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[.S&C.]

Fat *** in the michigan state hat floats the idea that cuban healthcare is better than American healthcare.

@JasonSpear

Would assume you wouldn't need to understand anything more about him.

 

[Supreme Lord Z]

Fat *** in the michigan state hat floats the idea that cuban healthcare is better than American healthcare.

@JasonSpear

Would assume you wouldn't need to understand anything more about him.

It's actually much broader than that. It demonstrates clearly that in the rest of the entire industrialized world (and in some 3rd world) health care is a basic human right and that people do not have to worry about it.

But here we do it for profit and demonize the rest of the world as "socialist" in order to scare stupid people into maintaining such a foolish system of health care. Because there is money to be made.

 

[.S&C.]

Cuban healthcare is a joke. Fat *** conspiracy theorist is a bigger joke.

The issue is in fact broad, but pointing to disastrous 3rd world **** storms as evidence we're doing it wrong is not the way to go. We are a country of 320 million people. It's not as simple as the extreme left tries to paint it , much like gun control .

 

[Supreme Lord Z]

Cuban healthcare is a joke. Fat *** conspiracy theorist is a bigger joke.

The issue is in fact broad, but pointing to disastrous 3rd world **** storms as evidence we're doing it wrong is not the way to go. We are a country of 320 million people. It's not as simple as the extreme left tries to paint it , much like gun control .

The Cuban thing was to point out the absurdity of 9/11 responders not being able to get healthcare but could easily do so in Cuba.

If you could set aside your hate long enough you would observe that in every other 1st world country on earth healthcare is not an issue. If you get cancer or need a heart transplant you get that done because there is no profit motive. What needs to be done for your health gets done because that is a basic fundamental right humans should have in a civilized country.

But in the US it is all about profit. Dollars. Greed. Massive, massive profits. And they are scared shitless we will see past the demonization and realize universal healthcare is something none of us should be fighting over.

 

[pikespeak1]

This is an incredibly stupid post and ironic post considering what fuels this fire. The worst thing about social media is we get to hear what the least thoughtful most wildly biased members of our society can scrabble together in their limited skulls as an analysis of complicated tragedy. It must be nearly impossible for them to understand anything past their arms reach. The cops do not deserve this but neither did Sterling deserve what he got.

Freedom without justice is merely privilege granted by the privileged.

What the hell are you talking about?

 

[pikespeak1]

No but pointing to America's first President that is not a white male as the reason racial unrest erupts in this country with its long history of prejudice is just a departure from anything that will be found in the solution.

Well he does perpetuate the lie that systematic racism exists in the United States.

 

[pikespeak1]

Well I just did so---yes you can--- it just gives people an opportunity to distract away from the prejudice that they would like to foment in others.

You may not agree but saying that these tragic events were caused by Obama is far more egregious than my or anyones grammatical errors. That is simply stupid considering our history for starters.

It was caused by the blm movement and fueled by Obamallah Akbar and the rest of the race hustlers.

 

[Bill Derington]

The Cuban thing was to point out the absurdity of 9/11 responders not being able to get healthcare but could easily do so in Cuba.

If you could set aside your hate long enough you would observe that in every other 1st world country on earth healthcare is not an issue. If you get cancer or need a heart transplant you get that done because there is no profit motive. What needs to be done for your health gets done because that is a basic fundamental right humans should have in a civilized country.

But in the US it is all about profit. Dollars. Greed. Massive, massive profits. And they are scared shitless we will see past the demonization and realize universal healthcare is something none of us should be fighting over.

I haven't seen the documentary, but I'd be curious to know which first responders in NYC at the time of 9/11 didn't have health insurance?

Do you work for free Z?

 

[pikespeak1]

That bit of logic is kinda wasted.

Pretending that it's not his fault simply because he's black is not logical. I for one am tired of him getting a free pass because of his pigmentation.

 

[.S&C.]

****, it may be haha.


That's what pisses me off sometimes. It's ALLLLLLLLL about the money. That's it. **** what someone actually NEEDS. It's all about what does the insurance agree to pay for and how much so as to not cost them too much money. **** if someone dies because of something they can't control. If they can't afford the health insurance, well, tough ****. I hate the American healthcare system.

