Cal is slacking

[CapnBlubs]

I'll say this. Tubby was a decent, mediocre coach. My only point is we groaned about how bad we had it, and then got BCG. And boy, how BAD we had it. I don't ever want to see that again.

I'm happy with Cal's level of success with the program as it stands. I would like a few more wins against the blooda, sure. But minus the Nerlens injury and that cold shooting NCAA 2016-2016 performance- we've done well in the post season (even when we shouldn't have.)

I'm bummed about tonight...but I'm not panicking. Not yet. If we struggle against UCLA or VT...then I might start to worry about the state of the season. If we hoist 9 by years end? I don't care who we lost to at that point. Now, if we have another early exit or fail to make the Final Four then maybe I grumble and worry about Cal.

Stoops has done better than most Kentucky football coaches, albeit with some absolutely BONEHEADED games. This year's UF game? But, neither he or Cal are perfect to be sure.



That's my point. For better or worse, Cal and Stoops are our guys right now. Now, again, neither is perfect, but, I think both are doing well. Cal especially has a tough job year in and out. By design, to be sure. But, even K hasn't done it exactly like Cal.



Let's not pretend that K and Duke don't get help from the NCAA in seeding when we have to walk a gauntlet every year. And also, K has Allen in a senior. We had two seniors last year, and should've been in the Final Four...but again, some outside forces surely lent a hand in making it very hard for us....



Cal made some questionable calls that night sure. But our old friend Higgins was there too....wasn't the only reason we lost, but, without him there I think we have a much better shot at finishing off that game.

The only one beating him in the post season is K. And again, Duke never gets help in the postseason do they? And let's not even count UNC because 20 years of academic fraud should've annihilated any respect and records that "program" had.

As Cal underachieved? Maybe. If he comes up empty handed in the next two seasons, I'll lean more towards yes.

But for now, I'm willing to be patient and let him work.

No problem with anything you said. We get no love, from anyone, so it isn't entirely Cal's fault (or his team's). UNC is corrupt. KU is corrupt. The NCAA is corrupt. Higgins was their tool, for years (hopefully, no longer, now that they'd be scared to deploy him for one of our games).

But at some point, we do have to hold him accountable...if he doesn't hang another title banner in 2019? 2020? 2021? What's the reasonable "deadline?" Who knows...but he's certainly making enough money to be subject to scrutiny.

 

[Bluegrassking]

This. You and I seem to see things similarly on both Stoops and Cal. We don't want them fired by any means...but we have some valid, fact-based criticisms which somehow make us crazy in the eyes of the worshippers.

Could we really find a replacement for either one who we'd be 100% sure would do better? Absolutely not. But neither one is perfect.

Sure, Cal has a young team. But isn't Coach K beating Cal at his own game, at this point? Especially if (God forbid) he gets another title this year?

We would all feel so differently if Cal hadn't choked away the best season of all time in 2015. But he did. So here we are. He's great, but he isn't perfect, and he's lagging behind other blue-bloods.

Nothing is 100%, that is a throwaway comment. Who gives you just a more likely than not chance of an upgrade and what are you smoking that anybody wants a situation where the results Calapari are defined as disappointing.

I find all of this handwriting to be absurd and a distorted vision of the realities of the sport.

If we got the Duke/UNCheats preferential treatment we'd win the championship like six out of ten times but we don't but we eat very well regardless of some delusional entittled folks wanting to pretend we don't. Three Final Fours, six Elite Eights, and a Champion is one of our better periods in history.

 

[CapnBlubs]

Nothing is 100%, that is a throwaway comment. Who gives you just a more likely than not chance of an upgrade and what are you smoking that anybody wants a situation where the results Calapari are defined as disappointing.

I find all of this handwriting to be absurd and a distorted vision of the realities of the sport.

If we got the Duke/UNCheats preferential treatment we'd win the championship like six out of ten times but we don't but we eat very well regardless of some delusional entittled folks wanting to pretend we don't. Three Final Fours, six Elite Eights, and a Champion is one of our better periods in history.

I thought I gave a pretty fair assessment of things. For you to say I'm smoking something just because I would say Cal isn't perfect (which he's not)...well, sorry, but you're the one with a distorted perception.

 

[bbnkat02]

No problem with anything you said. We get no love, from anyone, so it isn't entirely Cal's fault (or his team's). UNC is corrupt. KU is corrupt. The NCAA is corrupt. Higgins was their tool, for years (hopefully, no longer, now that they'd be scared to deploy him for one of our games).

