BP = Epic FAIL

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seshomoru

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And the fishing would be so easy it would seem like they were just washing up on shore for you.

I think I'm headed down July 4th weekend, and will have camera in tow. It should be pretty god awful down there by then.
 

fishwater99

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It smells like oil and tar balls and oil are on the beach. They are hanging at the pool, bar and golf course...
 

tommyboy1520

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Can someone give me an idea about what the oil smell is like? I know it isn't the same as the stuff I put in my car, but how bad is it? Putrid and unbearable or just a mild odor you notice in the air? I still haven't cancelled my vacation yet, and am considering still going if for no other reason than to spend my vacation money where it's needed. It's not much, but it's something. We don't actually spend much time on the beach as the kids would rather stay in the pool all day anyway. I guess my biggest concern at this point now is how bad is the smell?
 

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comes on right before the video runs.

Having the Fed/State gov't take over is not the solution, contrarty to popular belief the gov't isn't really good at fixing anything. The gov't role should be to make sure everything is cleaned to the people's satisfactaction, not be put in charge of something with which they have no experience.
 

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...looks like this: <a target="_blank" href="http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/incident_response/STAGING/local_assets/html/Skandi_ROV1.html">Click here[/url]
 

seshomoru

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3000lbchicken said:
at least they are saving some now for their profits.
That's what has been truly pissing me off this entire time. BP's goal does not seem to be saving the Gulf of Mexico. It seems to be saving the well.
 

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[b said:
zerocooldog[/b]]comes on right before the video runs.

Having the Fed/State gov't take over is not the solution, contrarty to popular belief the gov't isn't really good at fixing anything. The gov't role should be to make sure everything is cleaned to the people's satisfactaction, not be put in charge of something with which they have no experience.
All BP cares about is rtheir bottom line and shareholders and their stock is finally tanking.I say put Jindal, Bobby Nungesser, and Anderson Cooper incharge, at least theycare about the people and the Gulf Coast. The oil must be stopped and sucked up before it hits the shore. BPthinks it is easier and cheaper to clean the oil once it hits the beach, they do not care about the wildlife and wetlands.
 

missouridawg

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collected oil will go towards creating a fund for coastal preservation. Nice try though.</p>

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seshomoru

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missouridawg said:
collected oil will go towards creating a fund for coastal preservation. Nice try though.</p>

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Please forgive me if I don't believe what BP says at this point.

And that still doesn't make up for the fact that they seem to be trying to save the well, not our Gulf.
 

missouridawg

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that people think our government would be better at fixing this leak than BP. Our government has no experience in fixing a disaster like this. Putting our government in charge would be even more of a disaster.

You can't just "fix" something like this. You have to mitigate it's effects and BP is doing that with the caps. Once the relief wells reach the reservoir, this should all end. I know it's not the timeline everyone wants, but that's the reality.
 

saltybulldog

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it is mild and annoying. And yes, I can confirm the freaking tar balls and lovely views of oil booms glowing in the waves.
 

fishwater99

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[b said:
missouridawg[/b]]that people think our government would be better at fixing this leak than BP. Our government has no experience in fixing a disaster like this. Putting our government in charge would be even more of a disaster.

You can't just "fix" something like this. You have to mitigate it's effects and BP is doing that with the caps. Once the relief wells reach the reservoir, this should all end. I know it's not the timeline everyone wants, but that's the reality.
BP does not care about our coast and wetlands, they want to do it on the cheap, otherwise there would be supertankers out there sucking this oil up from the first week. BP is all about profits and their image, not the US GulfCoast and it'speople. Do you work for BP?
 

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But probably not for long... they'll be shut down in the gulf for a while (maybe forever). They've obviously been grossly negligent when it came to safety on this rig. And they'll lose billions upon billions of dollars in the process of fixing this mess. But it's BP's well and they should cap it.

I was unaware that BP was actually leading the cleanup efforts... my bad if that was stated in your links.
 

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booms in place smells like absolute arse my friend said its getting into the pass and it's only gonna get worse they also saw a oil covered dolphin wash ashore
 

seshomoru

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missouridawg said:
for capping the well to BP. Feel free to message me.
17 you.

