Recruits great players in CUSA, underachieves all year with player spats and suspensions, and loses to bad teams. Turns it on at the end and wins CUSA tournament.
Sound familiar?
Sound familiar?
Buy/Sell Josh Pastner = Rick Stansbury
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his mistakes as a young coach, while Stansbury hasn't seemed to care about all the **** he does wrong and never tries to fix it (strength/conditioning, discipline, terrible offensive strategy).
You and Rick have a lot in common then. Because you don't seem to be able to get over the stupid post syndrome.missouridawg said:
Pastner is definitely in over his head and the jury is still out as to whether he is going to be able to be a successful coach. Clearly, Memphis is giving him time to learn on the job, and what he's learning is that you can't coach a college team like you'd coach an AAU team. Memphis has been an undisciplined, disorganized mess all year, but they have a crapload of freshmen and their talent is unmistakable. Rick gets a lot of credit for his recruiting prowess, but he'snever pulled in a recruiting class like Pastner had last year.
There are definitely some similarities so far, but I'd sell because I don't believe that Pastner at any point will allow a player to take control of a team. He definitely has wider tolerance for in game mistakes than what a lot of Memphis fans are used to, but I still see Pastner overall as a pretty big no-nonsense type of coach.
Both MSU and Memphis had McDonald's all-americans get into fights with teammates this year. The only difference? Pastner kicked his freshman off the team while we know what happened with Sidney. He also suspended their junior team captain, Wes Witherspoon for a pretty lengthy time for simply making fun of a coach. I can't remember what all else has gone on for the Tigers this year, but it's night and day to me when I compare them to Stansbury's acceptance of Sidney's lazy *** or Jamont just doing whatever the hell he wanted for 3 years. Maybe the end result in terms of recruiting and wins/losses will be similar, but I at least respect what Pastner is trying to do. Stansbury over the last 5 years, on the other hand? Not so much.
Both MSU and Memphis had McDonald's all-americans get into fights with teammates this year. The only difference? Pastner kicked his freshman off the team while we know what happened with Sidney. He also suspended their junior team captain, Wes Witherspoon for a pretty lengthy time for simply making fun of a coach. I can't remember what all else has gone on for the Tigers this year, but it's night and day to me when I compare them to Stansbury's acceptance of Sidney's lazy *** or Jamont just doing whatever the hell he wanted for 3 years. Maybe the end result in terms of recruiting and wins/losses will be similar, but I at least respect what Pastner is trying to do. Stansbury over the last 5 years, on the other hand? Not so much.
Pastner doesn't get great recruits for cusa, he gets great recruits for any conference.
His players misbehave and he works to rehab them and then throws em off the program if they dont change.
His program was decimated before he took it over, he plays a bunch of young players because of it, and if they stay, he will probably get the program back on solid consistent ground.
he has been there all of 2 seasons and save a few players last sea pain, he had to start the program all over. None of the talent that was going to come in actually came into the program.
It's just obviously way too early to judge his abilities due to the circumstances around his hiring.
His players misbehave and he works to rehab them and then throws em off the program if they dont change.
His program was decimated before he took it over, he plays a bunch of young players because of it, and if they stay, he will probably get the program back on solid consistent ground.
he has been there all of 2 seasons and save a few players last sea pain, he had to start the program all over. None of the talent that was going to come in actually came into the program.
It's just obviously way too early to judge his abilities due to the circumstances around his hiring.
Pastner's only been at it a couple of years. Hard to know how he'll turn out. He looks in over his head, though, honestly. And I kind of hate that, because he's pretty easy to root for. Memphis fans won't give him enough time to learn on the job, either. Many of them still think Larry Finch and Keith Lee are still out there. Most UM fans I know say that Pastner was only promoted as a stop-gap until they can hire ________ to take them back to the FInal Four.