But at some point, we do have to hold him accountable...if he doesn't hang another title banner in 2019? 2020? 2021? What's the reasonable "deadline?" Who knows...but he's certainly making enough money to be subject to scrutiny.

Sure. I've had games where I've blessed out Cal more than the players.
Absolutely. I just wish people would understand how HARD it is to win a championship in college basketball. It's probably the hardest one to be honest. All other sports you get series and the like. Not college basketball. Win or go home. I hate it, but, it also makes it one of the most amazing championships to get.

But, again, I'm wandering. Our goal should be a title every year. Now, realistically, that's just not going to happen. Too much parity, and with a single elimination tourney, the best team doesn't always win. If Cal can just get one more, I think he achieves permanent status and GOAT at UK.

I say this year and the next. Because with the talent on the floor now and what's coming (hopefully) and baring injuries, he should have one over the next two years. If he has to coach every play? So be it. I will never fault Cal for putting his players first. It's how we've gotten this talent level. But, I think sometimes he does do it to his detriment. But...that's Cal.

 

[MarkPftw]

I get this -- but your timing is kind of selective..

We beat KU for the title in 2012..

We beat Duke in 2015..

and we beat down BOTH KU and UCLA in 2014..

First of all..let me clear something up..I said "Since the beginning of 2016"..but I meant since the beginning of the 2015-16 season (That covers the Duke win). More importantly though, my timing was selective for a reason. I honestly do feel the loss to Wisconsin in the 2015 Final 4 has really effected Coach Cal. It's effected how I am as a fan now..not just as a UK basketball fan but as a fan of every team I root for (UK basketball, UK football, UK baseball, UK women's basketball, Cowboys NFL football, etc) and I'm just a fan. I can only imagine how it probably feels for the coaches and team to come so close to being Gods of college basketball and being the only 40-0 team ever but coming up just short. Let's be honest, Coach Cal and UK basketball hasn't been the same since that loss to Wisconsin. And please don't mistake this as I want Coach Cal "fired" or any BS like that..that's not the case at all..or even close. I'm just addressing some real concerns and things I've noticed.

To make things even tougher, the NCAA seems to badly want UK to lose basically every March when UK always gets put in, by far, the toughest Region..whether we are 1 seeds, 2 seeds, 4 seeds, or 8 seeds..it doesn't matter, we always get put in the Region of death..and then with Higgins and his garbage ******** last year. All of it basically makes me and probably several other UK fans feel pretty damn hopeless about winning National Titles. Meanwhile, Duke IS catching up, UNCheat is catching up (With the NCAA's help), Kansas and UCLA among others have been getting the best of us the last 2+ seasons, etc...I hope things change. It seems we are stuck in neutral right now..and Duke, UNCheat, ect...are in drive and with the NCAA in their corner.

 

[K_TIME]

Funny how some of you guys pick stats at certain points in time...how about this to be fair. Cal vs. BlueBoods while at UK (why we pick the last 2 or 3 years is sort of goofy...there is no recent trending downward):
- Kansas 3-3 (1-0 in NCAA)
- UNC 5-3 (1-1 in NCAA)
- Duke 1-1
- UL 8-2 (2-0 in NCAA)
- UCLA 2-2 (1-0 in NCAA)

I will not put IU on here as they aren't a BlueBlood anymore :smiley:...and I'm not 100% sure UCLA is a blueblood as well.

But as you can see, we are 19-11 in all game and 5-1 in NCAA games which are worthy way more vs. November/December games. And the lone NCAA loss was a 2 pt buzzer beater last year vs. UNC (and some completely John Higgins BS reffing). I see no major issues with Cal. We'll see how this year unfolds...but I'm prepared for a sort of "bridge year" and next year we zero in on another big run.

 

[MarkPftw]

Funny how some of you guys pick stats at certain points in time...how about this to be fair. Cal vs. BlueBoods while at UK (why we pick the last 2 or 3 years is sort of goofy...there is no recent trending downward):
- Kansas 3-3 (1-0 in NCAA)
- UNC 5-3 (1-1 in NCAA)
- Duke 1-1
- UL 8-2 (2-0 in NCAA)
- UCLA 2-2 (1-0 in NCAA)

I will not put IU on here as they aren't a BlueBlood anymore :smiley:...and I'm not 100% sure UCLA is a blueblood as well.

