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dawgstudent

Heisman
Apr 15, 2003
39,290
18,535
113
In the very, very, very remote chance we lost to Jackson State, Dan Mullen should be fired after the game.
 

dawgstudent

Heisman
Apr 15, 2003
39,290
18,535
113
In the very, very, very remote chance we lost to Jackson State, Dan Mullen should be fired after the game.
 

dawgstudent

Heisman
Apr 15, 2003
39,290
18,535
113
In the very, very, very remote chance we lost to Jackson State, Dan Mullen should be fired after the game.
 

615dawg

All-Conference
Jun 4, 2007
6,540
3,408
113
If we lose to Jackson State, we should cease fielding a football team at Mississippi State University.
 

GloryDawg

Heisman
Mar 3, 2005
18,950
14,872
113
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Talk about having to put a 3rd of the state of Mississippi on Suicide watch. Dang that would sux! I don't know if I would jump ship but I would diffidently not wear my State apparel for a while. I would even consider buying some eu de Maize body spray, purple game gear and hop on that band wagon for a while..</p>
 

seshomoru

Sophomore
Apr 24, 2006
5,542
199
63
Losing to Maine was inexcusable, and from that point on I never thought Croom should be our coach. So, I guess I'd have to buy because that would be along the same lines.
 

615dawg

All-Conference
Jun 4, 2007
6,540
3,408
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I am certainly not defending the inexcuable loss to Maine, but as someone that has worked with the lower division schools (most major college fans are unaware of how they actually work) here is an unoffical opinion of how they are rated.

Division I-A/FBS BCS Conferences
Division I-A Minor Conferences sans SunBelt
Division I-AA/FCS Elite Teams
Sun Belt Conference
Division I-AA sans non championship conferences (MEAC and SWAC) - this is where Maine is.
Division II
Mississippi and Kansas Junior College Teams
NAIA scholarship teams
California Junior College Teams
Elite Division III non-scholarship teams
MEAC and SWAC
Other Junior College teams
rest of Division III, NAIA and NCCAA (National Christian College Athletic Association) teams.
 

seshomoru

Sophomore
Apr 24, 2006
5,542
199
63
615dawg said:
I am certainly not defending the inexcuable loss to Maine, but as someone that has worked with the lower division schools (most major college fans are unaware of how they actually work) here is an unoffical opinion of how they are rated.

Division I-A/FBS BCS Conferences
Division I-A Minor Conferences sans SunBelt
Division I-AA/FCS Elite Teams
Sun Belt Conference
Division I-AA sans non championship conferences (MEAC and SWAC) - this is where Maine is.
Division II
Mississippi and Kansas Junior College Teams
NAIA scholarship teams
California Junior College Teams
Elite Division III non-scholarship teams
MEAC and SWAC
Other Junior College teams
rest of Division III, NAIA and NCCAA (National Christian College Athletic Association) teams.
Huh?
 

futaba.79

Redshirt
Jun 4, 2007
2,296
0
0
you can't fire a coach after one game. Losing to JSU isn't that remote of a possibility. Don't forget that they've got a goodly number of DI transfers - players with issues can come together for a game and play lights out. With our luck, that's exactly what will happen.
 

bonedaddy401

Redshirt
Aug 3, 2012
4,663
22
38
Not only should he be fired but he should buy everyone in attendance's ticket back for face value out of his pocket. We cut our losses early and hire Jackie back for the rest of the season until we find a replacement for 2010.
 

615dawg

All-Conference
Jun 4, 2007
6,540
3,408
113
isn't on the same par with their I-AA counterparts -they don't even participate in the I-AA championships.

The SWAC is so bad. JSU is one of the better teams in the league, but some of their competition would lose to good high schools. We should win by 5 touchdowns.
 

seshomoru

Sophomore
Apr 24, 2006
5,542
199
63
you had the SWAC and the MEAC listed twice, you listed them together twice, and you make the point to say that is where Maine is. Which... would be where JSU is. So, I was kinda stumped as to how the game wasn't along the same lines if you listed them together... twice.

Anyway, if Maine is actually better than JSU then that just means I'll have to buy even more to prevent myself from being an even bigger hypocrite.
 

patdog

Heisman
May 28, 2007
55,968
24,963
113
together (that's where Maine is) and then he ranked the SWAC/MEAC teams below some JUCO and Div. III teams. He exaggerates, but the fact is Maine is a much much better football program than anybody in the SWAC. The SWAC is easily the worst I-AA conference in the country and is worse than the top Div. II conferences. It's not quite as bad as he says it is, but it's nowhere near competitive with the I-AA conferences that send their teams to the playoffs (or the Ivy League which doesn't). The SWAC party line is that they quit sending their champion to the playoffs because they wanted the Grambling-Southern game to be played around Thanksgiving, but the real reason is the SWAC was something like 2-30 in playoff games in their history.
 

seshomoru

Sophomore
Apr 24, 2006
5,542
199
63
"Sans non championship conferences" meaning they don't go to the playoffs or something. I was thinking it was just descriptive of the 'division' and he gave two conferences as an example.
 

