Access it here: https://www.census.gov/data/tables/time-series/demo/popest/2020s-total-cities-and-towns.html#v2024
Then download the file in Excel.
Then download the file in Excel.
City & town population estimates released, July 2024 data
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I saw it earlier.
Southaven + Horn Lake + Olive Branch is just about as populous as Jackson. That's amazing to me.
And that's just the homicide victims....
Jackson lost 12k residents in 5 years.
Actually 4 years - April 2020 to July 2024.
Chart of Jackson population since 1850. Demographically, it's even more devastating. One group is down 50% since 2000.Jackson lost 12k residents in 5 years.
I’ll take Miami being smaller than Omaha as my “can you believe this shít” takeaway from this data.
Jurisdictional zoning can be a mind17.
Jurisdictional zoning can be a mind17.
would be interesting to see the number of murders per year on this graph. I can only find per capita from 1999 to 2018.
Jackson is actually having it's best year since 2016 so far. You'll have to do the math, but here:
Capitol Police having an impact. It will be interesting to see what the new mayor's impact will be.
doesn't really get me what i want. I'd like to see murder rate by year from say 1940 to 2025 and see how it correlates to population decline.
i'm glad the murder rate is getting better. I'd imagine if that continues to improve that people would start moving back as time progresses. I'm sure it will lag a lot.
I don't recall the source but in Malcolm Gladwell's book talking to strangers he references policing strategies in st louis and how they dropped the crime and murder rate significantly. Then magically that became racist.
Seems like they should try that in jackson. Basically it was 80% of the crime is committed on 20% of the streets. They used 80% of the police force on those 20% streets and there was a drastic reduction in murders.
They did the same thing in NYC and cleaned it up at one point too. But you're right, they can't do it today because it's "racist." Even if all the police chiefs and 85% of the forces are POCs.
I'm willing to also give the relatively new JPD chief a little credit as well. He's a publicity hound of the first order and craves the camera, but his leadership brought back several JPD officers who had bolted and reinvigorated that department. The new chief is also working behind the scenes with Capitol Police, so the cooperation has been a lot better. Getting rid of the black nationalist mayor is also a positive outcome.
Miami actually has a very small geographic footprint and they are constrained by surrounding towns and water. They can only grow vertically to add population.
If worse comes to worse, they could build levees, pump out the water and fill the empty space with dirt. The one thing the US has is plenty of dirt. Rather than building a wall just dig a big ditch between the US and Mexico, fill it with water and crocodiles and use the dirt to make Florida bigger. Sometimes you have to think outside the box and go big ****
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My comment was more related to the zoning of the municipalities in the area. The Miami MSA has 6.85 million people…..6th largest in the country, and larger than 31 of 50 entire states. The city of Miami is by far and away the largest city in the MSA, but it only has a population of 422,000. Imagine Los Angeles, Chicago, Houston, or Dallas only having 422,000 people. Its just highly irregular for such a huge MSA to be so decentralized.
Just some general observations:
We have 20 municipalities make the list.
Of those 20, 12 lost population from April 1, 2020 to July 2024.
Jackson was obviously the biggest loser on an absolute basis and second on a percentage basis.
Greenville was the biggest loser on a percentage basis and second on absolute basis.
Vicksburg was third worst on a percentage basis.
Biggest winner on a percentage basis was Oxford (4th on absolute basis)
Biggest winner on absolute basis was Southhaven (2nd on absolute basis)
Gulfport was second biggest grower on an absolute basis and 5th on a percentage basis.
Really surprised to see Gulfport growing and Biloxi shrinking. Would have thoughty they'd have similar trends most times.
Net total loss among those 20 municipalities was -1.67%, or 13,489 people.
For the Jackson MSA entities (which I would include Pearl, Brandon, Madison, Ridgeland, Clinton, and Jackson, total net loss was 11,188, for a 3.91% loss.
Just not a lot bright spots in the data. I'm assuming it's not quite as bad as it looks because a lot of those municipalities are probably having more growth either in unincporated areas (e.g., unincorporated areas of Madison county for Jackson MSA; unincorporated lamar county for Hattiesburg) or municipalities too small to show up (Ocean Springs and Bay St. Louis).
We have 20 municipalities make the list.
Of those 20, 12 lost population from April 1, 2020 to July 2024.
Jackson was obviously the biggest loser on an absolute basis and second on a percentage basis.
Greenville was the biggest loser on a percentage basis and second on absolute basis.
Vicksburg was third worst on a percentage basis.
Biggest winner on a percentage basis was Oxford (4th on absolute basis)
Biggest winner on absolute basis was Southhaven (2nd on absolute basis)
Gulfport was second biggest grower on an absolute basis and 5th on a percentage basis.
Really surprised to see Gulfport growing and Biloxi shrinking. Would have thoughty they'd have similar trends most times.
Net total loss among those 20 municipalities was -1.67%, or 13,489 people.
For the Jackson MSA entities (which I would include Pearl, Brandon, Madison, Ridgeland, Clinton, and Jackson, total net loss was 11,188, for a 3.91% loss.
Just not a lot bright spots in the data. I'm assuming it's not quite as bad as it looks because a lot of those municipalities are probably having more growth either in unincporated areas (e.g., unincorporated areas of Madison county for Jackson MSA; unincorporated lamar county for Hattiesburg) or municipalities too small to show up (Ocean Springs and Bay St. Louis).
Imagine you’ve got beachfront property in Florida and they just… add a ton more land between you and the water.
It sounds crazy but that’s more or less what happened to a lot of water front properties in Mississippi. Only ones that didn’t lose their land south of 90 weee the ones that had some sort of documentation or photographic evidence of what the land looked like before the seawall and/or manmade beach.
Yes, but yesterday's release by the Census Bureau was only for cities - population within city limits. County and metro populations were released in March.
A ton of dirt really isn’t that much. I had 20 tons of fill dirt dumped in my yard to level off some spots and fill stump holes. Can’t even tell it now. *****
It really is amazing to me how many people still compare city limits. About the only thing you can glean from that is if a metro really has a sustainable heartbeat.
I mean duh. But no one in their right mind would say Omaha has more people than Miami in a casual conversation. People reference metros.
Are those old numbers right? Surely Jackson’s population was higher than zero in 1850. It looks like it has it below 10,000 until after 1900
edit: I looked it up and it was that low, didn’t realize it was so small for so long after the Civil War
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And yet I-55 is still just 4 lanes from Goodman Rd south. I just shake my head.
Goodman road during rush hour is undriveable
When there is any kind of event at the Landers Center the traffic on 55 backs up almost to Stateline.