But as you can see, we are 19-11 in all game and 5-1 in NCAA games which are worthy way more vs. November/December games. And the lone NCAA loss was a 2 pt buzzer beater last year vs. UNC (and some completely John Higgins BS reffing). I see no major issues with Cal. We'll see how this year unfolds...but I'm prepared for a sort of "bridge year" and next year we zero in on another big run.

Louisville is not a blue blood either..never have been and never will be. As for me though, I intentionally chose to start with the 2015-16 season because that's about the time that Coach Cal's defenses were horrendous until about February of 2017, guys that had no business going pro started going pro (Even if they were projected to go in the 2nd round of the draft), Coach K catching Duke up in the recruiting department, the NCAA working hard to get UNCheat and Duke Titles (That actually started at the end of the 2014-15 season), etc...I'm not bashing Coach Cal or anything of the such..I'm just saying things haven't been the same since the Wisconsin loss in 2015.

 

[K_TIME]

Louisville is not a blue blood either..never have been and never will be. As for me though, I intentionally chose to start with the 2015-16 season because that's about the time that Coach Cal's defenses were horrendous until about February of 2017, guys that had no business going pro started going pro (Even if they were projected to go in the 2nd round of the draft), Coach K catching Duke up in the recruiting department, the NCAA working hard to get UNCheat and Duke Titles (That actually started at the end of the 2014-15 season), etc...I'm not bashing Coach Cal or anything of the such..I'm just saying things haven't been the same since the Wisconsin loss in 2015.

So Cal gets judged the year after KAT/WCS team? We start judging him in the Skal/Murray in 2015? WTH sense does that make?

 

[KingOfBBN]

Regular season is pointless and meaningless. All that matters is March. That's the reality of college basketball.

 

[MarkPftw]

So Cal gets judged the year after KAT/WCS team? We start judging him in the Skal/Murray in 2015? WTH sense does that make?

Ummm..maybe because that's when a noticeable drop off began and others have started gaining ground ??? Nobody is "judging" Coach Cal though. We're just saying "Look at the difference now/the last 2+ seasons compared to prior to 2015-16. That's all. Relax.

 

[TankedCat]

This is the reality that many posters are telling fans they have to accept.

Youth means we're going to lose some early big made for TV games, but wait until March.

After watching Duke last night I'm having a hard time seeing how our team of freshmen will stack up against their team of freshmen and a senior that just dropped 30+ points on the second ranked team in the nation - in November or March.

So the mantra will change from March to wait until next year.

But that's the real hiccup in the UK formula - there is no next year. Cal's system is broke if there is a next year because that means these kids are taking up scholarships for the next great class of kids that will be young , and if a group of kids goes to Kentucky and doesn't go pro, then why should they go to Kentucky at all?

I am sure there is no shortage of fans that will tell me this team is capable of winning a national championship in March. And from a spoiled fan standpoint when compared to the Tubby/Gillispie years we would have taken that in a heart beat. But it is what it is, and at this point in the state of UK under Cal - UK is expected to put a team on the floor that competes.

I'm not even mad about last night, it actually would have been a pretty sizeable upset for UK to win that game, and I think we covered the spread.Playing Vermont was huge, IMO, for preparing UK for Kansas.

But the reality is in early season, as a freshmen team, its going to be difficult for us to beat a balanced highly ranked team - regardless of how good we are. The pablum that keep fans from dwelling on it is the "wait until March" mantra. But that is an empty promise, because everyone has a different tolerance of what success means in March. Especially if the season ends with an elite 8 or a seeding matchup that is a huge disadvantage to UK. Thats when it really gets fun. Lets face it, the wait until March mantra is really code for "just wait until we are in a final four and you won't care about any regular season loss".

Another reality is we have Cal for probably 3 to 5 more years. You can see the end coming with Brad, the fan angst growing with his system, our dominance in one and done diminishing and pressure from the NCAA to find another alternative for these mercenary type kids that don't want to be in college.

I agree we aren't going to find a replacement for Cal that will keep us on a top 10 continuous trajectory. I suspect post Cal, assuming Barnhart doesn't hire a drunk , we'll revert back to a cycle of good to very good teams with good being defined and struggling to stay in the top 25 and compete in the SEC. Very good will be the once every 4 or 5 year team that is top 5 and has a legitimate shot at the title - And he won't be appreciated because everyone will remember the 2010 - 2014 years and use them as a measuring stick.