Can't wait until our healthcare resembles Cuba

 

[pikespeak1]

Yes, cause Healthcare was so awesome before Obama ever took office.

And if you work in Healthcare, well, that just explains why institution after institution is clamoring for consultants who know that they hell they are doing. Can't get paid enough. LOL

Yeah it was pretty awesome. It was the best healthcare in the world. Obamallah Akbar destroyed it and people like you who bought the lie helped. Thanks.

 

[pikespeak1]

OK to hate him, that doesn't change information. Just watch the information and process it, sort it out for yourself, see if your perspective is adjusted. Perfectly fine to go on hating MM as that is not the point.

That whole documentary is full of lies. You seem smart enough to see past that propaganda.

 

[.S&C.]

That whole documentary is full of lies. You seem smart enough to see past that propaganda.

The follow up to the movie that basically dismembered the whole thing was great. The hospitals that fat *** and castro wouldn't show are where the real story is. One is pictured above.

 

[pikespeak1]

It's actually much broader than that. It demonstrates clearly that in the rest of the entire industrialized world (and in some 3rd world) health care is a basic human right and that people do not have to worry about it.

But here we do it for profit and demonize the rest of the world as "socialist" in order to scare stupid people into maintaining such a foolish system of health care. Because there is money to be made.

Can you name one industry where government provides a better product for a cheaper price than the private sector? Before ObamallahAkbarCare America had the highest quality healthcare at the cheapest price of anywhere in the world.

 

[pikespeak1]

****, it may be haha.


That's what pisses me off sometimes. It's ALLLLLLLLL about the money. That's it. **** what someone actually NEEDS. It's all about what does the insurance agree to pay for and how much so as to not cost them too much money. **** if someone dies because of something they can't control. If they can't afford the health insurance, well, tough ****. I hate the American healthcare system.

Health insurance is a scam. So is ObamallahAkbarCare. So is Universal Health Care. All three are about funneling poor people's money to the people in control.

 

[.S&C.]

Can you name one industry where government provides a better product for a cheaper price than the private sector? Before ObamallahAkbarCare America had the highest quality healthcare at the cheapest price of anywhere in the world.

No you see, we must have a utopia, where men aren't influenced by greed and money. Where healthcare providers work for free, give free service, and maintain the same level of quality.

Half the people who ***** about this would be the most corrupt anywhere if they had the opportunity.

 

[Ukbrassowtipin]

The best doctors in the world live in the US, that's not even debatable. But for some reason people think doctors should be robots that slave.

Again, a big part of the Healthcare problem in the US is how people perceive things. They believe they can just smoke, eat ****, not exercise, and then all of a sudden when their body is broken down they just show up to the doctor thinking he is a magician to fix them. If people would regular go to their doctor, and have a preventive mind set they'd do a lot better.

Poors don't want to do that, they just pile in the ER every chance they get like it's a walk in clinic.

Not only that Obamacare advocates talk about the big bad insurance companies, but miss the whole fact that Obama care aka the Non affordable care act removed the free market. Now insurance companies can just set a sky high deductible bc what are ya gonna do, there is no competition that could offer you a lower one. It also eliminated people's better options for care. Oh you need a heart surgery and the best possible success rate is at this clinic in Cleveland....too bad, you gotta stay in KY with that insurance, gotta "spread the wealth" and keep it in state.

 

[slick rick.ksr]

The best doctors in the world live in the US, that's not even debatable. But for some reason people think doctors should be robots that slave.

Again, a big part of the Healthcare problem in the US is how people perceive things. They believe they can just smoke, eat ****, not exercise, and then all of a sudden when their body is broken down they just show up to the doctor thinking he is a magician to fix them. If people would regular go to their doctor, and have a preventive mind set they'd do a lot better.

Poors don't want to do that, they just pile in the ER every chance they get like it's a walk in clinic.

