Even though I think it's mental in Briscoe's case, that doesn't mean he won't revert back to being a poor free throw shooter next season. Hopefully, he builds on what he did in March and will shoot a respectable clip next season, but there are no guarantees. Sometimes it takes just one poor shooting night to plant the seeds of doubt in a player's mind and sends them on another season long slump.
Briscoe will shine
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I agree that you don't need google to be a hater.
"Briscoe's shot is forever broken."
What did Cal say? Is that what you think or is that what you hope?
That you Forde? Zip?
Well, I definitely understand the negativity regarding Briscoe that is coming from some UK fans. I will admit, like many of you, I cringed when he shot the ball from beyond 3pt range and from the free throw line.
I also can understand the thinking of those who say Briscoe's issues were mostly mental. It definitely makes sense to me. His form is good. His shooting was good in high school. It makes sense that this is a mental issue. I hope that theory is correct. He's got to improve his shooting for his own sake and UK's. If he doesn't improve his shooting, it will hurt his draft stock even more. There will be no amount of spin that will explain it away if he keeps shooting poorly for another season.
Now, think of the positives for a returning Briscoe...
1. He gives UK a nearly double digit returning scorer. Without Briscoe, our leading returning scorer would be Willis (7.7pts) and then Hawkins (2.3pts).
2. Briscoe was 2nd in assists on the team and also 3rd in rebounding, and 2nd in steals. Those are stats which can't be laughed off.
3. Briscoe brings invaluable experience, having played in every significant road venue in the SEC, having played in and helped win the SEC tourney, and also having played in the Big Dance.
4. Briscoe, despite his poor shooting from the field this last season, was elite in other areas, such as his ability to finish in the lane, his toughness and strength, his ball handling and passing, and his rebounding ability as a guard.
If Briscoe continues to improve in his areas of strength, which should be expected, and he also works on his shot and becomes more consistent (which is surely going to be his focus this summer), I think everyone will be pleased with his sophomore season and the contribution he will make. In fact, I think we're all going to be singing his praises early in the year while our freshman backcourt get their feet wet and adjust to college ball. Briscoe's toughness and leadership will be critical.
I also can understand the thinking of those who say Briscoe's issues were mostly mental. It definitely makes sense to me. His form is good. His shooting was good in high school. It makes sense that this is a mental issue. I hope that theory is correct. He's got to improve his shooting for his own sake and UK's. If he doesn't improve his shooting, it will hurt his draft stock even more. There will be no amount of spin that will explain it away if he keeps shooting poorly for another season.
Now, think of the positives for a returning Briscoe...
1. He gives UK a nearly double digit returning scorer. Without Briscoe, our leading returning scorer would be Willis (7.7pts) and then Hawkins (2.3pts).
2. Briscoe was 2nd in assists on the team and also 3rd in rebounding, and 2nd in steals. Those are stats which can't be laughed off.
3. Briscoe brings invaluable experience, having played in every significant road venue in the SEC, having played in and helped win the SEC tourney, and also having played in the Big Dance.
4. Briscoe, despite his poor shooting from the field this last season, was elite in other areas, such as his ability to finish in the lane, his toughness and strength, his ball handling and passing, and his rebounding ability as a guard.
If Briscoe continues to improve in his areas of strength, which should be expected, and he also works on his shot and becomes more consistent (which is surely going to be his focus this summer), I think everyone will be pleased with his sophomore season and the contribution he will make. In fact, I think we're all going to be singing his praises early in the year while our freshman backcourt get their feet wet and adjust to college ball. Briscoe's toughness and leadership will be critical.
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Lol guys here so used to reading pure garbage, that when actual intelligent bball posts are written they think : Oh no! stop reading scouting reports/ford/DX, etc.
No. i actually have a pair of eyesball and know the game. Not run off UK blindness.
Seriously, when he has another poor shooting season, show your face. Its a lock to happen, so i just ask to face the music. Same for everyone else blaming mental issues and ignoring his broken J.
In fairness to the OP, the Timberwolves really worked on KAT's walk all year. This really improved his overall game.
Congrats OP, the T'wolves organization owe it all to you. You da real MVP!
Yeah I know he's a pg. But he will still be playing off ball a lot this year.
OP said he will be playing his natural position. He will some...possibly more than he did last year. But I expect him to spend most of the season in a similar role as last year.
Which is fine with me. The alternative would probably be Fox underperforming.
Obviously I could be wrong. But I expect Cal to hand Fox the keys and give him every opportunity to take ownership of the team.
Again, you hope for the worst. You crave the chance to say, "I told you so."
And any basketball knowledge you do possess is overshadowed by your delusions of grandeur.
But I get it. You know the game better than anyone, Cal included.
You're the worst kind of poster. You aren't stupid, but you aren't self-aware enough to realize how dumb you sound. Completely irrational.
All this " pro" talk regarding Briscoe, after the NBA turned him down & he had to come springing back to us after he wanted to be a OAD since HS. Was projected undrafted in most mocks.
Slow your roll.
Slow your roll.
Hope you're right about not being worse. I just don't see what evidence anyone has to say his jumper isn't as bad as it was. He has yet to prove he can shoot the ball on the D1 level and until he does, becoming an NBA pg probably isn't in his future. If the shot didn't matter, he'd already be gone.