But hey,. that's just my opinion. Everyone has one as the saying goes.

 

[K_TIME]

Ummm..maybe because that's when a noticeable drop off began and others have started gaining ground ??? Nobody is "judging" Coach Cal though. We're just saying "Look at the difference now/the last 2+ seasons compared to prior to 2015-16. That's all. Relax.

So last year we get beat by UNC (who went on to win the title) at the buzzer with a BS Whistle in first half.....Was last year a bad year? I'm just trying to keep up with the revisionist history that some of you are trying to make up

 

[KyFaninNC]

THIS. Since the beginning of 2016, we are 0-3 vs. Kansas..1-2 vs. UCLA (Thank God we beat them in last year's Sweet 16), 0-1 vs. IU, 1-1 vs. UNCheat, (Higgins screwed us pretty good but still..L is a L), 1-1 vs. Loserville, and 1-0 vs. Duke...that's 4-8 vs. other blue bloods and rivals in just the last 2+ seasons. I don't care what anyone says, Coach Cal lost something when we lost in the Final 4 to Wisconsin. He's not been the same since. That loss was major. A lot more impacting than people here want to admit.

Rack this post.

I think Cal is a victim of his own success. He is stubborn to a fault,like Tubby was with his ball line defense, never change it, no matter type of players you, trying make square pegs fit into round holes.

Yes, we are young, but WTF we are young every year, Cal, stop using that as an excuse, you choose to be young every year.

Last night perfect example, Duke has mostly freshmen and K played zone all night, we have freshmen, no zone all night. K is willing to adapt,like he did in 15, to the type of players he has, and Cal is gonna play the same way no matter what type of players he has. This is why he gets out coached so much.

The confusing part to me is why he don't realize what his weakness is and try and change himself. Just be more flexible and think outside the box.

Let's face it, this team has no elite basketball players, with Knox maybe being the exception, but he seems to disappear and not fight to get the ball, just stands around hoping the ball comes to him.

KU is not that good and they beat a stable full of 5 stars with only 7 scholarship players.

I am not surprised, I think most of us expected to lose that game.

 

[GoCatsForever2k15]

Jesus Christ we have dumb fans.

 

[KYFOSSIL]

No problem with anything you said. We get no love, from anyone, so it isn't entirely Cal's fault (or his team's). UNC is corrupt. KU is corrupt. The NCAA is corrupt. Higgins was their tool, for years (hopefully, no longer, now that they'd be scared to deploy him for one of our games).

But at some point, we do have to hold him accountable...if he doesn't hang another title banner in 2019? 2020? 2021? What's the reasonable "deadline?" Who knows...but he's certainly making enough money to be subject to scrutiny.

The Cats have a habit of going 15-20 years without an NC. We have had 3 real chances to win it all plus another final four and a very solid chance late last year. If Cal goes another 7 years without an NC but 3-4 FFs I’ll take it because it would have been and awesome ride and I clearly remember our deep fall after 98 until Cal came.

 

[KYFOSSIL]

During his time here Cal has , just 1 less title than K and an overall better winning%, I️ think the same number of title games and FFs (I️ May be wrong ). Does 1 game makes K some God like figure and Cal and under achiever.

 

[Whatsup]

Meltdown. I knew it would happen. Love Cal. Love the team. It's only November. Everyone on the team will improve. Everyone knows by March Cal and the team will be fine. Vanderbilt has not played a game yet, and things will get even better when he returns. I'm done, please continue........

 

[KYFOSSIL]

Rack this post.

I think Cal is a victim of his own success. He is stubborn to a fault,like Tubby was with his ball line defense, never change it, no matter type of players you, trying make square pegs fit into round holes.

Yes, we are young, but WTF we are young every year, Cal, stop using that as an excuse, you choose to be young every year.

Last night perfect example, Duke has mostly freshmen and K played zone all night, we have freshmen, no zone all night. K is willing to adapt,like he did in 15, to the type of players he has, and Cal is gonna play the same way no matter what type of players he has. This is why he gets out coached so much.

The confusing part to me is why he don't realize what his weakness is and try and change himself. Just be more flexible and think outside the box.