Our Gulf is going to be a desert if the relief well doesn't work or gets delayed. It may already be. BP caused this ****. They have a record of being far more reckless with safety, completely ignored glaring warning signs, killed 11 people, and have done the bare minimum to protect what's ours from the pollution poisoning our Gulf. Seize their assets, make this well off limits for any future drilling, get another company with a better record down there to fix this ****.
 

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At least at this point. IF they were holding a fix in their back pocket and said as of tomorrow, no more oil is leaking...the damage is done and then some. I cannot say how long lasting the effects will be but after about day 30, the additional oil is like running over an already dead dog. Obviously the continual flow is going to allow the damage to travel further in all directions, but locally its past the point of f|_|cked.

My new favorite, is all the editorials telling locals to contact their home insurer to determine if their policy covers oil damage in the event a storm floods your home with water AND OIL! I can save everyone the time and energy...your policy doesnt cover it and lets all hope we dont have to chase BP for these claims.
 

missouridawg

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was along the lines of "How do you think the spill will affect the seafood markets and shrimp prices?"

Yes, it probably wasn't the best answer for the question... but it wasn't nearly as bad as everyone has made it out to be.

I'm not defending BP either, just trying to use some perspective. BP has made this bed and they'll be laying in it for a long while. But the knee jerk reactions are sometimes laughable. Our media is a 17'n joke.
 

seshomoru

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How many #!!$!#% months have to pass before being outright pissed as hell is no longer considered knee jerk?
 

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.....is that you refuse to see the divergent agendas at play.

BP will be fined $4300 per barrel spilled. Do the math. The only question is how much spilled, and that will be argued in court. Grasp that and you'll understand everything they've done. Actual 'fixing' or 'cleaning' is only a priority to them as it relates to the former. That's why all the 'dispersant' has been used, despite that we have no idea of the ecological effects. It hides the true size of the spill.

For example, the cap right now is nowhere near capacity. They just don't have the capacity to handle more flow on the surface. But it would still be better to flow it to the surface and burn it. But BP isn't doing that. Why? Because then we would know the true spill rate. So they're letting it flow at the bottom, despite that that's ecologically worse. Government would not have that conflict of interest.
 

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missouridawg[/b] wrote:[/b]
I'm not defending BP either, just trying to use some perspective. BP has made this bed and they'll be laying in it for a long while. But the knee jerk reactions are sometimes laughable. Our media is a 17'n joke.
Everyone seems to think they are qualified as marine biologists, chem/petro engineers, etc. b/c they can look at a picture on the internet and believe that they have better solutions than theprivatelyemployed experts. If anything the media is killing tourism worse than the spill by making it out to be muchmore than it is regarding coastal issues.

And can we startcalling these "wetlands" what they are, swamps.
 

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missouridawg]I was unaware that BP was actually leading the cleanup efforts... my bad if that was stated in your links.


BP is and has beenin charge of the cleanup from day one. Obama is now saying he has been in charge since day one, which is clearly a lie.
 

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Obviously, BP is neglgent but their negligence was allowed by MMS.

More important, Obama should have declared this a national emergency from the start. He should have demanded that other oil companies contribute their resources. Even if he doesn't have the legal power to order something, the Bully Pulpit has great power. He could also demand that vacumming and skimming be immediately conducted with all available resources, without an exhuaustive cost-benefit analysis of each method and resouce. Just do it, I'm saying. If a method or resource gets up any significant oil, get that resource on the job right away The Super Tanker issue is also technically on BP, but again the administration can use the great power it has to motivate significant action.

This is not anti-Obama; I sure didn't vote for his opponent. But it is disgusting beyond expression that Katrina's massive blunders are being followed by some kind of fear of blame and sheer inertia that keeps the Federal Government, two Presidents in a row, both of them smarter than most of us, from agressive action in situations whose horror is obvious to just about every one but the ones who make the decisions and set the agenda.

Everybody in the Whilte House needs to forget about the price Jimmy Carter paid for owning the Iranian Crisis. Just be the damn President is what I'm saying. Damn the torpedos and full spped ahead. That's America; not, let's watch and study this **** till more cows come home.
 
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