Put some work in on his shooting this summer and he will be golden, he has everything else down[thumb2]
Why do you see players have a really good 3 point % one year and drop significantly the next year ? It happens all the time , did they lose the ability to shoot or do you expect players to always be the same without fluctuation . An example everyone can relate to was Darius Miller , he shot like 45% his Jr year and most everybody expected that or better the next year but he dropped to 37.5% .
Players fluctuate and we only have one sample year for Briscoe and freshman are the most susceptible to poor shooting . Factors like knowing what to expect and playing without learning as much will help him relax , that's what I'm hoping and pulling for .
Players fluctuate and we only have one sample year for Briscoe and freshman are the most susceptible to poor shooting . Factors like knowing what to expect and playing without learning as much will help him relax , that's what I'm hoping and pulling for .
For everybody getting all technical, what's the chances he was just a little nervous playing in front of 24,000 and national audiences? I'm hoping that was the case and he started to turn the corner towards the end of the year when he showed durastic improvement. I think he's gonna surprise a lot of people this year and be damn good.
Wait and see approach I guess. One thing is for sure, as bad as he was and his NBA feedback concerning his shooting should cause him to put a ton of work in on it. It's really all he's missing, but man oh man, he sure is missing it.
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I've considered this as well and think it's why you can't really expect HS and all star game stats of a player to be superimposed on their stat sheet at a D1 school like UK. Same goes for jucos like Mulder. Mechanically it's the same, but the mind controls the body.
I heard Cal say that most of the feedback he had received was concerning his shooting. On the other hand, I heard Briscoes dad saying he had shot it well so who knows.
Well the only downside to that thinking is how did he do so well before he came to Kentucky and then become a terrible shooter. In Lee's case, he never had a decent shot at the free throw line nor did he have much that he even showed from the floor in 3 years. Call it mental, stage fright, or whatever, it can be overcome, even Cal said he shot better in the tryouts then he did last season and I know he didn't have to do much to show that improvement, lol. But IF, Briscoe could improve in both of those areas, his rebounding, defense, and ability to drive the lane last year was big for us. I think he overcomes his problem but then I am always hopeful that players can improve.
Cal did say on the news that Briscoe had shot the ball better for the pros but we also know he didn't have to do too much to get that improvement since his shooting was dismal last year.
He shot 74 percent from the free throw line the last 6 games of the season including 6 for 6 in the ncaa tourney. Very similar number to his hs ft percentage
Will you be back on here if Briscoe has a good shooting year? Or will you crawl off and be like the rest of the negative posters who waits in the shadows when we lose or have a bad game?
No, he's playing center again, has been for years(year-not really, I m totally making fun of your op. FINALLY,
So we're already on a post of fox underperforming? Dude, go bury your head in your yard, if you have one, then ask, they'll likely be happy to do it, to have one of your kids/cousins drive the tractor over your sorry ***. If you're kid free, I have a hard time believing even the most desperate of women would be involved with you, kindly ask your neighbors, assuming they don't shoot on site at your sorry ***, to do the job. Please send an advanced letter to let us know when to celebrate.
If you are already hating on next year's team, SUCK IT.
If you are already hating on next year's team, SUCK IT.
If you have really been around sports long enough you are aware of the yips.
They have killed careers in many sports.
@JasonSpear beat me to it but I believe this is/was much of his problem.
Yeah, you're a legend in your own mind. The problem is you're a dipshit in everybody else's.
Well he didn't really do "that well" before KY as far as shooting the ball. Low 70's is not a great FT% for a D1 PG who has the ball in their hands on every possession. And shooting in low 30's from 3 is ok, but you have to remember that's high school, shooting drills, and all star and pickup game stats. His jump shot mechanics are not good as someone stated earlier and got bashed but it is true. Just saying, people should lower their expectations when it comes to his shooting. With that being said, I do feel as if he will improve this season. I think his shooting ceiling at UK will end up being more along the lines of Marquis Teague type stats.
Briscoe had a much better feel as pg in H.S as a passer than Monk and it wasn't even close hence why Briscoe was the top of in his class and Monk sg. There is zero evidence to back up what you're saying when you compare big against H.S talent
Because Monk is a explosive athlete with great feel. He should be the secondary playmaker to Fox, due to a combo of skills/tools that Briscoe simply doesnt possess.[/QUOTE]
Because Monk is a explosive athlete with great feel. He should be the secondary playmaker to Fox, due to a combo of skills/tools that Briscoe simply doesnt possess.[/QUOTE]
Briscoe is going to shine at a new position -- non shooting guard. JK - I pray the kid improves .
These guys never sniffed a 70+% at the free throw line while Briscoe has had only last year in his career of shooting less then that. I think he will improve.
Never claimed it was broken. But it's statistically abysmal according to his demonstrated performance on the D1 level at UK. For most fans, that's the performance that matters.
Miller started the year off in a slump his senior year.something like 0-19 or 20. From that point on he shot right at the same percentage from the previous season.
This was due more from a slump than fluctuation
Doesn't matter , I knew it was coming and therefor it was a fluctuation . Slumps factor into fluctuation , we argued about his final % and I was dead on it . I didn't call out any of the posters who were bloodthirsty and waiting to call me out had I been wrong . I could have slammed you all and didn't but you're not going to pretend you were right minus a slump , you were wrong and always will be about that 37.5% .
None of it is mental, it's all his form. His form changed from high school to college. On his FT shooting one of his arms is almost completely in front of his face and vision. Nothing mental about that, just terrible form.