Maroon Eagle

All-American
May 24, 2006
17,848
7,600
102
I'd call it more like...</p>
Division I-A/FBS BCS Conferences
Division I-A Minor Conferences sans SunBelt
Division I-AA/FCS Elite Teams
Sun Belt Conference
Division I-AA sans non championship conferences (MEAC and SWAC <font color="#FF0000">add Northeast & Pioneer</font>)1
Division II Elite
Elite
Mississippi and Kansas Junior College Teams-- <font color="#FF0000">add Texas & Oklahoma Jucos too</font>
SWAC
<font color="#FF0000">Northeast & Pioneer (a.k.a - nonscholarship I-AA colleges)</font>
<font color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000">Other Division II teams
NAIA scholarship teams
Elite Division III non-scholarship teams </font>
<font color="#000000">Other Junior College teams
California Junior College Teams </font>
</font>rest of Division III, NAIA and NCCAA (National Christian College Athletic Association) teams.

1 The MEAC champion participates in FCS (aka I-AA) playoff play, which means it shouldn't be included.
 

skeptic

Redshirt
Jan 29, 2009
201
0
0
Someone would be on here that day pronouncing how unexpectedly great JSU was this year. How the BCS would have to declare a split national championship since JSU would most likely run the table. Oh, Wait. Ronsavelt doesn't speak for dawg nation.

Buy, buy like stock in....uh, well.....nevermind.</p>
 

patdog

Heisman
May 28, 2007
55,968
24,963
113
The bowl eligibility rules and the economy of college football pretty much mandate that you play a I-AA team every year (you pretty much can't get to 7 home games every year without a I-AA game every year). So it's a given that we (along with 90% of the rest of Division I-A) will be playing a I-AA team every year. You may not like that, but that's just the way it is. Get over it. So, given that we will be playing a I-AA team, why not play one that will actually bring some paying customers to the game and also generate interest within the state?</p>
 

GloryDawg

Heisman
Mar 3, 2005
18,950
14,872
113
615dawg said:
I am certainly not defending the inexcuable loss to Maine, but as someone that has worked with the lower division schools (most major college fans are unaware of how they actually work) here is an unoffical opinion of how they are rated.

Division I-A/FBS BCS Conferences
Division I-A Minor Conferences sans SunBelt
Division I-AA/FCS Elite Teams
Sun Belt Conference
Division I-AA sans non championship conferences (MEAC and SWAC) - this is where Maine is.
Division II
Mississippi and Kansas Junior College Teams
NAIA scholarship teams
California Junior College Teams
Elite Division III non-scholarship teams
MEAC and SWAC
Other Junior College teams
rest of Division III, NAIA and NCCAA (National Christian College Athletic Association) teams.

Should not South Panola be in there some where?
 

Todd4State

Redshirt
Mar 3, 2008
17,411
1
0
that goes back to spirit of compeititon. Playing a I-AA school like Maine, yeah, we should beat them 9 out of 10 times, but still, it's just one of those things that shouldn't happen. As someone said, they are WAY below our level. I can tell you right now that we are going to beat the living crap out of them- and without really trying.

Just because MSU playing South Panola would draw a crowd doesn't mean it should be played.

Also the playing JSU because it will draw a crowd thing is stupid. Especially in a year when we have LSU, Bama, and Ole Miss at home, not to mention a brand new HC. If we played someone like McNeese State, it would probably sell out just because of it being Mullen's first game. Are we really concerned with attendance? As ****** as we were last year, we still drew well considering. And I was at SELU. That was one of our better attended games, and that was after we were emabrassed by La Tech. Why do we need to generate interest in the state? We're clearly one of the top two sports teams in the state.
 

GloryDawg

Heisman
Mar 3, 2005
18,950
14,872
113
Todd4State said:
It would be like a 6A high school playing a 1A school in Mississippi.
Puckett would give them a hell of a game. For three quarter anyways. Not that I am from Puckett just a high school football fan and those country boys are pretty tuff.

My wife's nephew plays football at Forsyth Central High School. It is a 5A school. The football team is really a 3A school. The reason why the school is 5A is all the Mexicans in the school driving the attendence up. Non of them plays real football.

Just a thought.
 

patdog

Heisman
May 28, 2007
55,968
24,963
113
Big D said:
Puckett would give them a hell of a game. For three quarter anyways. Not that I am from Puckett just a high school football fan and those country boys are pretty tuff.
 

ArrowDawg

Redshirt
Oct 10, 2006
2,041
0
0
....next season will be another tough one, but there's no reason or excuse why we should lose to JSU. If we do, fire Mullen on the spot. Either we keep making excuses for our losing programs, or we decide not to accept it anymore. Our recent actions have been towards not accepting it, so I hope we don't revert back to old habits.
 

patdog

Heisman
May 28, 2007
55,968
24,963
113
What difference does it make that we'll sell out the UM, LSU and Bama games? That won't mean jack **** to attendance at the I-AA game. And for the record, official attendance at the SE Louisiana game last year was 41,938 in a stadium that seats approximately 55,000. I'm betting JSU will be significantly more than that.</p>
 

MSUCostanza

Redshirt
Jan 10, 2007
5,706
0
0
was two of McNair's years there, 1992 and 1994. In '92, they went 7-3, won the SWAC, then lost their playoff game 78-27 to LA-Monroe.

In 1994, they went 8-2-1, won the SWAC, and lost their playoff game 63-20.

We should beat Jackson State by 50.