Can this team win 10 games next season?

*Bleedingblue*

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Here is a better way to look at it. If we are talking regular season, there are only 10 Power 5 teams and only 1 SEC team that won 10 games this year. This year, of those 10 teams, 9 finished the regular season ranked in the Top 10. If we are saying we are a 10 win team, you're basically saying we are a top 10 team next year. I would LOVE 8-4 next year, head to another good bowl and finish 9-4. I mean, Rich Brooks was a decent coach here, with some decent talent and never won more than 7 regular season games. You're talking a 3 game improvement over Brooks best season.


SEC east was prob the best league in the country back then. Not so much now
 
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I expect a special a special season next year. Would be disappointed with anything less than 8 wins. That's Stoops chance to truly silence the critics and earn another extension.
 

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It's interesting because our road schedule is weaker than our home schedule.

That said, we won 3 very close home conference games this year, that will each be road games next year.

I would suspect most of those hoping to be in Atlanta next December are already "banking" wins on the road over SC, MSU and Vandy (who beat UT and UGA, by the way).

I have watched too much Kentucky football to already be banking conference road wins 10 months in advance.

Best team since 2007? Yes.

Best team since 1977? Let's see.

I am excited, though.
 

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Will UK win 10 games in 2017...you're correct the odds are against it...but for the first time since the 70s they should fear no one on the schedule. It helps when you have one of the best RB Corps in the nation

IF Boom comes back...if not, we are still solid with Snell but big question marks with depth and
 

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Yes - it may take awhile before folks fully grasp how good this team will be next year
 

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His best bet would be to come back...fortunately for him not a lot of tread worn on his tire

Agreed...LOTS of good running backs comong out in front of him this year. Hopefully he sees that once he receives NFL feedback. People say he has nothing to lose because a running backs shelf life is limited, but that is actually justification to come back IF you think you move up several rounds in the following draft when you garner a bigger contract and more guaranteed money.

We shall see..
 
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Too soon to call wins for next season. The play in the bowl games is important and coaching continuity. Do we lose any important member from this year's staff?

Cats win the bowl and the D gets a near shut out with the staff remaining close to the same, I would believe in a 10 win season for next year.
I would think a w
Agreed...LOTS of good running backs comong out in front of him this year. Hopefully he sees that once he receives NFL feedback. People say he has nothing to lose because a running backs shelf life is limited, but that is actually justification to come back IF you think you move up several rounds in the following draft when you garner a bigger contract and more guaranteed money.

We shall see..
Will the Vanderbilt running back leave? I believe he is only a junior. That will be a huge loss for them.
 

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We have a pretty favorable schedule next season with exception of Florida and Tennessee
http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-17/2017-kentucky-wildcats-football-schedule.php

I think UK will be better next year, but I also think USC, and Georgia will be better. I am not sure about Vandy, if they can replace a couple of defenders and Webb they could be better too. Missouri could be in for a long year. I think UT drops off a good bit, they are losing about 90% of their offensive production and defensive stars. UF, who knows, they don't seem to be able to score points except against us and you guys.

UK, USC and UGA return alot of starters, we will return at least 8 defensive starters, on 1 sr and 2 others eligible to leave, and on offense we have 3 sr and top 2 RB eligible/and gone, so likely 6 starters, but won't have a true frosh at qb, and will be upgrading at WR. USC may return more defensive starters than us plus getting their best defender back after missing 16 with an injury and they have found their qb. UK will have to replace a couple of OL and possibly 1 RB but return much of their defense. I think UK, UGA and USC all beat UT next year, Vandy could also. I ain't predicting a win over UF for either of us but I think all 3 will be capable of beating them.. East will be pretty wide open, I think 4-5 teams will have to like their chances heading into the season. If we find a couple of OT by either signing a couple who can start or some of the younger guys develope I like ours alot.
 

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I would think a w

Will the Vanderbilt running back leave? I believe he is only a junior. That will be a huge loss for them.