Not only that Obamacare advocates talk about the big bad insurance companies, but miss the whole fact that Obama care aka the Non affordable care act removed the free market. Now insurance companies can just set a sky high deductible bc what are ya gonna do, there is no competition that could offer you a lower one. It also eliminated people's better options for care. Oh you need a heart surgery and the best possible success rate is at this clinic in Cleveland....too bad, you gotta stay in KY with that insurance, gotta "spread the wealth" and keep it in state.

One of my employees had a type of small cell lymphoma that was pretty aggressive with a low survival rate. The insurance gave him his choice of the in network clinics with the highest survival. Believe it or not, the university of Nebraska-Omaha was higher rated than Johns Hopkins for that type of cancer. That's where he went and he is alive today. A friend just beat cancer by going to MD Anderson in Houston. The insurance company didn't keep him from going there.

 

[WKBlu]

The Cuban thing was to point out the absurdity of 9/11 responders not being able to get healthcare but could easily do so in Cuba.

If you could set aside your hate long enough you would observe that in every other 1st world country on earth healthcare is not an issue. If you get cancer or need a heart transplant you get that done because there is no profit motive. What needs to be done for your health gets done because that is a basic fundamental right humans should have in a civilized country.

But in the US it is all about profit. Dollars. Greed. Massive, massive profits. And they are scared shitless we will see past the demonization and realize universal healthcare is something none of us should be fighting over.

I hereby nominate this: dumbest Paddock post of the year...

 

[Supreme Lord Z]

You guys are right. What am I thinking. A system that bankrupts families if your dad or mom gets cancer or you are forced to choose between keeping your home or getting a liver transplant is far superior to what EVERY OTHER advanced 1st world country on earth does, universally cover all their people so the profit motive is taken out of healthcare and decisions for your health are made by doctors determining what you need rather than accountants figuring out what they are willing to pay.

This is such a simple issue yet the propaganda of "socialized" medicine keeps you neanderthals from realizing health decisions should not be based upon profit and dollar signs. Our citizens' healthcare is not something we should have people scheming to profit over.

Universal healthcare for all our people based upon what healthcare a person needs made by doctors examining you and then providing a diagnosis and treatment plan. No incentive to give you drugs you do not need. No incentive to deny you healthcare you desperately need. No incentive to make money off your misfortune. Simply treat you as you need to be treated.

And yet here we are. Fully grown functioning thinking people arguing against that. Because of a socialist boogieman. Sad but entirely unsurprising.

 

[Free_Salato_Blue]

How did this go from Baton Rouge officers being shot?

But frankly you can travel to Thailand and back for healthcare cheaper.

 

[Supreme Lord Z]

We go where the conversation takes us.

It kills me that people are so blinded by propaganda that they defend an indefensible position. That the entire civilized world does things one way, but for pure greed and nothing more, we allow our healthcare to be profited upon by pure unabashed greed while the opposition is silenced by socialist boogieman scare tactics is amazing. Just amazing how easily people are controlled with misinformation.

The entire world gets it, except us. Everybody, but not us. Fundamentally everyone else knows you don't want to have people trying to make money off of sick people. Except us.

 

[pikespeak1]

You guys are right. What am I thinking. A system that bankrupts families if your dad or mom gets cancer or you are forced to choose between keeping your home or getting a liver transplant is far superior to what EVERY OTHER advanced 1st world country on earth does, universally cover all their people so the profit motive is taken out of healthcare and decisions for your health are made by doctors determining what you need rather than accountants figuring out what they are willing to pay.

This is such a simple issue yet the propaganda of "socialized" medicine keeps you neanderthals from realizing health decisions should not be based upon profit and dollar signs. Our citizens' healthcare is not something we should have people scheming to profit over.

Universal healthcare for all our people based upon what healthcare a person needs made by doctors examining you and then providing a diagnosis and treatment plan. No incentive to give you drugs you do not need. No incentive to deny you healthcare you desperately need. No incentive to make money off your misfortune. Simply treat you as you need to be treated.

And yet here we are. Fully grown functioning thinking people arguing against that. Because of a socialist boogieman. Sad but entirely unsurprising.

