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myusernamesucks

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OLE MISS HAS TO SUSPEND PLAYERS FOR GAY SLURS

Published on: October 03, 2013
Written by: Clay Travis


Let's get right to the point here -- Ole Miss has to suspend every single football player who was involved in hurling gay slurs during a campus play about Matthew Shepard's murder.

Period.

I love the South, it's my home and always will be my home, but I hate stupid ignorance much more than I love the South.

And we have way too much stupid ignorance down here, always have.

Right now Ole Miss has to take a stand against stupid ignorance of all kinds and suspend the football players who interrupted a play about intolerance by behaving intolerantly. The school also needs a major wake-up call, I'd suggest a campus-wide examination of gay rights.

And if Ole Miss won't suspend these players then the SEC needs to do it.

Already people are tweeting me, "free speech," and asking why the "liberal media" cares so much about this story.

First, you idiots, learn how to make better arguments. You have the right to say or write anything in this country thanks to the first amendment. It's the single most important freedom we have. So you can type "your gay," to people you disagree with to your heart's content on Twitter and the government can't do anything to you. But what you don't have is freedom from consequences. Right now the government isn't arresting or investigating Ole Miss players for behaving like boorish idiots, the public is reacting with complete and total disgust to a story that shocks them.

Second, I'm not a member of the "liberal media," whatever that is. I'm about as middle of the road as it comes in the country. I'm anti-idiot and pro-markets, this means I can believe in evolution and support American industry. Shocker, I know. The reason this is a big story is for the same reason most stories become viral these days on the Internet -- because the story is shocking and people can't believe what they're reading. The rest of the country is in complete and total disbelief that Mississippi college students -- ostensibly the smartest, youngest and most cosmopolitan citizens of the Magnolia State -- would ever do something like this during a play about intolerance.

Per the article, which was receiving so much Internet traffic the entire website was unavailable for much of the morning:

According to the play’s director and theater faculty member Rory Ledbetter, some audience members used derogatory slurs like “***” and heckled both cast members and the characters they were portraying for their body types and sexual orientations. Ledbetter said the audience’s reactions included “borderline hate speech.”

“I am the only gay person on the cast,” junior theater major Garrison Gibbons said. “I played a gay character in the show, and to be ridiculed like that was something that really made me realize that some people at Ole Miss and in Mississippi still can’t accept me for who I am.”

It's not just hate speech, it's public hate speech in a university theater, hurled by the most famous members of the undergraduate student body. And it's not just one idiot, it's twenty, all acting together in a way that encourages stupidity to fester. This isn't a single individual's issue, it's a cultural one.

The rest of the country is completely and totally amazed that this could happen in 2013.

Just when you think the state of Mississippi and Ole Miss can't humiliate itself anymore, it goes and humiliates itself all over again.

You'd think a state that was so horribly wrong about racism, might be self-aware enough to see that it's repeating the same errors with gays.

You might think that, but you'd be wrong.

If the Onion had a headline, "Ole Miss students interrupt play about gay intolerance by hurling intolerant gay slurs," would you have thought it was too fafetched?

I would have.

Then last night happened.

It's not that I'm surprised many of my fellow Southerners are exceedingly homophobic, it's that college students at one of the state's flagship institution are too. These weren't slurs uttered in private by grandpas and grandmas, they were public assaults by people young enough to live in a multi-cultural society.

I spend a ton of time sticking up for the South, but here I've got no defense.

For some reason a decent segment of the Southern male population still feels like the biggest insult you can throw at another man is that he's gay.

Generally, if written, this insult is spelled, "your gay," and is accompanied by a Bible verse on a Twitter profile.

Rather than combat every idiot one at a time on Twitter and email, I've just co-opted their most stinging insult and raised them one level of "awfulness." Okay, I'm a gay Muslim. What else do you have for me? My hope was that by ridiculing the absurdity of an insult by accepting and embracing the absurdity of that insult and then raising it to another level, it might actually cause the idiots among us to think about how stupid they look. But then I see the first amendment and liberal media tweets and I just throw up my hands in disgust.

And stop hiding behind your religion too, "I don't hate the sinner, I hate the sin."

So being gay is a sin? So you really think gay people choose to be gay?

Is this real life?

Being gay isn't a sin because it's the way you're born.

But being stupid is a sin. Combat something you can actually control -- read a damn book.

Sadly, the only way to fight idiots is with punishments and consequences, not false and empty apologies.

That's why Ole Miss needs to take the right stand here and suspend every involved player from football this weekend. And if Hugh Freeze won't do it then Ole Miss chancellor Daniel Jones needs to act and if the chancellor won't act then SEC commissioner Mike Slive needs to act.

Every single football player involved in this incident needs to be suspended. And all non-athlete students who were involved should face severe sanction as well.

Ole Miss has rarely been on the forefront of social progress, but at least it can do the right thing here.