I would be shocked if Webb left. I,think he averages around 4 yards a carry. He has a ton of heart and is a very good college back, but I just don't see him making the NFL

The bigger lose by far for Vandy will be Cunningham at LB if he leaves and you have to think he does. That guy is a stud that isn't easily replaceable at UF or UT much less Vandy. Their second best D player also graduates in Butler at DT. That D will be all seniors but takes a step back next year
 

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If they have one of those seasons where the stars align, I think they can. Aren't we due for that to happen?

Realistically I'm guessing we look at 7-9 wins. 6 would be a letdown after getting 7 this year, 7 would make us all content, 8 happy and 9 thrilled.

Actually, the stars aligned this year. MSU, South Carolina, Georgia and Vandy will all be better. Florida and UT better be better or else they will be part of next year's coaching carousel.
 
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Sec isnt weak..its just all teams are pretty good with 1 ELITE team. vandy can beat anyone. same with us . scar is looking better.. i meam hell ole miss was one of the two worst teams and gave bame its closest scare
 

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Actually, the stars aligned this year. MSU, South Carolina, Georgia and Vandy will all be better. Florida and UT better be better or else they will be part of next year's coaching carousel.
Not sure if Vandy will be better, but it will be at Vandy so it will be a hard game. UK will have at least half the stadium though.
 

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With the experiencr returning, it will be a huge let down if we dont at least get to nine, including a victory over florida/tennessee

As of today thinking 8-4 for the Wildcats...long grind ...you still have to address the lack of speed in the Front Seven of your defense
 
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Actually, the stars aligned this year. MSU, South Carolina, Georgia and Vandy will all be better. Florida and UT better be better or else they will be part of next year's coaching carousel.

Yes they will be better next season. But we will also be a whole lot better ourselves. Remove the first 2 games from our record and we are 7-3. Snell and Johnson were noticeably absent from those games. The whole offense and team changed when they started playing. We lose very little from this team. We gain some much needed depth from the red shirts and possible JUCO additions. With almost everyone returning they should be improved just from the added experience alone. The worst aspect of our game was punting hopefully he will get the mental block or whatever was causing his horrible play out of the way. If not we need a new and better punter that can flip the field.
 

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Yes they will be better next season. But we will also be a whole lot better ourselves. Remove the first 2 games from our record and we are 7-3. Snell and Johnson were noticeably absent from those games. The whole offense and team changed when they started playing. We lose very little from this team. We gain some much needed depth from the red shirts and possible JUCO additions. With almost everyone returning they should be improved just from the added experience alone. The worst aspect of our game was punting hopefully he will get the mental block or whatever was causing his horrible play out of the way. If not we need a new and better punter that can flip the field.

I always chuckle when someone says, take away this or that and we would be....

Did you forget the three games that UK essentially won on the last play of the game (vs 1 loss)? Those things have a way of evening out. I appreciate the optimism, but Stoops walked a fine line this year against a very favorable schedule. I would suggest you pump the brakes a bit.
 

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I doubt it. This team could win 10 but they could win 5. The SEC was very young this year. It'll be much tougher next year even without playing bama. How excited I will be based off of number of wins next regular season:
5 wins: far stoops
6 wins: *yawn *shrugs
7 wins: *golf claps
8 wins: *fist pumping
9 wins: *double fisting
10 wins: *jailed or hospitalized/still double fisting
You joke, but it's happened before. I highly recommend against googling this particular phenomenon.
 

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I doubt it. This team could win 10 but they could win 5. The SEC was very young this year. It'll be much tougher next year even without playing bama. How excited I will be based off of number of wins next regular season:
5 wins: far stoops
6 wins: *yawn *shrugs
7 wins: *golf claps
8 wins: *fist pumping
9 wins: *double fisting
10 wins: *jailed or hospitalized/still double fisting



The old iffin game, we've used it both ways but even the thought of maybe winning 9 games this year wasn't even in my brain but there we were, SM upsets us, and GA needed last second heroics to beat us. For those who predicted 9 this year if you're predicting 10 next year, I'm with you, lol.
 
