Cam passed up a couple wide open catch n shoot ops

SBP

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to try and drive and got stuffed on one , turned over the other. He did have one nice drive though…

He’s just gotta let it fly! That’s his game. That’s what he did against Wisconsin. Don’t think. Rhythm. Catch n shoot off screen . Period. He could have had another great game. He was open if only a split second. That’s all you get most nights.
 

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to try and drive and got stuffed on one , turned over the other. He did have one nice drive though…

He’s just gotta let it fly! That’s his game. That’s what he did against Wisconsin. Don’t think. Rhythm. Catch n shoot off screen . Period. He could have had another great game. He was open if only a split second. That’s all you get most nights.
I agree. He needs to be selfish and just shoot from the outside, especially when Pike doesn't seem to know how to draw up plays to get him open off of screens.
 
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Captain Hogleg

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The problem is Pike coaches “extra pass” and “get to the rim” ad nauseum. We pass up so many available shots it’s infuriating. If the shot is there; let it fly. Too often the extra passing is getting defended and it’s another empty possession. Get the damn shot off if you have an open look
 

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to try and drive and got stuffed on one , turned over the other. He did have one nice drive though…

He’s just gotta let it fly! That’s his game. That’s what he did against Wisconsin. Don’t think. Rhythm. Catch n shoot off screen . Period. He could have had another great game. He was open if only a split second. That’s all you get most nights.

Seems I’m just being a contrarian tonight but sorry I don’t agree with this one either. I know the moments you’re talking about but I don’t think cam really passed on it. There were a number of times when he was open for a split second when he got the ball but Michigan did a really good job of getting up on him VERY QUICKLY realsulting in cam, frankly, making the smart choice of passing or putting the ball on the floor (rather than chucking a contested shot)

I don’t as watching cam all night. We have seen him be tentative at times. I didn’t see that tonight. I think he wanted to be aggressive all night but I think Michigan did a great job on him. They put 0 (dug) on him a lot and that kid was as really fast and disruptive.

Bottom line - Honestly I think cam got off what he could without forcing.
 

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Seems I’m just being a contrarian tonight but sorry I don’t agree with this one either. I know the moments you’re talking about but I don’t think cam really passed on it. There were a number of times when he was open for a split second when he got the ball but Michigan did a really good job of getting up on him VERY QUICKLY realsulting in cam, frankly, making the smart choice of passing or putting the ball on the floor (rather than chucking a contested shot)

I don’t as watching cam all night. We have seen him be tentative at times. I didn’t see that tonight. I think he wanted to be aggressive all night but I think Michigan did a great job on him. They put 0 (dug) on him a lot and that kid was as really fast and disruptive.

Bottom line - Honestly I think cam got off what he could without forcing.
Agreed. Did not see him pass up anything that was wide open
 

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If we are going to struggle this much offensively, Cam needs to pull the trigger on some of these slightly contested 3's

Cam and Hyatt are really the only natural scorers on the team. We need at least one of them to be putting up solid numbers each game

Our margin for error offensively is so small right now
 

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Cam had one jumper when we were up 13-3 I think that went literally half way down and popped out. It felt like a bad omen at the time...
 
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If we are going to struggle this much offensively, Cam needs to pull the trigger on some of these slightly contested 3's

Cam and Hyatt are really the only natural scorers on the team. We need at least one of them to be putting up solid numbers each game

I agree

I was gonna say something similar in my post above

In my post above - I basically said that cam got off what he could without forcing. Bit I was going to add that, considering our offensive ineptitude, he just has to let it fly (I mean who the f$&k else is gonna score?!?!)

So I agree with you
 
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Hyatt in pre game was a sight to see hitting trey after trey. Then the lights came on and he **** the bed. His first 2 shots were atrocious. Then 2 missed FTs. Friends Of mine said he was pouting and thought he was being frozen out. I did notice either. All I know we needed Hyatt to step up and he was invisible
 

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Hyatt and Oscar 53 minutes 3 points

I mean let’s be honest….. oscar? Really?

Again, heard he’s a great kid. My sister (through her job) met him on some program RU basketball is involved and she absolutely fricken loves the kid - thinks he is just the most genuinely nicest kid.

But this is the Big10. That’s all I am going to say.
 

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Too many reasons why we lost tonight- just overall poor performance.
1. We had no one step up
2. Terrible passing creating turnovers. Just about everyone guilty
3. Free throws everyone was missing
4. Poor rebounding
5. Too slow vs Michigan
6. We didn’t adjust when they played Big Dick and Reed together. That’s when they pulled away.
7. Too many empty possessions
8. When they doubled teamed, we couldn’t find the free player. We got rattled with their defense.
And you could add more. Disappointing performance.
 
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Scangg

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Hyatt in pre game was a sight to see hitting trey after trey. Then the lights came on and he **** the bed. His first 2 shots were atrocious. Then 2 missed FTs. Friends Of mine said he was pouting and thought he was being frozen out. I did notice either. All I know we needed Hyatt to step up and he was invisible
Interesting. I think someone else just posted he was way way off in warmups
 

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He doesn't get wide open against athletes
That’s my entire point… he had a “Big 10” open look.. contested but there was a window…passed it up… again he did against Wisconsin and Purdue. Tonight I counted 3… and screamed “shoot!” Each time!
 
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there are at least 2x per game where he's 2-3 feet behind the line but well within his range. he's gotta shoot those, i don't care if early in the clock.
 

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We don’t take enough 3PA in general. Rarely have in Pikes tenure.

