Brutal schedule for Michigan

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After they play Rutgers, their next five opponents are Nebraska, Minnesota, Indiana, Michigan State, and Purdue.
They only play two ranked teams...Ohio State and Pedd State.
Did Harbaugh make up this murderers' row ?
Complaint should be with OOC schedule - B10 schedule is representative.
 

Colbert17!

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Complaint should be with OOC schedule - B10 schedule is representative.
Toughest crossover is Minnesota??? Throw in their putrid OOC schedule and it's pretty obvious the B1G 10 is trying to give them a route to the playoffs.
 
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Michigan's OOC is pathetic. Florida State played LSU to start season. East Carolina and UNLV. Really? Just garbage.
 
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MiamiWolv

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After they play Rutgers, their next five opponents are Nebraska, Minnesota, Indiana, Michigan State, and Purdue.
They only play two ranked teams...Ohio State and Pedd State.
Did Harbaugh make up this murderers' row ?
Is it Michigans fault that the league is in such shape that only two other teams are ranked?

Non-con is a joke. Next year they have Texas though

There is a real chance for Rutgers to finish in upper half of league this year.
 

NickRU714

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The B1G conf scheduling usually takes care of both Mich and OSU. They usually do not play 2 or 3 games (on paper) in a row which could result in potential losses.

Michigan ends with PSU, Maryland and OSU - 3 of the top 4 teams in the East.

OSU plays Maryland, Purdue, Wisconsin and PSU in October. Plus Michigan to end the season.

Who are all these great Big Ten teams that UM and OSU are ducking?
 

NickRU714

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Is it Michigans fault that the league is in such shape that only two other teams are ranked?

Non-con is a joke. Next year they have Texas though

There is a real chance for Rutgers to finish in upper half of league this year.

“OSU and UM don’t play any other good teams.”

“Okay. The Big Ten will invite USC and Oregon.”

“Whoa! Unfair. Now Rutgers has to play more good teams.”
 

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Michigan ends with PSU, Maryland and OSU - 3 of the top 4 teams in the East.

OSU plays Maryland, Purdue, Wisconsin and PSU in October. Plus Michigan to end the season.

Who are all these great Big Ten teams that UM and OSU are ducking?
I didn’t say they duck anyone, they have to play their division foes. If you take a longer look at the scheduling over say 4 or 5 years, they typically do not get scheduling against what would be highly ranked teams over consecutive weeks. OSU’s Oct schedule is not terribly daunting. I don’t consider MD top tier, Purdue and Wisconsin don’t look that strong thus far this year.
 
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NickRU714

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I didn’t say they duck anyone, they have to play their division foes. If you take a longer look at the scheduling over say 4 or 5 years, they typically do not get scheduling against what would be highly ranked teams over consecutive weeks. OSU’s Oct schedule is not terribly daunting. I don’t consider MD top tier, Purdue and Wisconsin don’t look that strong thus far this year.

So then who should they play other than OSU/PSU/UM?

What other teams are consistently ranked?
Since Wisconsin doesn’t count anymore.

Does that mean Rutgers isn’t being screwed by getting Wisconsin this year? Since they aren’t that impressive?
 

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Why would a top 5 team from the B1G or SEC schedule tough OOC when a) their conference schedule is tough enough, and b) they can have a max of 1 loss total to have a chance at the playoff?
 
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ivan brunetti

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We are counting on Rutgers ending up ranked in December.

If Michigan ends up 11-1, that will hurt our chances of making the playoff vs an 11-1 PAC team or ND. Which is fair.
 

GoodOl'Rutgers

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The B1G conf scheduling usually takes care of both Mich and OSU. They usually do not play 2 or 3 games (on paper) in a row which could result in potential losses.
I am convinced this is why they re-jigger the system used to schedule every so often. If they stuck with a scheduling system then a harder schedule might pop up for one or both of the "owners" of the Big Ten. Cannot have that.. so.. yeah.. time to reconfigure.
 
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koleszar

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Is it Michigans fault that the league is in such shape that only two other teams are ranked?

Non-con is a joke. Next year they have Texas though

There is a real chance for Rutgers to finish in upper half of league this year.
Did Iowa jump conferences? Did I miss a realignment thread? Big schedule makers gave Rutgers the top two in the West, Wisconsin and Iowa. They gave Michigan- Purdue, Nebraska and Minnesota. It's so obvious that the B1G is trying to protect one of its upper echelon teams with a light cross over schedule.
 

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Gotta love how this is our 10th season in the B1G and Syracuse, who is a member of the ACC, has played Purdue as many times as we have during that time (twice). Oh, and we won both games when we did play them.
 

NickRU714

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Didn't Purdue win the Big Ten West last year?
Wisconsin finish bottom tier and fire their coach?

I'm confused how people are assigning these levels of difficulty.
 
