Look at the schedule Angelo wrestled early in the year. He wasn't ducking anyone and you know it. Then he got hurt against Welsh (who shocker he didn't duck) and missed the rest of the regular season. I know you are a Minny homer, but you're clueless if you can't tell the difference between ducking and being injured FFS.
I’m fine with setting precedent to not sit out.
Hey, I’m unhappy with the seed, but the Big Ten can’t investigate every injury to understand the legitimacy of it. Some guys are legitimately injured, but milk it for too long. I don’t believe that was Ferrari, but my point is that it gets very subjective. Either you are wrestling or not - that is the only fair way to look at it. I’m fine with the standard because I like the incentive for guys to wrestle whenever possible.
Yeah but he lost to every other big10 wrestler he faced except MSU and PUR, including 10th seeded Roberts.
Honestly I think Angelo's seed hurts the 9, 1, and 4/5 more than him because he is legit and can beat anyone at 184. Punishing guys for being hurt is my issue, not punishing guys for ducking. Maybe they should make teams do injury reports weekly to avoid punishing injuries the same as ducking? They do it in other sports. You don't have to say what the injury is, just whether medical cleared them or not. If they are cleared and sit you choose to accept the punishment, but if not cleared that shouldn't be held against them. Teams will manipulate it some, but not to the current level imo.
The original numbers showed Minto up by 17 so unless they've changed the numbers to not embarrass themselves further, Haines can't challenge.
I'm sure Rocco didn't do any cartwheels thinking he may have to face Angelo in the quarters and not in the finals.
H2H should be the deciding factor when other factors are even (we see you 174).
AbsolutelyMaybe already asked, but, if Cael doesn't, can Tom challenge to get Levi his proper seed (1)?
Tom, of course, would be doing this for the sake of fairness alone, not anything to do with PK's path.
!!!!!!Absolutely !!!!!!Maybe already asked, but, if Cael doesn't, can Tom challenge to get Levi his proper seed (1)?
Tom, of course, would be doing this for the sake of fairness alone, not anything to do with PK's path.
Where were those #s. Are you confusing Millard and Minto?
Hey man let’s not let common sense get in the way of a “good” algorithm.
But what if your personal doctor does not, or won't clear you - and yes, this was intended to trigger Kingstown
i'm not saying he ducked. i'm saying that iowa and every other team in the country should set up their schedule so this is not an issue.
What is the challenge process, who ultimately decides final seeds?Maybe already asked, but, if Cael doesn't, can Tom challenge to get Levi his proper seed (1)?
Tom, of course, would be doing this for the sake of fairness alone, not anything to do with PK's path.
I just got on the thread, and didn't read all the way through so apologies if its been mentioned. Kind of reminds me of the JoJo Smith situation a few years back.
Also, let's start wrestling some matches during the year. These guys going into the conference tourney with 12 and 2 records is silly. As far as sitting out because of an injury, I say treat it the same as ducking. You do not know if the guy can really compete if he is hurt. We have had enough coaches lie that their guy was ready for tournament time and they get a good seed, only to find out they were still h hurt and got seeded way higher than they deserved.
That seems like another way for people to lie and cheat. They can just make something up. It is easy to get a trainer to go along with what you want them to say.
I remember wrestling 50 matches one season. Sanderson won 159 over his career. That is almost 40 a year. These guys getting 20-25 matches a year seems awful soft to me. The kids on the mid level teams are getting win a lot more matches, hoping to beat someone and make a name for themselves.
If we are going to only wrestle 20 matches before a conference tourney, then the season only needs to be 2 months long. Putting your body through all that they do to only wrestle that many matches would be tough mentally and physically, obviously.
Agree with this, but the bigger issue now is that the brunt of it falls on the highest seeded guys who have wrestled all year.
These guys are too big for him to really make any noise at Nationals this year, imo.
Gabe got really good defense, besides Barr, I wouldn’t really be surprised if he beats anyone else.. think he will surprise some people at the b10.
Gabe’s gonna have wrestled the most amount of time this weekend because every match will go ot and beyond. He won’t get take downs but may never get taken down either
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if these guys decide to, and are good enough to wrestle internationally at the Senior level, don't they sometimes
Against Barr? No chance. I’m all in on Gabe but he’s giving up 20 pounds…that’s a ton…against the best in the country.
Also I think he runs into Geog second match who has brute strength and is big for 97.
I agree.