Pike is calling for mid range base line jumpers out of timeouts which is insanity in non end-game situations especially.
 
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bethlehemfan

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We don’t take enough 3PA in general. Rarely have in Pikes tenure.

Pike is calling for mid range base line jumpers out of timeouts which is insanity in non end-game situations especially.
We score on a very high percentage of those it seems and we are not a great three point shooting team and our guys need to be pretty wide open as opposed to having guys that can get those off in tight windows. We just don’t have that.
 

RUsojo

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We score on a very high percentage of those it seems and we are not a great three point shooting team and our guys need to be pretty wide open as opposed to having guys that can get those off in tight windows. We just don’t have that.
No we don’t.
 
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Seems I’m just being a contrarian tonight but sorry I don’t agree with this one either. I know the moments you’re talking about but I don’t think cam really passed on it. There were a number of times when he was open for a split second when he got the ball but Michigan did a really good job of getting up on him VERY QUICKLY realsulting in cam, frankly, making the smart choice of passing or putting the ball on the floor (rather than chucking a contested shot)

I don’t as watching cam all night. We have seen him be tentative at times. I didn’t see that tonight. I think he wanted to be aggressive all night but I think Michigan did a great job on him. They put 0 (dug) on him a lot and that kid was as really fast and disruptive.

Bottom line - Honestly I think cam got off what he could without forcing.
Agree. He passed up good looks in some other games.
 

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Interesting. I think someone else just posted he was way way off in warmups

Me …

Phil….he was way off in warms ups. There was one point where he snot four in a row from the corner thsr was waaay off

So far off that I’m like, does he now have a sholder injury ???
 
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Cam issue right now is he is a shooter right at the line

He needs to get in the weight room and get those legs stronger to get his range up

That would help him A LOT
 
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Hyatt in pre game was a sight to see hitting trey after trey. Then the lights came on and he **** the bed. His first 2 shots were atrocious. Then 2 missed FTs. Friends Of mine said he was pouting and thought he was being frozen out. I did notice either. All I know we needed Hyatt to step up and he was invisible
Hyatt shoots a line drive shot, and basically has to be in rhythm, and has to hit nothing but net, because if he gets any on the rim his shot will ricochet off the rim with no chance of going in. He has no margin for error, so if he doesn‘t get clean looks, he is not a good shooter.
 

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Me …

Phil….he was way off in warms ups. There was one point where he snot four in a row from the corner thsr was waaay off

So far off that I’m like, does he now have a sholder injury ???
I was watching his warmups fron the first time on the floor and he was nothing but net. Was there a few misses OF COURSE, but mostly bottom of the net
 

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He doesn't get wide open against athletes
You are such a drain on this message board....stick with rooting for PSU and get out of here

Cam needs to take more shots period...nothing to do with better athletes covering him. He gets tentative in shot selection and as someone else said just stop thinking and let it fly. Rather he take 10-15 shots over most of the other people on our team
 
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If we are going to struggle this much offensively, Cam needs to pull the trigger on some of these slightly contested 3's

Cam and Hyatt are really the only natural scorers on the team. We need at least one of them to be putting up solid numbers each game

Our margin for error offensively is so small right now
Cam is shooting 42% on 3's. If he takes 100 and hits 42, that's 126 points.
Someone would need to shoot 63% from 2 to score 126 points on 100 possessions

Our team 2pt percentages is 48%, that's 96 points per 100 twos
Cam needs to shoot 32% from 3 to equal that

If Cam (and Paul) start taking more 3's it makes us a more efficient offensive team and a BETTER team.
They hurt the team when they pass up 3's.
 

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You are such a drain on this message board....stick with rooting for PSU and get out of here

Cam needs to take more shots period...nothing to do with better athletes covering him. He gets tentative in shot selection and as someone else said just stop thinking and let it fly. Rather he take 10-15 shots over most of the other people on our team
A key mental component to being an elite offensive player is the capacity to miss shots and not have it impact your NEXT shot. We don't have anyone like that... YET
Shooters have to always think they're one shot away from getting hot.
 

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Cam is shooting 42% on 3's. If he takes 100 and hits 42, that's 126 points.
Someone would need to shoot 63% from 2 to score 126 points on 100 possessions

Our team 2pt percentages is 48%, that's 96 points per 100 twos
Cam needs to shoot 32% from 3 to equal that

If Cam (and Paul) start taking more 3's it makes us a more efficient offensive team and a BETTER team.
They hurt the team when they pass up 3's.
It’s basic. Can’t score if you don’t shoot. It’s that simple. Especially if that’s why you’re on the team. Cam passing up catch n shoots is not good. When you get that window, let it fly. Paul needs to stop pounding the air out of the ball then picking up his dribble
 
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Scangg

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Cam really seems like he must have been well coached growing up to not force bad shots and it's stuck in his head

But if I am him and I've seen how the rest of the team shoots... I am chucking every chance I get
 
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Can stunk

Not sure what game you watched .

Are you talking about the Michigan game?

Cam was fine - not stellar - but fine - he hardly “stunk”

I made a point of watching him and he was trying to be aggressive on offense all night but Michigan covered him TIGHT all game. He worked to get open - and when he did - he shot it - and shot decently. Didn’t force anything but took the opportunities he had .

Seriously don’t know what game you were watching

He had 11 points (on 5-12 shooting), 7 rebounds and 3 steals. 3 TOs. Again not stellar but hardly “stunk”

Btw, agree with others above that he needs to actually be a little selfish - and take the contested shots too - who else is gonna score?!!!
 
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