Let's face it, this team has no elite basketball players, with Knox maybe being the exception, but he seems to disappear and not fight to get the ball, just stands around hoping the ball comes to him.

KU is not that good and they beat a stable full of 5 stars with only 7 scholarship players.

I am not surprised, I think most of us expected to lose that game.

So Cal can not lose games?
By Tourney time Duke was being describe as world beaters and they couldn’t get out of the south.
You like many will complain that youth is no excuse then put your other face on and complain Cals lost it and doesn’t get enough top 5 or top 20 players.

After a loss this place is usually full of trolls but not so much after this game. Just the same Cal hating, more Kentucky boys, and why don’t Cal zone type players douche bags that come here during any unsuccessful moment.

AZ should have been in foul trouble both haves and that would have ended this game.

 

[KYFOSSIL]

Meltdown. I knew it would happen. Love Cal. Love the team. It's only November. Everyone on the team will improve. Everyone knows by March Cal and the team will be fine. Vanderbilt has not played a game yet, and things will get even better when he returns. I'm done, please continue........

Nah this not a meltdown by this boards stands this is a fart in the wind by the same old gas passers.

 

[BlueArrow87]

Lord I'm proud of the team, most of these negative asses on this post forgot one thing the last couple years we have been super young yet we still have success in the tournament. It sucks to lose to a rival but most people thought wed get blown out by 20.Plus I'm glad we aren't like North Carolina, Duke, crying to retain players, some recruits will remember that. I don't want to be like Kansas either keeping star players on the bench till their 3rd year.

 

[FrankUnderwood]

want to be the best then prove it. Not proving it. Get it going boy.

Terrible

 

[GLR5555]

This thread is what makes us look like idiots on other forums.

 

[TankedCat]

which forums? I've been to UNC,Kansas, UL's, IU's and Dukes. Don't see anything different there over the years.

 

[DelkBowl]

Relax guys. Thought we played great all things considered. I just don't think he should have gone for two. Also would like to not be 0-3 vs ku in the last three. I'm sure Cal feels the same.

 

[DelkBowl]

Your solution is to play teams that aren't good so we won't lose? Maybe Cal should volunteer for the NIT too. I'd hate to lose to a rival in the Sweet 16.

With all freshmen this early. Might be a good idea to get started till they get some experience under their belts. Schedule them in mid December. We have no juniors or Seniors so we will lose early.

 

[DelkBowl]

Look, we play 8 or 9 straight now that we should win handily. Playing a game like this is a good measuring stick and test to see just where you stack up and what you need to focus on fixing to compete and win in that type of game. Now if we followed this game with 2 or 3 other top 25 teams then I might complain, but nothing at all wrong with throwing them into the fire line that right out of the chute to see where they stack up.

I don't necessarily disagree.

 

[DelkBowl]

Cal just took a team of almost all freshman head to head with a legit top five team and had a chance to win late in the game. .... in November.

I am proud of their effort. If you are not, then by all means, grab your favorite uniform and cheer for another team.

I thought they did great. I'll cheer for whom I choose and I suppose i'll let you do that same.

 

[DelkBowl]

We beat UCLA in the Sweet 16 when it mattered. They beat us 2 times before that in meaningless December games. Funny how you also just used 2 of 3 when we also absolutely destroyed them in 2014 by 40. Idiot.

Signed UNC. oh i can can name call too. Idiot. oooo i did good.

 

[DelkBowl]

Time to turn the computer off.

That won't change the outcome. We played great but bad decision down the stretch imo.

 

[KyCatFan1]

Regular season is pointless and meaningless. All that matters is March. That's the reality of college basketball.

They are not meaningless. These are the games that end up determining seeding in the tournament. With as bad as the SEC has been in recent years, these are the games they judge us by the most to determine if we get a high seed. It isn't the only factor, but I'd rather have wins over top 10 teams than losses.

I really think we should cutout these November top 10 games as long as Cal chooses to be young every year. If you want to play these types of teams then schedule them in like mid December. Give the team some time to improve. The season is starting way too early to expect much from a team with 8 new players. Give them more warm-up games before throwing them into the fire.

I remember when we opened the season with a marquee game in early December. We just played a top 5 team on November 14th. A couple more weeks of practice and a few more tuneup games and I think we might have won the game.

