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Did you see that A&M/Miami game? Did that look like a game between two teams who should be playing for the title? And now they want to expand it to even worse teams in. Absurd.
I am fine with going to 16, as long as they are P4. As I indicated in the other thread you did on this topic, I am looking at it from what is best for Carolina football, not from a college football perspective. And as I stated in the other thread, opposing going to 16 would be like standing on a railroad track trying to stop a locomotive. 16 is inevitable.
 

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So simple - for once I totally agree with Herbie. Final CFP 1-16. Seed them. No byes(why does 4 deserve a bye and not 5 - ridiculous). No automatic bids. Conference championships should be irrelevant if you don`t finish in the top 16. Duke congrats - I`m sure they are very happy with that and a bowl game. Agree with a couple of earlier posters. Miami-A&M was very entertaining now I am typing this instead of watching any more of 2nd straight blowout. I think the committee maybe just wants to keep their jobs if they stick with this ridiculous system.
 

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So simple - for once I totally agree with Herbie. Final CFP 1-16. Seed them. No byes(why does 4 deserve a bye and not 5 - ridiculous). No automatic bids. Conference championships should be irrelevant if you don`t finish in the top 16. Duke congrats - I`m sure they are very happy with that and a bowl game. Agree with a couple of earlier posters. Miami-A&M was very entertaining now I am typing this instead of watching any more of 2nd straight blowout. I think the committee maybe just wants to keep their jobs if they stick with this ridiculous system.
I can see a time in the near future where the SEC and BIG decide to do a playoff between those 2 conferences and say bye if non-P4 teams are continued to be allowed to participate in the playoffs.
 
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The indictment is allowing non-P4 teams in, not expansion. The Miami-TAM game was fine if you like defensive games. JMU and Tulane had no business getting an invite.
Like the play in games in March madness with hoops, JMU and Tulane should’ve had a play in game at the very least. That would’ve been for the right to play notre dame/Vanderbilt imo.
 
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Like the play in games in March madness with hoops, JMU and Tulane should’ve had a play in game at the very least. That would’ve been for the right to play notre dame/Vanderbilt imo.
I am old enough to remember when the NCAA allowed only 16 teams to participate in the basketball "Big Dance". Does anyone think they will go back to 16? I have a better chance of being awarded $10 million from Elon Musk than the NCAA going back to 16. Money dictates everything. That is why a 16-team football playoff is inevitable. Some can complain forever. But they are wasting keystrokes.
 

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Like the play in games in March madness with hoops, JMU and Tulane should’ve had a play in game at the very least. That would’ve been for the right to play notre dame/Vanderbilt imo.
No. Such teams should be out unless a computer says they are one of the 12 best - or one day soon, one of the 16 best. That's the only way to redeem this mess that the czars have synthesized.
 

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I am old enough to remember when the NCAA allowed only 16 teams to participate in the basketball "Big Dance". Does anyone think they will go back to 16? I have a better chance of being awarded $10 million from Elon Musk than the NCAA going back to 16. Money dictates everything. That is why a 16-team football playoff is inevitable. Some can complain forever. But they are wasting keystrokes.
If you're going to pick them, then pick them correctly, irrespective of how many of them there are.
 
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Blowouts will happen regardless of how many teams. Happened in bowls, BCS title games, 4 team playoff. Two happened today in FCS semifinals.
IF JMU and/or Tulane would have won today that still wouldn’t have justified their inclusion. The regular season didn’t prove for either to be a top 12 team. Ole Miss had already bounced Tulane once in the regular season.
 
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I am old enough to remember when the NCAA allowed only 16 teams to participate in the basketball "Big Dance". Does anyone think they will go back to 16? I have a better chance of being awarded $10 million from Elon Musk than the NCAA going back to 16. Money dictates everything. That is why a 16-team football playoff is inevitable. Some can complain forever. But they are wasting keystrokes.
16 and more than 16 is inevitable
 

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It's not fixable.
Not enough parity for 16.
Still wind up with blowouts.

The FCS has the same issue every year.
They have 3-4 top teams, the rest get beaten like a drum.

Everyone wanted a play-off and this is what you get. It was predictable.
 

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I am fine with going to 16, as long as they are P4. As I indicated in the other thread you did on this topic, I am looking at it from what is best for Carolina football, not from a college football perspective. And as I stated in the other thread, opposing going to 16 would be like standing on a railroad track trying to stop a locomotive. 16 is inevitable.
Im going to wait and reply to his next post on this topic so it will have some replys
 

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All they had to do was look at the FCS and see what would happen. It was clearly predictable.
CFB was better when we had the BCS. Regular bowl games mattered.
I liked the BCS. Only stupid part was limiting participants from a conference at 2. That probably kept SC out of a BCS bowl in 2012 and/or ‘13. The playoffs, most seasons, have not provided a title games that the BCS would not have. The playoffs make more money I’m sure, but if the bowl system had a way of producing more revenue than playoffs it would be brought back tomorrow.
 