You full of it. My grandfather beat cancer twice. He never went bankrupt.

 

[pikespeak1]

We go where the conversation takes us.

It kills me that people are so blinded by propaganda

Basically everything you post on the subject is propaganda. SMH

 

[mustnotsleepnow]

You full of it. My grandfather beat cancer twice. He never went bankrupt.

Anecdotal is always universal.

 

[Supreme Lord Z]

I treat patients every day that have have a stroke, brain injury, long term injury that will require months and months of rehab. Often times the insurance will cut them off at a point well short of where they need simply because they deem it no longer necessary, i.e. They don't wanna pay for it. **** that. I'm treating the person. I see their progress. I see their potential. Who the **** is some dipshit sitting behind a desk one to decide what this person's life is gonna be like just because they put a stop to their coverage and they'll no longer receive rehab for some situation or injury that was never their fault to begin with? It's horseshit.

That's what they did to my dad. He wasn't even able to stand up after a stroke when they yanked his rehabilitation/physical therapy because he was only entitled to two weeks after his hospital stay. His condition didn't matter. Their little chart said what he got and that was it.

 

[Bill Derington]

Anecdotal is always universal.

Its all anecdotal, the docmentary shown above is anecdotal.

 

[Atrain7732]

Yes, if this keeps up I think a lot in the middle will turn on BLM and move towards Trump (or not voting at all).

Increasingly I find myself in this position. I have been in the middle for most of my life and try to vote my conscience. More and more I get sick of hearing about this BLM nonsense and how I suffer from white privilege and was born a bigot simply b/c I am white. It is at a boiling point now and if the Dem's don't watch it they are going to lose an entire group of people who vote in large numbers and pay attention to what is going on.

To be fair, I am not a Trump fan. I find him pretty detestable honestly and you will never convince me that he gives a hoot about anyone but himself. Just the fact that his positions have changed pretty much whenever the political climate shifts is all the evidence that I need. Almost daily I waver as to which direction I am going to go. Have recently been thinking about a protest vote for the Libertarian candidate Johnson. But, that is just wasting my vote. So, that is where it stands for me and from what I hear when I talk to my friends, a bunch of them are in the same position.

Not sure if I could stomach it, but I may have to hold my breath and vote Trump. Which even saying that is progress since just a few weeks ago I would have laughed at that premise.

We are living in scary times. I fear for this country in many ways, and I do not think this election will do anything to cure things, no matter who is elected. Heard on the news the other day and think it is very true--No matter which side wins, there will be half of the population who will not consider the next president legitimate in any way. Gone are the days when everyone pulls together in support of our President after an election. Division is the new norm.

 

[Double Tay]

Increasingly I find myself in this position. I have been in the middle for most of my life and try to vote my conscience. More and more I get sick of hearing about this BLM nonsense and how I suffer from white privilege and was born a bigot simply b/c I am white. It is at a boiling point now and if the Dem's don't watch it they are going to lose an entire group of people who vote in large numbers and pay attention to what is going on.

To be fair, I am not a Trump fan. I find him pretty detestable honestly and you will never convince me that he gives a hoot about anyone but himself. Just the fact that his positions have changed pretty much whenever the political climate shifts is all the evidence that I need. Almost daily I waver as to which direction I am going to go. Have recently been thinking about a protest vote for the Libertarian candidate Johnson. But, that is just wasting my vote. So, that is where it stands for me and from what I hear when I talk to my friends, a bunch of them are in the same position.

Not sure if I could stomach it, but I may have to hold my breath and vote Trump. Which even saying that is progress since just a few weeks ago I would have laughed at that premise.

We are living in scary times. I fear for this country in many ways, and I do not think this election will do anything to cure things, no matter who is elected. Heard on the news the other day and think it is very true--No matter which side wins, there will be half of the population who will not consider the next president legitimate in any way. Gone are the days when everyone pulls together in support of our President after an election. Division is the new norm.

Great post. Agree completely.

 

[Double Tay]

The only thing involving Michael Moore I've ever found interesting....http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ed-court-documents-wife-22-years-divorce.html