Otherwise, the past really is never past at Ole Miss.
 

coach66

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Surely Freezus won't tolerate this hatred

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coach66

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Quick, somebody call Jim Frasier at the Northside Sun, we have a scoop for him.

allbsasidethisprettyseriousstuff
 

MrHooch

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Clay Travis better be careful because he can't tell the difference between "your" and "you're"... it's fine (even encouraged) on certain message boards, but if YOU'RE claiming to be a journalist perhaps you should brush up on YOUR grammar.
 

missouridawg

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Clay Travis better be careful because he can't tell the difference between "your" and "you're"... it's fine (even encouraged) on certain message boards, but if YOU'RE claiming to be a journalist perhaps you should brush up on YOUR grammar.

Clay rants about the whole "you're vs your" thing a lot... He writes it as "your gay" in a sarcastic way.... Most of the time people write that about his tweets, they always misuse it by writing "your gay".
 

The Peeper

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"Ole Miss has rarely been on the forefront of social progress" That one line was worth reading the whole article. Saw that he also worked in "flagship" for them, that might keep a few of them off his case....
 

horshack.sixpack

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Wow. There is a lot not to like about the initial behavior as well as Travis' writing. So much wrong wrapped up in both...
 

engie

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Clay Travis better be careful because he can't tell the difference between "your" and "you're"... it's fine (even encouraged) on certain message boards, but if YOU'RE claiming to be a journalist perhaps you should brush up on YOUR grammar.

You're sarcasm meter is broken**

You may not agree with Travis -- but to question his journalistic intellect is misguided and ridiculous at best. The guy wrote a tremendously successful novel basically fresh out of college. How many people do you know that can say that?
 
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The act itself was childish and offensive. Does the student handbook address whether or not such baiting is prohibited or punishable? Didn't OM issue some sort of proclamation on the subject after the post election slur debacle?

On the other hand, my advice to him would be to avoid calling out other people on their religious beliefs just because you don't agree with them. Judeo/Christian and Muslim religious have been opposed to homosexuality as "a sin" for millennia. Calling them "stupid" because he obviously believes otherwise would be objectionable to many, and it detracts the focus from the more valid points he is trying to make.

And ease up a bit on the First Amendment too-- in a great big chunk of the world, male homosexuality (not so much female for whatever reason) is punishable by imprisonment--up to life, and is even punishable by death. And it's not all African, the Middle East and Asia-- in many Caribbean Islands it is an imprisonable offense. The First Amendment protects us all--equally.
 
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jakldawg

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Does the student handbook address whether or not such baiting is prohibited or punishable? Didn't OM issue some sort of proclamation on the subject after the post election slur debacle?

They have a Creeeeeeeed!

Oh, and right now, at this very minute, they're hosting a Racial Language Conference at Ole Miss. Because nothing addresses a problem like some good old-fashioned navel-gazing.

(waiting patiently for the armchair intelligentsia with their esoteric sig pics from The 'FOOM to weigh in now to tell us how we should feel)


Oh, and the first amendment pertains to the government not being allowed to pass laws telling you what you can't say. It doesn't mean you can act like an ******* in front of dozens of people and not be called out for it.
 
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DawgatAuburn

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The guy wrote a tremendously successful novel basically fresh out of college. How many people do you know that can say that?

Technically a novel is fiction and has a plot. Clay Travis wrote a successful book. Still impressive for a 27ish year old fresh out of law school, not undergrad.
 

ckDOG

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Dayum! Clay Travis bringing the heat...

I like it.
 

Xenomorph

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Were there any taunts of drilling that ole devil in the ***?

Was Curly Bill in attendance?

/seriously... Nothing will come of it unless video and audio surfaces.
 
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2001OleMiss

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I'm not justifying the action, but do you know a 19 year old male that doesn't use that word? When I played football in high school there wasn't a day that went by where a homosexual slur wasn't used. Travis defended Chris Boyd, so I find this a little hypocritical. Covering up a rape, ok? Saying a common homosexual slur is not?
 

Wicked Pissah

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Why would your whole football team use gay slurs?

And to answer your question, I cant think of a 19 year old that does use that word. I dont know many 19 year olds but the ones I do wouldnt say stuff like that. Why would anyone? What is the point?
 

ckDOG

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I don't know many 19 year old males, but I suspect there are millions...

that don't use the word. And for those that do, I'm sure the vast majority of realize that a play about homophobia is not the setting to make fun of homosexuals.
 

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I'm not justifying the action, but do you know a 19 year old male that doesn't use that word? When I played football in high school there wasn't a day that went by where a homosexual slur wasn't used.

You arent justifying it, you are just dismissing it.
 

mstateglfr

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Clay Travis better be careful because he can't tell the difference between "your" and "you're"... it's fine (even encouraged) on certain message boards, but if YOU'RE claiming to be a journalist perhaps you should brush up on YOUR grammar.