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ivan brunetti

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Did Iowa jump conferences? Did I miss a realignment thread? Big schedule makers gave Rutgers the top two in the West, Wisconsin and Iowa. They gave Michigan- Purdue, Nebraska and Minnesota. It's so obvious that the B1G is trying to protect one of its upper echelon teams with a light cross over schedule.

That is a pretty dumb conclusion.

Purdue won the West in 2022, Minny was tied for second, and Nebraska came in 4th.

Rutgers has Northwestern (last), Wisconsin (3rd) and Iowa (tied for second).

So it is 1, 2, & 4 vs 2, 3, & 5.
 

BoogieKnight

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I don’t care if Purdue won the West division one year.

Where would you rather play this year? At West Lafayette or at Madison or Iowa City?
 

ivan brunetti

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I don’t care if Purdue won the West division one year.

Where would you rather play this year? At West Lafayette or at Madison or Iowa City?

lol. Big Ten schedule makers can't predict the future.

If you don't use last year's standings as a basis for scheduling, what should be used? Should Ohio State and Michigan always play Nebraska because they are the only blueblood in the West?
 

BoogieKnight

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lol. Big Ten schedule makers can't predict the future.

If you don't use last year's standings as a basis for scheduling, what should be used? Should Ohio State and Michigan always play Nebraska because they are the only blueblood in the West?
Don’t play stupid. Camp Randall and Kinnick are notoriously tough venues to play at. Purdue is not. RU has been getting the football scheduling shaft since joining the conference. It is what it is. And with USC and UCLA being on B1G schedules for 2024, it proves these schedules don’t need to be made 4-5 years in advance as is often argued.

As far as Michigan and OSU’s crossovers, all I know is Michigan should probably play Minnesota every year because it’s a trophy game. Not sure who OSU’s biggest historical foe is from the west but let them play whomever it is annually as well. I’d actually be fine with RU playing Nebraska every year since neither school are original B1G members. MSU, PSU, NU, MD and RU are all non-charter members and I’d be fine if they were all annual opponents. Four of them already are. Add Nebby in the mix.
 
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ScarletDave

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I don’t care if Purdue won the West division one year.

Where would you rather play this year? At West Lafayette or at Madison or Iowa City?
You cant complain about the crossovers - sometimes its easier and some years it’s harder. Last year we had Iowa and Nebraska at home, both bad and we lost both. 2021 we had Illinois and Northwestern, and lost to NW.
 

BoogieKnight

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You cant complain about the crossovers - sometimes its easier and some years it’s harder. Last year we had Iowa and Nebraska at home, both bad and we lost both. 2021 we had Illinois and Northwestern, and lost to NW.
I think they should be more evenly distributed is all I’m saying. Purdue isn’t on our 2024 schedule either. That will be 11 seasons with RU only playing them twice in this east/west set up. Seems a bit uneven to me but whatever. Divisions end next year.
 
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NickRU714

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I think they should be more evenly distributed is all I’m saying. Purdue isn’t on our 2024 schedule either. That will be 11 seasons with RU only playing them twice in this east/west set up. Seems a bit uneven to me but whatever. Divisions end next year.

Wouldn't RU having a permanent crossover with Nebraska make playing Purdue even less likely?

Not sure which side you are arguing for or against now.
More distribution of teams but also more permanent crossover games?
 

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After they play Rutgers, their next five opponents are Nebraska, Minnesota, Indiana, Michigan State, and Purdue.
They only play two ranked teams...Ohio State and Pedd State.
Did Harbaugh make up this murderers' row ?
The opposite of Maryland. Easiest schedule in the conference top-to-bottom. Maybe in ALL P5 on the season. Sagarin had them at 203 going into yesterday. Here's their path to 4-0: Towson (FCS 1-3), Charlotte (1-3 only win vs SC State), UVA (0-4) and MSU (2-2 with wins over Richmond and CMU).

Also, they don't play Iowa or Wisconsin, either, so only 3 "likely" L's on their schedule (PSU, OSU and Mich).
 
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NickRU714

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Wait is Wisconsin good or not?
Some are saying they are (results don't matter).
Others are saying they aren't (were bad last year).

Same with Iowa.
They were bad last year.
And they just had like 7 yards of offense on 14 plays.
But results don't matter for them either?

Somehow the schedule makers are supposed to make sense of all this?
 

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A rotation that's been changed every 4 years since we've been in the B1G. How exactly is that a consistent rotation? O and it's going to change again next year.
Fair point about it having to change next year, but once it’s set it’s again a rotation. They aren’t adjusting the schedules every year to give the top teams the easiest schedules.

our schedule seems too hard every year because of our division. next year it may be just as hard without divisions bc of the very good teams joining
 
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BoogieKnight

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Wouldn't RU having a permanent crossover with Nebraska make playing Purdue even less likely?

Not sure which side you are arguing for or against now.
More distribution of teams but also more permanent crossover games?
I only said the Nebraska thing because the Michigan guy asked if they should play Nebraska every year because they are a blue blood.

Schedule changes in 2025. It’s a moot point now. We took our lumps. Moving forward.
 
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