Buckingham @ Richlands

[2027]

Richlands beat GC 63-7, with their QB going 12 of 14 for 280 yds with 5 TDs to 4 different receivers. 4 TD plays each of 40 + yds, all in the first half. This without starting RB as well sitting down to rest a sore ankle for precautionary reasons.

What do people think of two high powered offenses meeting each other next week?

 

[Trevor_Cash]

Richlands 42-21.

 

[RedPrideNation_RollPride]

35-7, Richland D playing phenomenol now and the O, well we all know what's up there.

 

[Jdphil2]

Richland's has one of the deepest collections of athletes I've ever seen in high school ball. They have exceptional coaching as well. It can be seen in the discipline of the tackling and precision of passing. The only weak link in Richland's team is their offensive line. They compensate for this lack of talent or size in ALL their skill players. Haven't seen any other of the teams they will go up against play but they only thing that will stop them is a team with a solid secondary and a ferocious pass rush. But they are a very well coached team. But when you can pull players from other schools in an area you can have a team like this.

 

[RedPrideNation_RollPride]

Richland's has one of the deepest collections of athletes I've ever seen in high school ball. They have exceptional coaching as well. It can be seen in the discipline of the tackling and precision of passing. The only weak link in Richland's team is their offensive line. They compensate for this lack of talent or size in ALL their skill players. Haven't seen any other of the teams they will go up against play but they only thing that will stop them is a team with a solid secondary and a ferocious pass rush. But they are a very well coached team. But when you can pull players from other schools in an area you can have a team like this.

Wow, compliments until the backhand at the end. Just give credit and move on.

Three things I have learned on preps about SWVA football. 1 Giles/Glenvar don't like referees or each other. 2 anybody that doesn't play in SWVA sucks. 3 apparently Richlands is soley responsible for recruiting talent to a great program.

Just my observations

 

[Jdphil2]

Not a backhand just a statement. This is a great team. Grayson's d-line was in the qbs face all night nor did they run the ball that well but then again their starting RB was out so you never know what kind of player he is statistically he is very good. As for the Recruiting this come from a player at taco bell last night saying he and the running back are from tazewell. Sorry just my observations but then again it was just My opinion.

 

[AdvocateOfMany434]

But when you can pull players from other schools in an area you can have a team like this.

So is that what they do??? #ShotsFired

 

[AdvocateOfMany434]

Three things I have learned on preps about SWVA football. 1 Giles/Glenvar don't like referees or each other. 2 anybody that doesn't play in SWVA sucks. 3 apparently Richlands is soley responsible for recruiting talent to a great program.

LMBO, Hilarious! I have only been on here for a few months and I know that first 2 are correct. Never heard 3rd one until now. LOL

FYI, I bet Giles wont say NOTHING about the way refs basically gave them the game vs. Appomattox 2 years ago. I seen it live and on film. I can say this honestly. IT WAS THE WORST REFFED GAME OF ALL MY YEARS OF WATCHING HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL!!! So refs owed them one game to be on the opposite side of the stick. With all the poor reffing in that game, it still came down to a last second 35 yard FG.

 

[Jdphil2]

I'm just going by what was said. Kids from tazewell and I believe that they have a kid from Abingdon also. Has to be a legit way of recruitment or the VHSL would be involved. I know Galax pulls kids from Alleghany NC. That came from a tazewell transfered player standing beside his mom and dad.

 

[Trevor_Cash]

They are a cadet school. Plays are able to come to Richlands from other schools to be cadets.

That's what I was told last year at least

 

[pizzzzza]

I remember when I initially saw the bracket, I knew this would be one heck of a second round game (assuming both teams won their first round, which they did last night)

I don't have a horse in this race, but I think it's going to be a VERY good game.

Buckingham has an outstanding back in Leon Ragland, and has a very impressive resume this season - including a win over 2A East #1 seed Goochland (@ Goochland), and only loss an opening game to 2A West #1 UNDEFEATED Appomattox 14-7

Richlands enters the game with just as an impressive resume, led by outstanding QB John-Luke Asbury - the only blemish being a 42-41 loss in the second game of the season @ 2A West #2 UNDEFEATED Union - the only other 'close' game was a 45-30 win over West Virginia power Bluefield - otherwise, like Buckingham, all the other games have been one-sided.

This should be one of the best games of the entire football players, regardless of classification.

It's just a shame it's ONLY a second round game.

 

[Jdphil2]

Even if they are a cadet school they still fall under VHSL rules. They apparently aren't breaking any rules though or they would be audited by the VHSL. Don't know how they do it but since they are that close looks like there should be some rule against it. Looking at it like that give Galax about 5 Grayson county players and with the coaching they have. No one in D1 could even smell them.

 

[RedPrideNation_RollPride]

Trevor, is that why you are promoting having Wilson develop an ROTC program?