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Anybody on here ever think they'd look at a UK football schedule and chalk Vandy up as one of a couple losses as opposed to one of a couple wins?

Seriously, I like our chances in every game and the trip to Nash could be a dog fight for the East because the dores have a favorable schedule as well outside of Bama.

UT and Florida both have LSU and Bama, gators have Aggies as well.
 
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I always chuckle when someone says, take away this or that and we would be....

Did you forget the three games that UK essentially won on the last play of the game (vs 1 loss)? Those things have a way of evening out. I appreciate the optimism, but Stoops walked a fine line this year against a very favorable schedule. I would suggest you pump the brakes a bit.

I would suggest you learn how to comprehend and understand what you read. My take this away was simply about our record with Johnson and Snell playing in the game. Not games we could have or should have won. The fact of the matter is with Johnson as our starting QB (main QB) this team is 7-3.
 

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Not really any way to know in college ball. Lamar Jackson was a lightning bolt for the Cards, no one knew Snell and Johnson would do anything, and few dreamed Alabama would run the table with a freshman quarterback.
Yep, Kentucky won seven. Lots of fans point to Georgia an Southern Miss and say should be nine. Some of us say yeah, but we were a flubbed Vandy end zone pass, a last gasp kick against Miss State and a freak of a fumble from the arguably best player in the nation from a four win season.
We ain't a great team or program, but this season gives a lot of promise.
Bowl eligible is my hope for next year, eight wins would be absolutely great.
 
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I can't believe as a Louisville guy I have a higher opinion of UK In 2017 in comparison to some in this thread. You guys return 19 out of 22 starters that have finally learned how to close out games...Kentucky won 7 out of the last 10 while playing in the SEC...If you beat Georgia Tech it would become 8-3 to close out in reality it should be 9-2-(y'all had Georgia beat). Point being if you win the Taxslayer Bowl don't be surprised if you enter 2017 in the Top 25...

UGA outgained UK by like 460-300 yards and had a mistake and a half for every mistake Uk had but we overcame ours - we were the better team that night and deserved the win. If you think they "had us beat" then you need to re-watch.
 

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UGA outgained UK by like 460-300 yards and had a mistake and a half for every mistake Uk had but we overcame ours - we were the better team that night and deserved the win. If you think they "had us beat" then you need to re-watch.

I watched the game and some missed opportunities for the Wildcats...especially in the 4th....but Georgia won in a tough football game.

What I was saying it was a game that Kentucky could have won...nothing more nothing less
 

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I don't think the schedule is as easy as some think. Our home games are much tougher next year (other than our gimmes) and we are on the road at Southern Miss. Winning At Vandy and at South Carolina who are also on upticks will be tough.

My early prediction will be 6 - 7 wins. The same as what I thought this year. Anything above that will be gravy.
On the road at Southern Miss will feel like a home game. I'll be there myself.
 
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Our offense is literally going to be ELITE.

Can our defense improve enough to make some stops is the question

I'm not ready to say it's elite just yet. Our offense is really good all the way around. With the potential to be elite. First Boom needs to return and we can't have a major drop off from Toth's replacement. Johnson needs to improve his short and intermediate passing. He needs to get a little bigger and stronger while maintaing speed and agility. The WRs have to be able to avoid drops in key situations and shake off drops when they do happen.

But the most important thing is making it through this year's coaching carousel with our offensive staff intact.
 
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In Brooks best year, we played 3 ranked SEC East teams:

#1 Florida
#23 Georgia
#25 Tennessee

This year we played:

#17 Florida
#21 Tennessee


In 2007 we finished 8-5

These are the rankings at the time we played each team on the schedule

#9 louisville
#11 south carolina
#1 lsu
#14 florida
#8 Georgia
#19 tennessee

This is where we were ranked during the year.
Kentucky 21,14,8,17,8,14,24,22

So during the 07 year the sec east had 5 teams ranked and during this time we did not have Missouri so that is pretty good when 83% of your division is ranked. Im pretty sure that didnt happen this year.
 
