Business Thread - When should Gov Beshear open the economy back up?

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So Florida has 1,413 new cases and 48 new deaths today and decided to open up the beaches for swarms of people. Will be interesting to see how bad it gets down there in a couple weeks. That’s a record for new daily cases. **** like that is just reckless.
 
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So Florida has 1,413 new cases and 48 new deaths today and decided to open up the beaches for swarms of people. Will be interesting to see how bad it gets down there in a couple weeks. That’s a record for new daily cases. **** like that is just reckless.

Models are revising down big time in Florida - so evidently something is going right down there.
 
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And the peak being April 2 for deaths of 77 isn’t even supported by the data. Every available website I can find shows them with 43 deaths on that date and they have met or surpassed that total five times since then, including 3 of the past 4 days.
 

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And the peak being April 2 for deaths of 77 isn’t even supported by the data. Every available website I can find shows them with 43 deaths on that date and they have met or surpassed that total five times since then, including 3 of the past 4 days.
Everything seems to be driven by agenda

 
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You are talking about R0(R naught). Basically the rate at which an infected person infects others. For Coronavirus I’ve seen different numbers. But basically each infected person infects 2-3 others. I think it is a number that can be known with better/more testing. What we really need is to test a random sample, not just people that have symptoms. That plus antibody testing would be very helpful.

Hearing that UL hospital may start antibody testing next week.
 
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KYs 7 day average for reported cases has been on the decline for a few days now. Either Beshear is lying about the fact that we haven't seen a decrease or he has other data he isn't sharing, either is poor leadership.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/kentucky-coronavirus-cases.amp.html

Except he's not using the average. He'll even say today and tomorrow during his circle hour that "testing facilities are closed on the weekends, so these numbers are lower because of that."
 
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KYs 7 day average for reported cases has been on the decline for a few days now. Either Beshear is lying about the fact that we haven't seen a decrease or he has other data he isn't sharing, either is poor leadership.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/kentucky-coronavirus-cases.amp.html
The last two weeks have seen 10 of the 13 biggest days in daily new cases. There was a record number 241 just a week ago and the fourth highest total of 162 was only four days ago. There were 144 cases just two days ago. It’s starting to slow down from the peak of 241 but it’s hardly anywhere close to being in a significant decline.
 

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The last two weeks have seen 10 of the 13 biggest days in daily new cases. There was a record number 241 just a week ago and the fourth highest total of 162 was only four days ago. There were 144 cases just two days ago. It’s starting to slow down from the peak of 241 but it’s hardly anywhere close to being in a significant decline.
Mostly related to more... and reliable testing.

By all accounts hospitalizations are well under projections which seems to be the only reliable number.

We also have to put into perspective we have the entire state on strict lock down over 240 cases per day at peak.
 
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Everything seems to be driven by agenda

How is it a lie to report the increase in the number of cases? The guy he was tweeting wasn’t saying it was an increase in deaths. And since when has a 50% increase or greater in number of deaths not been significant? Since all these conspiracy theorists want to erroneously compare this to the flu, if we had a 50% increase in the deaths from flu compared to last year, we’d have over 17,000 more deaths. Is that insignificant just because it wasn’t a 100%+ increase?
 

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I don’t follow the news in other states closely, but I wonder how many nursing homes have been hit in other states. It’s obviously really bad when they get into one, but it seems like we’ve had them happen a lot to me. That’s with no perspective though
 
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I don’t follow the news in other states closely, but I wonder how many nursing homes have been hit in other states. It’s obviously really bad when they get into one, but it seems like we’ve had them happen a lot to me. That’s with no perspective though
As of four days ago, half of the outbreaks (56 of 102) here in Virginia were from long term care facilities, accounting for over 600 cases. And seems like the numbers that are reported everywhere are slow to add in cases from long term care facilities for whatever reason.
 

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Mostly related to more... and reliable testing.

By all accounts hospitalizations are well under projections which seems to be the only reliable number.

We also have to put into perspective we have the entire state on strict lock down over 240 cases per day at peak.
It’s also a combination of multiple days of testing and their results come in on the same day.

40 of the 134 were from nursing homes. 5/8 deaths were from nursing homes and 1 was an inmate.

Watching him yesterday, he looked as if he will deliberately misinterpret the declining case guidelines from the WH and then say he is following them, “it’s not me, it’s them” kinda deal.
 

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I don’t follow the news in other states closely, but I wonder how many nursing homes have been hit in other states. It’s obviously really bad when they get into one, but it seems like we’ve had them happen a lot to me. That’s with no perspective though
Iowa has had maybe 8 outbreaks in nursing homes. There was also an outbreak in a meat packing plant. The meat packing plant spiked over 100 cases one day. It seems that in addition to looking at overall numbers, we need to look at whet we are having these pockets of outbreaks. Again, population density seems to be key.
 

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Iowa has essentially been shut down for a month. Grocery and hardware stores are about the only thing open. But a lot of the cases have been from nursing homes and a meat packing plant. It really seems that population density is the biggest factor in the spread.

Use of public transportation and living in a building where you have to use an elevator is probably number one. New York City needs a lot of time to shut down if there's a pandemic coming.
 
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TortElvisII

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It’s also a combination of multiple days of testing and their results come in on the same day.

40 of the 134 were from nursing homes. 5/8 deaths were from nursing homes and 1 was an inmate.

Watching him yesterday, he looked as if he will deliberately misinterpret the declining case guidelines from the WH and then say he is following them, “it’s not me, it’s them” kinda deal.

Caravan protesting just went by where I'm at. I expected these to increase.
 

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So Florida has 1,413 new cases and 48 new deaths today and decided to open up the beaches for swarms of people. Will be interesting to see how bad it gets down there in a couple weeks. That’s a record for new daily cases. **** like that is just reckless.

Honest question: are you expecting that society stay closed until there are no deaths from Covid 19?
 

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My oldest son in late January early February was sick. Took him to the dr. Fever, sore throat, cough, felt like crap. Negative for flu, strep, and mono. Treated it as a sinus infection. Had a fever for 2-3 days. Coughed for 2 weeks. Slept a ton. I would not bet he had it but I would not be surprised if he did.
Hope he is well now as well as the rest of your family.
 
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2 things I’ve learned this week:

1. The more money you have, the more willing you are to stay at home.

2. The less money you have, the more willing you are to go back to work.

This isn’t really rocket science. At the end of the day, it’s about providing for your family. Social policy is great, but it will never trump (pun) economic policy. Especially in an election year.