I have come to enjoy most of the back and forth banter especially when it comes to some of the rivalries, even those the Gladiators are not involved in. Richlands is a premier program and with that comes constant criticism. As to the recruiting, I think that if parents want their kid involved in a better program, so be it. We have seen it locally in a few rare cases and inevitably if the kid and parent are satisfied, everyone else can kick cans. There is no loyalty owed to some of the unscrupulous coaches or schools that do not maximize academic opportunities or athletics to suit the parent or player. Not trying to argue, just stating that if it happens maybe the program with the "butt hurt" over being left behind should evaluate whether they are developing players in both aspects. Not saying this to be absolute but it is not always about athletics either.

 

[Thunder's-crest]

You may have talked to somebody from Tazewell but not one of our players.
There are no recruits on our team. They are some good players who have choose to add to what has become a very successful program, but they came on their own, when you win consistently that happens everywhere.
Grayson had a good qb and a receiver.... but that was about it.
Our qb passed for 270 some yards in the first half and played one series in the second. If that's getting in his face we will take it all day long. Your trying to fool yourself on our o line.
Always amazes me how some with so little knowledge about a program will get on here and talk stuff when they really don't have a clue.

 

[Trevor_Cash]

You dang right that's why I was promoting an ROTC program! Lol
I was told as long as they live in the same county it was okay? Not sure on that

 

[Thunder's-crest]

Trevor,
That game last year, that one ROTC guy was injured don't think he saw the field, there was one other who had moved here early in the season but we did not have him up to full speed. So what you seen last year was very much Richlands.

 

[RichlandsRyan]

Are we really going down this road again??

1. Yes, we have a few players on our team that weren't born and raised in Richlands. Two from Tazewell, one from Florida, one from West Virginia.

2. These kids parents MOVED to Richlands. Their addresses are inside the Richlands borders, and therefor they are allowed to play for us.

3. We do not go out and recruit anyone. When you've won 9 games a year for the last 11 years, have a turf field, have top of the line facilities, and have a fan base that wants you to succeed, kids want to come here. We can't control that. And if a kid thinks that coming to Richlands offers him better chance at a college scholarship to a school overtop of Tazewell or whatever, then how can you blame a kid for trying to get a free education??

4. If you think it doesn't happen everywhere, you're wrong. Grahams star RB (Cousin) is from NC. Abingdon has a transfer. Va High has a transfer. Tazewell has a kid from Damascus. This happens EVERYWHERE.

Can we stop beating a dead horse now and talk about football? I'm so tired of talking about cleats and recruiting.

 

[Trevor_Cash]

Thunder I wasn't knocking Richlands at all. I'm a huge fan of the program honestly. I feel like if you look at my post from the entire year on here you can tell that. You can have the best players in the world but you still have to coach them.

 

[Thunder's-crest]

I know you weren't Trevor. But because of the nature of the board one only gets bites and pieces. The fellow who started the comment about the ROTC thing was a Graham fan who one of his players came to us because of differences with their former coach.
Graham not only has the running back mentioned above but also a really good linebacker who was from Bluefield. If that is where they want to be, good for them. It's the parents and kids decision as long as they meet the guide lines.

They have their reasons for coming.
One of the players that came to us, his former team was 1-9 this year and their qb went to Bluefield before season.
Two of the others, their team has had multiple coaching changes multiple losing seasons. Last year they had enough talent to make a depth run but just could not get motivated the right way.

 

[Trevor_Cash]

Between the atmosphere and success why would you not want to play there? Players love to play at a school where they are appreciated

 

[Bigrhsfan]

No Trevor you're right, you have been in our corner, it just gets old when other people who have no idea about our program get on here and say stuff that is unfounded ! We do not recruit, we do not need to recruit, the parents and kids recruit us if any recruiting is done !
I guess some just can't understand why a kid would want to come to a small town like Richlands so they make up reasons. There are players that want to be part of our program because we have one of the best coaches & staffs in Va that has been here for 20 years, our history, the facilities, and our fan base which would follow this team any and everywhere !
So you say ( jdphile2 ) that you talked to a player from Tazewell who plays for us now, did you ask if he was recruited, or just ***-ume that for yourself ? Maybe ask the players and they will tell you WHY they came here !
Now I am sure someone will say, " don't be so sensitive " because that's what they always say after they throw the recruiting thing at us.......constantly, so yes we are tired of it because it is baseless !
Just know that because a kid wants to come to Richlands for whatever reason & plays football doesn't mean he was recruited.....we don't have too.
Now hopefully we don't have to talk about this anymore and we can just talk about the games, but I'm not stupid so I know better, someone always needs an excuse as to why they got beat !
How about just giving our kids what they deserve and just say they are a "heck of a team" !
Now I'm done with my rant and will not respond to any more of the "recruiting" posts.
Thanks to the posters that just gave OUR kids their props !

