Braves Thread: Temper my enthusiasm
- Thread starter Oxford Godfrey
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That's the stupidest comparison ever.
First of all, you can't take away a World Series championship. They also played in 3 other World Series.
Secondly, unlike an SEC West title, winning your division in baseball guarantees you a trip to the postseason. Compare Stansbury to somebody that can't win, the Chicago Cubs.
First of all, you can't take away a World Series championship. They also played in 3 other World Series.
Secondly, unlike an SEC West title, winning your division in baseball guarantees you a trip to the postseason. Compare Stansbury to somebody that can't win, the Chicago Cubs.
How could you buy that one of the greatest managers in the history of baseball is the same as a mediocre basketball coach.
Bobby Cox achievements:
Won 14 consecutive division championships, something unheard of in professional sports
5th manager on all time wins list
1 world championship
3 world series appearances
Stans achievements:
1 time SEC champion
2 time SEC tournament champion
6 NCAA tournament appearances (0 times past the second round)
Bobby Cox achievements:
Won 14 consecutive division championships, something unheard of in professional sports
5th manager on all time wins list
1 world championship
3 world series appearances
Stans achievements:
1 time SEC champion
2 time SEC tournament champion
6 NCAA tournament appearances (0 times past the second round)
Kind of like being an MSU football fan, or until this year, being a Saints fan.
Pencil in Cubbies, and until recently, Red Sox.
Hope springs eternal.
Pencil in Cubbies, and until recently, Red Sox.
Hope springs eternal.
Oxford Godfrey said:
I don't remember another Braves team with every part as solid as this one. The only people not hitting well this season are normally our best hitter so they'll be solid in the second half of the season. Bullpen is solid. Solid Closer. Solid starting pitching, and maybe the best bench in the league, with several people who can play almost anywhere. It just hit me all of a sudden the other day, this team is the real deal.
particularly against aces. they've been blanked recently by Halladay and Santana. Prado is the only one hitting well right now.
I think Chipper is doing about the best he can right now. Ditto on Glaus. But Mac is going to hit. He's picked it up lately. Everyone is freaking out about Esco, but I expect a big second half from him. Dude has too much talent to not figure it out. Plus, he was the NL's best hitter with 2 outs & RISP last season. Diaz/Hinske will be an effective LF platoon. Lastly, we get our best hitter back in JHey after the AS Break. Honestly, this is as solid a team as I can remember us having. You also have to figure Jordan Schafer might be ready at some point in the second half. I'm not expecting much from McLouth due to his concussion. But if he surprises me and comes back as even an average player, this is going to be a really deep team capable of putting serious runs on the board. And oh by the way, the 2 pitchers you named in your post might be the 2 best pitchers in the game right now. Halladay is certainly the best, at the very least. He shuts out pretty much everyone, so you're whining about nothing when you're whining about Halladay shutting someone out.
i agree that improvement from some of those is to be expected. agree about Diaz/Hinske and Heyward and BMac. But CF still looks below average, and Esco doesn't currently look like he's going to rebound, though no one seems to know what has caused the drastic drop in production. Glaus looks like he'll be below average for the position for the rest of the year, May is looking like a fluke. So that looks like below average at SS, 1B, and CF, and average at 3B (maybe above, only due to poor peformance there throughout the league) and LF, and above average at C and 2B, with Heyward being either average or above average for high-producing RFs.
maybe i should clarify. that lineup is suitable for the regular season, but my concerns come from having to play an ace twice in a 5 or 7 game series. those may be the two best pitchers in the game (Santana has not been so far this season), but that's who you have to beat in the postseason. that's a decent lineup, but one that looks like its only good enough to get to the postseason, not to win there. and i don't see a good spot to upgrade, as i don't think there are any CFs available that are any good (and Schafer hasn't been producing in the minors this year yet), ditto for SS, and a LF acquisition would break up the platoon.
i think that we can't get Philly or NY in the first round is a big advantage for us.
maybe i should clarify. that lineup is suitable for the regular season, but my concerns come from having to play an ace twice in a 5 or 7 game series. those may be the two best pitchers in the game (Santana has not been so far this season), but that's who you have to beat in the postseason. that's a decent lineup, but one that looks like its only good enough to get to the postseason, not to win there. and i don't see a good spot to upgrade, as i don't think there are any CFs available that are any good (and Schafer hasn't been producing in the minors this year yet), ditto for SS, and a LF acquisition would break up the platoon.
i think that we can't get Philly or NY in the first round is a big advantage for us.