a common comradery amongst league coaches. I cant remember one instance where a fellow league coach, besides Brady, even looked him in the eye on a hand shake. This is just another testament showing the incompetence we were dealing with. Stans was the last of the old school athletic dept. Having Billy Donovan openly express his respect for Ray and publicly praising his work ethic should have opened some eyes from our fan base. As for the Ole Miss kids not getting voted the 1st team? Taunting opposing fans/trolling twitter/swinging fist on the floor/ screaming uncontrollably after an and 1 up by 20/ lack of generosity and integrity....am i missing something?
Austin was a battle with one coach. The doesnt explain the whole league.
They didnt have a problem voting Cal COY- why The Recruiter?
If Mario and LR or recruiting in general were really the problem, then that is just another reason for me......
...to say 17 the SEC. EVERYONE of them mfers buy players. So, any school or fan talking that crap can go 17 themselves. 17 UK and OM in the NCAAs, Alabama in the NCG, whoever in the CWS. 17 them all. I am glad we get a fat check. But we will always be the school that isn't suppose to land players or win games. 17 them. We will do what we want anyway.
I wish Stans would have cut Retardo loose after the fight. Maybe he would still be here to continue to give the SEC the finger.
...to say 17 the SEC. EVERYONE of them mfers buy players. So, any school or fan talking that crap can go 17 themselves. 17 UK and OM in the NCAAs, Alabama in the NCG, whoever in the CWS. 17 them all. I am glad we get a fat check. But we will always be the school that isn't suppose to land players or win games. 17 them. We will do what we want anyway.
I wish Stans would have cut Retardo loose after the fight. Maybe he would still be here to continue to give the SEC the finger.
Good point Maddog
I heard from other fans too. How good of a guy Crxxm was. I would always reply with....."Yep, but he is terrible football coach."
I heard from other fans too. How good of a guy Crxxm was. I would always reply with....."Yep, but he is terrible football coach."
Richard Williams got COY twice- as did Bruce Pearl. And Pearl has slime oozing out of his pores...
Just really interesting on The Recruiter
Oh, no doubt, having respect from the coaching fraternity has little to do with whether you are a good coach or not. Croom was loved and respected and Jackie was hated so that right there tells a lot. Stans was a good coach for us for a number of year and was likely at his peak in 2004 but he, for whatever reason, just didn't connect very well with other coaches out there and I think most other coaches out there thought of him as a country bumpkin.
This is wrong
Coaches never respected Stans before Roberts and after Roberts. We were usually ranked lower in the coaches polls than we were in the AP polls. Stans never won a coach of the year because he never had the respect of his peers. Sometimes our glasses are so maroon that we can't see the truth for what it was. Stans couldn't coach a lick, and there where always whispers about his recruiting, and those were the reasons he wasn't well-liked.
It was what it was.
Coaches never respected Stans before Roberts and after Roberts. We were usually ranked lower in the coaches polls than we were in the AP polls. Stans never won a coach of the year because he never had the respect of his peers. Sometimes our glasses are so maroon that we can't see the truth for what it was. Stans couldn't coach a lick, and there where always whispers about his recruiting, and those were the reasons he wasn't well-liked.
It was what it was.
It's not Rocket Science ...
So, why didn't Joe Pa not 'like & respect' Jackie Sherrill? 'Cause he had the audacity to beat Penal State. Same with Stans.
Except for a few coaches, Stans had a habit of beating their teams. That year, he beat every West team at their place; beat Florida, Vandy and USC at their places and only lost to UK and one to Bama. He also won the title with the smallest budget in SEC.
After 14 years as HC, he only had an overall losing % against UT, UK and Florida.
So, why didn't Joe Pa not 'like & respect' Jackie Sherrill? 'Cause he had the audacity to beat Penal State. Same with Stans.
Except for a few coaches, Stans had a habit of beating their teams. That year, he beat every West team at their place; beat Florida, Vandy and USC at their places and only lost to UK and one to Bama. He also won the title with the smallest budget in SEC.
After 14 years as HC, he only had an overall losing % against UT, UK and Florida.
I see what you are saying, but I disagree. I was in school for that season and I distinctly remember that many critics were saying that we'd "lucked" into Roberts. I thought it smacked of sour grapes at the time and still do. Transfers weren't as common as they are now (at least that's how I remember it). Plus, I think USCe had been a train wreck and the coaches decided to reward Odom for bringing them out of the depths. I think it had more to do with Roberts than Stans. COY awards trend toward coaches that brought a team from awful to mediocre or good, rather than the coach of the best team in the league. I know it's the NBA, but for an example, Gregg Popovich & Phil Jackson have ZERO COY trophies combined.
Bowers became one of my favorite Bulldogs ever when he purposely had the ref take the ball back from Shelton by entering the key late. Then the guy missed it. Reminded me of when Pippen walked by Malone as he stepped up to the free throw line and said, "The mailman doesn't deliver on Sundays."
Here's the link video if you are feeling nostalgic...
Here's the link video if you are feeling nostalgic...
Budgets are overrated in basketball and beisball. Butler made the championship game with a budget half the size of ours. Basketball is simply recruiting 4-5 guys that can ball- and then 3-4 more that make good back-ups to give you minutes. Then you manage personalities and give them some X's and O's
After the John Wall lane violation in the SEC tournament final, Calipari praised Stans and even openly stumped for us to be in the tournament (to no avail). Just saying, it happened. But obviously Gottfried and Stans weren't vacationing together.
Not wanting to lock the thread but, I'll go ahead and say I think people praised Croom for three reasons...
1. He was no threat to beat them so what's the harm?
2. He was doing it "the right way" and publicly you have to praise that, even as you cheat your *** off
3. He was the first African-American coach in the SEC so it was good PR to praise him
1. He was no threat to beat them so what's the harm?
2. He was doing it "the right way" and publicly you have to praise that, even as you cheat your *** off
3. He was the first African-American coach in the SEC so it was good PR to praise him