 

[obguthr]

Comparing East teams to West teams is difficult every year. There are so few common opponents. Richlands was clearly dominant in the West, Buckingham was dominant in the East. Yes, I know VHSL has Buckco classified in the west but they don't play teams west of the Blue Ridge. So which region is stronger? 8 seed Dan River has already beaten 9 seed Central Wise. Today's Appo-Lee game should be telling. Surely, Appomattox the #1 seed should win, but if that game isn't close, that may indicate the West isn't as all-powerful as we think they are. Either way, I think Richlands and Buckingham could be very entertaining.

 

[Thunder's-crest]

Having trouble following your logic?

 

[obguthr]

So far East > West. Buckingham has a good shot at "upsetting" Richlands' semi pro team.

 

[ghs89er]

So far East > West. Buckingham has a good shot at "upsetting" Richlands' semi pro team.

I'm calling it right now....all west state championship...I could be wrong...but don't think so...don't catch feelings over it...just my opinion....that's why they play the games

 

[Thunder's-crest]

So far East > West. Buckingham has a good shot at "upsetting" Richlands' semi pro team.

No logical data yet just opinions. Where is the Gilliam rating?
Buckingham has played many east so yeah will be a good cross up.
But I don't see a > (greater than) for either side yet.

 

[Jdphil2]

So my statement started with complimenting the talent of Richland's then my observations on the game then it turned into I was bashing the team after stating an evalution of what I saw. Also what was told to me about getting kids from other programs to come to Richland's. I said when you can pull talent from other schools this is what you get. Also my evaluation of your O-line is spot on. Keep it real and take it as it goes. Do I believe Grayson had a prayer last night? Uh no even a blind man could see that. And as for the receiver qb statement I will agree and had he been a little more on the more the game may have not been as lopsided not more competitive by a little less lopsided. And as for the timesland leading receiver he is only a sophomore and has a tremendous upside. As for them being the best part of the team our nose set the center in the qbs lap all night.

 

[stormwatcher]

Today's Appo-Lee game should be telling. Surely, Appomattox the #1 seed should win, but if that game isn't close, that may indicate the West isn't as all-powerful as we think they are. Either way, I think Richlands and Buckingham could be very entertaining.

Lee lost to Gate City by 42 and Va. High by 34. I seriously doubt this game will reveal anything about relative strength, unless Lee somehow manages to make this game close.

 

[Bigrhsfan]

" As for the Recruiting this come from a player at taco bell last night saying he and the running back are from tazewell. "

My only issue I had with what you said was the statement about recruiting after talking to the kid from Tazewell. We do have 2 kids that come down from Tazewell......the RB and the Kicker, so you must have talked to the kicker....did he say he was recruited ? That's the only issue I had. Plus I don't know of a kid from Abingdon......although I could be wrong, maybe Ryan or Kevtodd5 could clear that up.

The rest is your opinion which you have every right too.

 

[kevtodd5]

We rested lineman last night but this k what you want. Richlands played very little of the play book. You don't show the horses until you have too. We rested several

 

[Jdphil2]

Just said talked to him and also said must have done it right or the VHSL would be looking into it. Read and comprehend before making an argument. Good lord people. Also said and I state AGAIN.... Must be nice to be able to pu talent from other area schools... Could we understand what is being said.

 

[stormwatcher]

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/2818358/highlights/291523376/v2

 

[Jdphil2]

As for the resting comment agreed I would too. So you rested your running back and your O-line also? Great maybe a chink in the armor later down the road because those boys were big and not real good.

 

[kevtodd5]

Not all of them

 

[Jdphil2]

Oh so just the ones we did well against? So protection for the great qb last night wasn't a priority? Thanks. The kidd at taco bell commended our players on being upstanding and essentially taken a beating like a man so fans could just take a compliment and an observation into account. But just saying. Makes your reasoning look really lame.

 

[Jdphil2]

Also I assume #3 was your JV corner covering our all-state wr?

 

[kevtodd5]

Really?........that's why I have so few posts in all my years here is guys like you. Good luck to your team

 

[Jdphil2]

Just reading what u posted? You said it not me.

 

[2027]

Also I assume #3 was your JV corner covering our all-state wr?

Dude - you're doing a lot of talking when your team was dominated in everyway, even the OL dominated your defense.....if you bring more defenders than blockers you might get pressure, however, he was 12 of 14.....that doesn't seem like someone getting "pressured". Also #3 did shut down your all times land WR...he is a senior and yours a Sophmore, just a bad match up but he has potential. Just stop and look forward to next year.

 

[Jdphil2]

Read the whole thread that was exactly what I said. We DID NOT HAVE A CHANCE. I knew that coming in. I haven't watched the film yet but some better thrown balls and #3 would have given up over 100 yds. easy. And yards after the catch made most of his yards although they were almost perfectly placed balls. Someone on here said that the qb and the wr was all we had. Well do you actually think other teams we played didn't watch film also? He didn't get those yards by outrunning the db he's a 4.75 at the fastest its called separation and he can do that to anyone Grayson has played even #3. Thanks to Richland's he's well over 1200 for the season.