I'd also like to see Cal modify his recruiting a little bit. I think the ideal roster would have 1 or 2 elite level one and done types, 5 or 6 of the 2 or 3 year players, and the other 4 or 5 would be 4 or 5 year players. We need to find a way to keep the marginal 1st round NBA Draft players here longer like other teams do (not counting Diallo since he didn't even play last year). The only ones that come back are usually ones that severely underperform.

Who knows, maybe he already is purposely working toward that with the few high level players we have this year and signing guys like Herro who appear to be multi-year players. Unless a bunch of our guys make poor decisions and leave regardless, we should have a much more experienced team next year.

 

[shutzhund]

Don't lose to a rival three years in a row. Don't lose to a rival 2 of 3 (ucla). Pull it together or start playing more EKUs earl on. Going to turn into Izzo.

Give it another 24hrs and decide if you aren't being a little over the top.

 

[Blue Decade]

want to be the best then prove it. Not proving it. Get it going boy.

Maybe you should be our basketball coach.

 

[TankedCat]

At one time it was pretty common for Duke and Syracuse to have a heavily stacked cupcake schedule early in the season.

I can remember Syracuse not leaving the state of New York until January one year.

Obviously that has changed but it was a method that worked for the teams. Unfortunately we don't have any powerhouse SEC teams like UNC to bump our RPI as the season progresses.

 

[katwest]

As long as we start five freshmen it's going to be like this, we will always be able to hang with good teams in games like this but the inexperience will kick in and make it tough to win these early season games. Way to many bad decisions and turnovers but we were right with them to the end, it's hard to win against talented teams with experience.

 

[TankedCat]

I'd also like to see Cal modify his recruiting a little bit. I think the ideal roster would have 1 or 2 elite level one and done types, 5 or 6 of the 2 or 3 year players, and the other 4 or 5 would be 4 or 5 year players.

I'm actually going in a different direction. My belief is that the one and done game has changed to the detriment of UK.
First you have to look at the makeup of the 2012 national championship team. Lets set aside that we had the ultimate veteran player in Darius Miller, and returning talent in Terence Jones and Doron Lamb - all complementary players to the makeup of the team.

Of course we had Anthony Davis and MKG, along with a competent point guard in Teague.

Davis and MKG were must gets in order to have a national championship team.

Then you look at the team Cal assembled with Karl Towns, Booker and the Harrison twins. Again, Towns was a must get player.

So my concern is - can Cal assemble a team like this if Duke is getting Bagley and Barrett, and the occasional key player like Bamba and Porter end up in no man's land? and we're passing on team cancers like Simmons (no, I do not want a player like Simmons), Yes we won the recruiting battle with Duke over Knox, but one player, even 2 players will give us a good team but not a national championship team especially if they aren't key players (the must gets).

So maybe we're saying the same thing but there has been a shift in the last 2-3 years, and Kentucky, while still an important and desirable destination - isn't the *only* destination for a talented kid with legitimate aspirations to be a one and done.

Its going to make me sick if Duke wins the national championship with a headcase in Allen and a group of uber talented Freshmen that 4 years ago would have all gone to UK.

And based on the recruiting trajectory for Duke, it doesn't look like its going to change in the short term. Now throw in that UNC has the monkey off its back and we have yet another player in the mix to grab someone. Don't think for a minute they aren't giving Wiliamson the full court press.

 

[Lovebaskelball]

Woulda, coulda, shoulda

 

[irishcat1965]

Don't lose to a rival three years in a row. Don't lose to a rival 2 of 3 (ucla). Pull it together or start playing more EKUs earl on. Going to turn into Izzo.

Coach K has lost three in a row to Miami. Does he need to get it going?

 

[caneintally]

Ugh.

Yes . exactly.

 

[GonzoCat90]

In discussions like these, just look around and see who agrees with you.

By the way, you could make the same awful point about Coach K. He's watched his main rival go to back to back title games, winning one, while he flamed out with the most talented team.

Bill Self keeps getting embarrassed in the NCAA tournament.

Izzo barely made the dance last year with a top 3 recruiting class and lots of experienced players returning in a weak Big 10.

Indiana is a dumpster fire.

Louisville is heading into oblivion.

You guys lack any and all perspective because you're still whining over a loss to Wisconsin. It's pitiful, but it's been a useful thread for the ignore feature. Some of you should have been there sooner.

 

[DelkBowl]

Coach K has lost three in a row to Miami. Does he need to get it going?

Of course. Best work is done under pressure. It's not a bad thing.