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2 too many teams
Wrong teams, not too many. If you had ND, Texas and Vandy playing today instead of JMU, Tulane and Miami, it would have been fine. Until they take the top 12-16 teams, regardless of conferences, they are not going to get it right.

I only caught the end of the A&M game. Very good ending.

Selfishly, more is better. I would prefer to watch a bad playoff game than a bowl with a ton of opt-outs. That said, i rarely watch the NFL. I turned the JMU and Tulane game to the NFL games prior to half-time.
 
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I do believe the G5 deserved their chance in the newly formed playoff. Bottom line is they got it and it's time to move on. They can have their own championship bracket. In fact they need separate AP polls as well. At no point should the two be combined from here on out. Playoff Rankings need to be done by AI (computer) with as much subjectivity taken out as possible. The committee has been horrible. I have never been less interested in what the experts think. Get rid of them.16 teams should be the goal. My biggest beef has and always will be byes. Get rid of them as well.
This I can live with.
 

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So we can watch Clemson go to the BCS while we don't even get a major bowl bid yet we beat them?
We should never left the Acc that’s on us. All I heard was once we joined the SEC the money would send us light years ahead of Clemson. Somebody lied.
 

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I am old enough to remember when the NCAA allowed only 16 teams to participate in the basketball "Big Dance". Does anyone think they will go back to 16? I have a better chance of being awarded $10 million from Elon Musk than the NCAA going back to 16. Money dictates everything. That is why a 16-team football playoff is inevitable. Some can complain forever. But they are wasting keystrokes.
So do they have opt outs/ and players entering the portal that effect the games in march madness? Curious I think it will continue to get worse in football
 

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So do they have opt outs/ and players entering the portal that effect the games in march madness? Curious I think it will continue to get worse in football
We all know that the NCAA has screwed the pooch when it comes to football. The timing of the playoffs (end of the semester) and the timing of the portal lends it's to opt-outs and players planning transfers. Also, you have a higher probability of injury in football.

If March Madness became late Dec. Madness, I am certain you would see a lot more portal guys. They need to make some major changes such as; portal date changes and coaches can't talk to other teams until the late January/early Feb. What happened at LSU and Ole Miss should never happen again.
 
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Blowouts will happen regardless of how many teams. Happened in bowls, BCS title games, 4 team playoff.
Sure, blowouts will happen, sometimes even between two elite teams, but what makes yesterday so egregious is that EVERYBODY knew the blowouts were going to happen.
 

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We should never left the Acc that’s on us. All I heard was once we joined the SEC the money would send us light years ahead of Clemson. Somebody lied.
So, since somebody made a mistake in the past, we will never make the playoffs, and we should be good with that?

Wrong answer!
 

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I am fine with going to 16, as long as they are P4. As I indicated in the other thread you did on this topic, I am looking at it from what is best for Carolina football, not from a college football perspective. And as I stated in the other thread, opposing going to 16 would be like standing on a railroad track trying to stop a locomotive. 16 is inevitable.
Then I think we will see 2 divisions and separate playoffs.
 

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Wrong teams, not too many. If you had ND, Texas and Vandy playing today instead of JMU, Tulane and Miami, it would have been fine. Until they take the top 12-16 teams, regardless of conferences, they are not going to get it right.

I only caught the end of the A&M game. Very good ending.

Selfishly, more is better. I would prefer to watch a bad playoff game than a bowl with a ton of opt-outs. That said, i rarely watch the NFL. I turned the JMU and Tulane game to the NFL games prior to half-time.
What are you talking about ? Texas was seriously overrated as we saw throughout the year, Miami just beat the #7 team, who was favored,on their home field, and ND ? Miami beat them head to head.
 
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No matter how you slice it, it was three completely crappy football games featuring teams that presumably are the best of the best. And it’s only going to get crappier with expansion.

But whatever. We are graduating kids from high school who can’t read at an elementary school level, so I guess it only fits with the rest of society.

The retards we graduated from high school are calling the shots for college football now.
 

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So, since somebody made a mistake in the past, we will never make the playoffs, and we should be good with that?

Wrong answer!
The problem we have is we are happy with being above average. That’s good enough for the powers that be. That’s why we will struggle to ever make the playoffs
 

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What are you talking about ? Texas was seriously overrated as we saw throughout the year, Miami just beat the #7 team, who was favored,on their home field, and ND ? Miami beat them head to head.
Miami beat them early. Teams progress or digress as the seasons play out. Take out Texas and insert another team. Bottom line, the best 12 best teams didn’t. make the playoffs.
 

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The problem we have is we are happy with being above average. That’s good enough for the powers that be. That’s why we will struggle to ever make the playoffs
Well were below average this year. And I agree, there are way too many who are happy with above average or even average.

However top 16 is more than above average in my book. Especially when you play in the SEC where all teams are usually above average.
 

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We should never left the Acc that’s on us. All I heard was once we joined the SEC the money would send us light years ahead of Clemson. Somebody lied.

The thought process here is only applicable if you believe joining the sec was about anything more than more money. Its all that matters to the university. As long as the money rolls in despite the on field results, why should they care?
 
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