BT preseeds?
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Barr won't have a huge height advantage, but he won't allow it to go 1-1 to overtime.
He wrestles hard for all 7 minutes.
But isn’t Welch getting punished? Welch now gets the #2 guy in the country in the quarters
Unfortunately yes but I love seeing guys who sit punished. Needs to be cleaned up in like Haines case cause everyone sat vs him. But I want to see big regular season matches.
I went to Iowa's stats on TrackWrestling.
Gabe has a 15-5 record with a 5-3 record against Big10 opponents.
I am confident he will advance to NCAAs and am guessing he can make the podium even way underweight.
It all depends on whether he can use his quickness effectively.
Gabe skillwise will be ok, physically he will be in trouble. I think anything lower than a 15 seed at nationals will have him getting manhandled Thursday night. Can he be top 10 at bigs to get a bid? Its a tall ask.
Not. Gonna. Happen. Give him credit, but he's not an All-American at 197 lbs.
The coaches agreed on this, how can this possibly be? Were the coaches votes based on criteria, where Carl’s voted carried an 83% allocation?
He couldn’t AA last year one weight up, a weight he was at almost all year. He got stuck by a non AA in the consos. His chances of being an AA at 197 are almost nil.
Still better than other options. No shirt to burn. Given the situation, only downside I see is possible injury at the higher weight.
All the 100% Brands haters should be ashamed. The comments on here about our wrestlers receiving the seeds they have, is deserved, is comical at best. Peterson, Kennedy, Ferrari and Keuter are getting completely railroaded.
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3 of those 4: Peterson, Ferrari and Kueter didn't wrestle enough matches. that's controllable. (ferrari and Kueter weren't even close (only 66% of the way there)). no one at 157 wrestled enough matches.
and i have no idea what you're talking about in regards to kennedy. he's the 3. argument for the 2. that's not close to being 'railroaded'
and i have no idea what you're talking about in regards to kennedy. he's the 3. argument for the 2. that's not close to being 'railroaded'
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ehhhhhh, it kind of is when you see Haines, who also got railroaded, on the #2 line.
Even if Minto was only gifted the #2 seed (which he doesn't even deserve), I'd feel way better about PK vs Minto in the semis. So yeah, unless they properly seed this weight, PK got F'n railroaded!
Levi and Minto will flip.
Minto will be the 2.
Trust The Brain
Minto will be the 2.
Trust The Brain
Supposedly the coaches came up with the formula, and we should trust "common sense"??!! Analytics not the problem per se, perhaps # basket weaving classes > # math classes while the coaches were in college?? Next time just let @Wrestleknownothing write the damn formula and the Cesspool can do his math proofing in advance. Alot of math whizzes here.
Just curious does injury play a role in some of this like I know not everytime someone dosent wrestle means there hurt or can't wrestle. like Cannon for instance sounds like he was really really hurt do they weigh that in or is all about getting enough to allocate if that makes sense?
The criteria is a complete **** s**w. The criteria used at NCAA’s has enough variation so a guy who doesn’t have a RPI ranking still gets a fair seed.
On Kennedy, think it through Willie. It’s not his seed that railroads him, it’s having Haines on the same side of the bracket.
If the coaches were able to see this before it was released, how many of them are thinking, this didn’t come out right?
This makes the decision to skip the Soldier Salute completely unnecessary.
Iowa wrestling is now Nebraska football.
Being out with an injury is treated the same as ducking. It doesn’t get factored in, except that it prevents a wrestler from having enough matches to have an RPI score. A wrestler needs 15 matches to have an RPI.
Many wrestlers who didn’t have an RPI for the BT tournament, will have an RPI for NCAA’s.
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No one is arguing with you. We were talking about him being an AA.
I’m far from an optimist but 6th isn’t particularly likely. I hope I’m not wrong.
Yes, and this is on the coaches that allow ducking.
Hard for them to complain about the seeding when they help create the mess.
Iowa will need to clean up on the consi side of the brackets.
how do you figure? Maybe Angelo but he didnt wrestle enough. Cali got better then he deserved, BK got what he deserved. Maybe you're just joking but the only people who should be embarrassed are the ones who support the Brands and have allowed this to happen.
Nebraska is willing to fire coaches to get better.... Iowa rides that **** out
Maybe if teams went to a few tournaments during the year, this would not be a problem. I do not understand how guys are so prone to getting hurt these days that they do not want to take a chance and go to a tourney or two.
same path as the 1 seed if it standsFerrari #2 nationally, #8 seed in the conference tournament.
talking about Purdue?
here's the problem in Angelo's case...
it wasn't simply that he got hurt.
from National Duals (11/16) until he got hurt was almost nine weeks. within that nine weeks, he wrestled just five bouts.
it wasn't simply that he got hurt.
from National Duals (11/16) until he got hurt was almost nine weeks. within that nine weeks, he wrestled just five bouts.
Ferrari got 1000% what he deserved im sick of seeing guys skip.. im okay with the precedent that sitting out getting punished.
is the guy who does the excel bracket still here? Always fun filling that out
is the guy who does the excel bracket still here? Always fun filling that out
Yeah, in retrospect maybe taking off an entire month between isu and WI wasn't the best decision.
But, you know, training schedule...
Several of these have already been replied to, but I'm going to anyway;
I agree, ducking should be punished somehow, but legitimate injuries should not hurt that much, unless they're still injured, which the algorithm has no way of knowing. Have you ever wrestled with a torn ACL, torn hamstring, high ankle sprain, or torn labrum? I have, a couple of those, and it's not fun. Granted, sitting isn't going to heal most of those during the season, but it can stop them from getting worse, and from cumulative wear. Look at McD. Early in the season, he was able to compensate, but match after match, it wore him down, and he just couldn't cope by the NCAA Tournament. There's no way to know if they are legitimate injuries, but I doubt Cannon or Angelo were sitting to duck or save seeds.
It's not controllable if you're injured. Angelo didn't take matches off to duck anyone. It's not his fault Tom pulled that ridiculous stunt (that accomplished nothing) at the SS. Kennedy should be the #2, but more importantly, he shouldn't have to wrestle Haines until the Finals. 2 vs. 3 is inconsiquential, but when #1 is in #2 spot, it's huge. I think you're right about the 174 bracket changing, and I hope you are.
#1 should never wrestle #2 in Quarters. Whoever loses gets screwed in NCAA seeding from where they should be
Iowa has always taken three weeks off at semester break. This year that was exacerbated by the stupid SS stunt. Tell me who he ducked, or what available matches he skipped during that nine weeks. I'm sure the SS was not his choice to sit.
PK sat vs Haines for some reason. Since PK and others sat vs Haines, Haines' opponents' scores in the algorithim was low enough that Minto passed him for seed.
So ducking Haines for a better NCAA seed cost PK at least one placement spot at BIGs as he isn't making the finals with Haines in his half which might cost him in NCAA seeding.
So ducking Haines for a better NCAA seed cost PK at least one placement spot at BIGs as he isn't making the finals with Haines in his half which might cost him in NCAA seeding.
That's gonna change Minto is up 11 points . Caliendo and blaze will change that's also within 15
Apparently Block is not within 15 and can’t challenge even though he pinned lamer
I don't think Iowa falls to sixth either, however bonus points will not come in bunches from the front side.