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In 2007 we finished 8-5

These are the rankings at the time we played each team on the schedule

#9 louisville
#11 south carolina
#1 lsu
#14 florida
#8 Georgia
#19 tennessee

This is where we were ranked during the year.
Kentucky 21,14,8,17,8,14,24,22

So during the 07 year the sec east had 5 teams ranked and during this time we did not have Missouri so that is pretty good when 83% of your division is ranked. Im pretty sure that didnt happen this year.
I was talking about the 2006 season, which was the most successful under Brooks. Also, using takings at the time you play a team is an incorrect measure of how good a team is imo, especially if you play them early in the season. UL was ranked 9th when we beat them but finished the season 6-6. South Carolina was 11th when we played them and also finished the season 6-6.

I will stand by original post that winning 10 games next year in the regular season is a very long shot.
 
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I'm not ready to say it's elite just yet. Our offense is really good all the way around. With the potential to be elite. First Boom needs to return and we can't have a major drop off from Toth's replacement. Johnson needs to improve his short and intermediate passing. He needs to get a little bigger and stronger while maintaing speed and agility. The WRs have to be able to avoid drops in key situations and shake off drops when they do happen.

But the most important thing is making it through this year's coaching carousel with our offensive staff intact.

Yes. Getting a little ahead of myself but I believe smith makes huge strides with an offseason of work and knowing he is the man for the job and the whole team has some urgency with a lot of the "why not"? Recruits being seniors.

I want Boom back but think we are okay with Snell handling 70% of carries and someone else backing him up.

Toth hurts but we have highly rated guys behind him. It's hard to replace experience though.

I believe it all comes down to smith(SJ) though. He must stay healthy, gain a little muscle as you said and he must must must put the intermediate routes across the middle at the top of his priority to improve list.


I was extremely optimistic going into 07 and I'm even more now so. I hope it happens because no fans deserve a winner more than U.K. Football fans. It's our turn. Hope our guys give the old timers a season they've been waiting on for quite some time. And I think they will. Would love to get some highly rated Juco defensive talent
 

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@ Southern Miss - W (Revenge Game)
vs. EKU - W
@ South Carolina - W
Florida - L (If we go 3-0 into this game, the stadium will be packed and we MAY upset them but until then I'll say loss)
Eastern Michigan - W
Missouri - W
@ Miss St - W
Tenn - L (toss up, Tenn will be without Dobbs for the first time in 4 years, another wait and see game but I'll say loss until)
Ole Miss - W (Ole Miss is under probation and are losing a lot this year and their recruiting class is last in the SEC, Shea Patterson is good though)
@ Vandy - W
@ Georgia - L (Another toss up game)
Louisville - W (WE OWN THIS STATE)

I don't see a game on this schedule, that we cannot win.
 

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I would suggest you learn how to comprehend and understand what you read. My take this away was simply about our record with Johnson and Snell playing in the game. Not games we could have or should have won. The fact of the matter is with Johnson as our starting QB (main QB) this team is 7-3.

Oh, I comprehended it alright. I can spot a basketball fan jumping on a football bandwagon any day.

Adios.
 
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Oh, I comprehended it alright. I can spot a basketball fan jumping on a football bandwagon any day.

Adios.

Well you see about as well as Ray Charles then. I've watch every football game and have for years. I prefer football over basketball any day. I watch more UK football game a year then I do basketball.
 

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Oh, I comprehended it alright. I can spot a basketball fan jumping on a football bandwagon any day.

Adios.
I can smell a football only fair weather fan when I see them too... If you can't support our teams at UK, then you won't support the football team when they're down... You're looking at a great basketball fan and proud of it... You're also looking at a great football fan to... Both of those teams are UK... Kentucky!!!
 
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