How you came away from the article thinking he doesnt know the difference is beyond me.
 

RebelAlumnus

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This kid is surprised that there are people who won't accept him for being gay? He's kidding, right? I'm actually pro-gay marriage, but he can't seriously believe that everyone is ever going to be OK with homosexuality, especially conservatives and almost the entire black community. This sheltered kid has a lot of learning to do about the real world.

As for the topic of what they did, it's terrible. Even if you think those things, you don't say them in public (unless you're a comedian), and you certainly don't do it during a production like this. One side of me says suspend their asses and put them 3rd on the depth chart at every position and make them earn their way back, the other side of me says run their asses ragged, make them do volunteer work for the theatre, and maybe some kind of fundraiser for the drama program, or whatever they are, in conjunction with the football program.
 

msstate7

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Espn was very much pro-gay when Jason Collins came out if the closet. Wonder if they'll drop OM now after the lovefest they've shown so far. Wonder how freeze addresses this matter. If he uses the conservative Christian stance, freeze could commit career suicide.
 

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I'm not justifying the action, but do you know a 19 year old male that doesn't use that word? When I played football in high school there wasn't a day that went by where a homosexual slur wasn't used. Saying a common homosexual slur is not?

Big *** difference between slurring friends in a closed environment(and I don't care WHAT kind of slur it is -- as long as it doesn't offend them) -- and slurring/offending perfect strangers in a public environment.

The fact that you even try to connect these two actions is laughable at best.
 

RocketDawg

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I recently read an article that said Matthew Shepard's beating/murder had nothing to do with him being gay, but rather was a drug deal gone bad. As I recall, it referenced somebody who was close to the case. Don't remember the details, where I saw it, or who the writer was.
 

Wicked Pissah

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Wonder what would happen if the football team acted in a school play called roots and all the gay students showed up and started calling them racial slurs?

Think those students would be suspended? A la crunchy mike?
 

msstate7

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Wonder what would happen if the football team acted in a school play called roots and all the gay students showed up and started calling them racial slurs?

Think those students would be suspended? A la crunchy mike?
Ask the OM frat boy. He should have good insight
 

engie

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Espn was very much pro-gay when Jason Collins came out if the closet. Wonder if they'll drop OM now after the lovefest they've shown so far. Wonder how freeze addresses this matter. If he uses the conservative Christian stance, freeze could commit career suicide.

The bottom line is that it's another HUGE black eye -- in a long series of black eyes -- that reflects badly on EVERYONE in Mississippi, including our beloved university, which half the country can't tell apart from Ole Miss and it's a HUGE story right now. The ESPNcfb app just pushed me a notification talking about it. That means it is a huge, national ordeal.

I'm appalled by it -- and I wish it wouldn't have happened in MS. It's going to get worse before it gets better -- and it will be a MIRACLE if videos don't surface and go viral everywhere...
 

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This is 'merica. You cannot even remotely disagree with anyone in a "protected class" for fear of being treated with hate, prejudice and bigotry while being hated, prejudged and discriminated against by your very accusers. I suspect that these kids would've disrupted any play that they were forced to sit through and used whatever words most made fun of the participants. In this case, it happened to be about homosexuals so they used the easy insults. I doubt that it is due to any intense hatred for gays or homophobia (but I could be wrong), likely just the easiest way to disrupt. They will now feel the wrath of execution by the politically correct crowd. They should be punished in whatever way anybody would be punished for disrupting a play at Ole Miss. Nothing more. Nothing less. Welcome to the United States of the Offended.
 
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"Creed Week"?? You've got to be kidding me.

In regard to the First Amendment-- he seemed to be suggesting that people were hiding behind it, and it therefore offered an opportunity for "free speech" to verbally injure others-- that unlike the nursery rhyme "words actually do hurt me." My point was that in other countries, instead of being allowed (by the First Amendment) to hurt with words, they get to use "sticks and stones" to break your bones. Literally...

Calling someone out for being an ******* is another example of the freedom afforded by the First Amendment.
 

horshack.sixpack

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You mean that the people fighting the good fight would take advantage of a situation and use the death of a gay drug dealer to promote their agenda, which then got turned into a play that further propagated the lie that he was killed just because he was gay, and at that play football players insulted the actor in the play (who happens to be gay and probably believes the false story), which brought them under the scrutiny of the politically correct for making fun of a guy who was not actually killed for being gay, but actually for being mixed up in the drug trade? I think that in the good ole US of A of today, we can clearly pin the blame on the original liars who promoted this as a "hate crime" to fit their agenda. They should be punished for leading these football players down the path of deceit...but drug deals gone bad don't garner much media attention or sympathy for the agenda...
 
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What would happen if gay students started calling black football players the n-word? They'd get their asses whipped is what would happen.
 
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