CMC intro presser. Things to know..

[Itraindogs]

We are going to lose portal players too. Trading psu players and recruits for iowa state players and recruits is a step backwards.

The first year with a new coach usually is a recruiting bump. We are going to miss that.

The disaster you were all talking about last week didn't suddenly go away. We lost 25 commits. Everyone else can still add players too. We are not making up.the loss anytime soon.

Dollars heal many ills. Its not as if those controlling the purse strings are unaware of this. 1. Players committed to PSU and flipped to another school, signed early, can enter the transfer portal in January and return if they feel its a fit. I suspect Terry will be reaching out to many of them. 2. There will be many players entering the portal and the new GM seems to understand talent evaluation and acquisition and backed by money should be able to create a stop gap until the recruiting numbers and quality normalize (improve?). 3. Schedule next year is dog sh*t so even an average squad will be competitive.

 

[Catch1lion]

He did say it though yesterday. I was like, woah.

Part of honoring the past.

 

[VT00]

Last 6 years he is 4-2.

That is wrong.

 

[razpsu]

Grew up in PA, . Says all the right things to make the hair on the back of your neck stand up. His grand father was a coal miner , and was a PSU fan.

That was a stretch. He said he was taking over for guys like Franklin and O’Brien with no mention of Paterno.
Later someone asked about Paterno and Penn state did he ever come etc. he said, no. Then at the end tied in his grandparents to psu and Paterno.

 

[CyphaPSU]

That was a stretch. He said he was taking over for guys like Franklin and O’Brien with no mention of Paterno.
Later someone asked about Paterno and Penn state did he ever come etc. he said, no. Then at the end tied in his grandparents to psu and Paterno.

I have no desire to start an argument, but merely point out a fact that will help with context here. Campbell first mentioned Paterno very early in his presser (in the third paragraph, see below), and then again during Q&A.

To, man, spending so much of my childhood in Carmichaels, Pennsylvania. My great-grandfather who worked in the coal mines, my grandparents who worked in Carmichaels, Pennsylvania, and all you heard around these family discussions was Coach [Joe] Paterno and the toughness and the character of the Penn State football program.

Source

Regardless, he left a very good first impression in my view.

 

[Dbsteel]

They should have hired the best available BEFORE signing day.

It will take 5 years to recover from the recruiting loss.

It doesn't take 5 years. They could still sign a few, flip a few, and hit the portal a little harder to build a class. Plus we got a QB. And next year they can have a huge class. I don't think its the end of the world. It might be a blip but not that big of one.

 

[Moogy]

I disagree…it’s a big deal and he felt it as a big deal. He was changing his whole life and his family’s life. Moving your kids away from their lives , especially at the age his kids are, is a difficult thing especially if they’re doing it just for your dreams. Then throw in his feelings toward ISU, that makes it difficult.

No one said he doesn't have a "right" to feel emotional, or that this wasn't hard ... it's about how you act in public, during a presser. Hopefully we've all seen enough human interaction and actions during press conferences to have gotten used to the normal behavior, given emotional situations. And we can all hopefully identify outlier actions ... whether it's Dick Vermeil crying all the time, Dan Campbell getting all worked up, Bill Belichick always slipping into a disinterested coma, when he's not belittling someone, etc. Absolutely there were times during the press conference when he was recounting things when you'd think "OK, that might get him choked up to think and talk about in the moment" ... and then there were times when it didn't seem called for, but he was still getting there.

I like the guy, initially and overall ... I just hope he doesn't whimper too much going forward.

 

[LMTLION]

We are going to lose portal players too. Trading psu players and recruits for iowa state players and recruits is a step backwards.

The first year with a new coach usually is a recruiting bump. We are going to miss that.

The disaster you were all talking about last week didn't suddenly go away. We lost 25 commits. Everyone else can still add players too. We are not making up.the loss anytime soon.

The recruiting class was a major loss and casualty of the process, but signing day is no longer binding and the impact will not be what you think. In January I have no doubt we will get double digit number of true freshman/recruits for 2026 from the portal and remaining unsigned folks. PSU donors opened the wallets and Campbell has $30m NIL war chest to use. All will be well.

 

[razpsu]

The recruiting class was a major loss and casualty of the process, but signing day is no longer binding and the impact will not be what you think. In January I have no doubt we will get double digit number of true freshman/recruits for 2026 from the portal and remaining unsigned folks. PSU donors opened the wallets and Campbell has $30m NIL war chest to use. All will be well.

Seriously all we have to bring in is a min of 10 guys. How many freshmen played or actually made an impact this year. 27 he can have a good recruiting class and get more portal players to even the ground on this recruiting class. People made to much of a big deal and threw tantrums on recruits going to va tech etc.

 

[laKavosiey-st lion]

I think where someone grows up, who his grand pop rooted for, what his family does for a living has ZERO to do with why you hire someone. Why do these things matter so much to State fans?
”he’s one of us”.

No bro, he’s a 1%er x 5, not like you at all.

 

[WaffleShopper]

Im just glad to not hear about 1st down battles, penalty battles, explosive play battles. I swear, we would lose our usual big game by a point and he’s start in on all the battle crap. I feel like that weirdness played some factor in them never getting over the hump.

I’m looking forward to our coach actually answering technical football questions instead of saying “we’ll have to look at the tape” because he doesn’t know the answer.

 

[Alphalion75]

Trivia question, since you mention Paterno "making Penn State a blue blood":

Of the 3 Head Coaches that preceded Paterno and also coached more than 1 season (so we're not counting Joe Bedenk), how many of THEM are members of the College Football Hall of Fame?

I believe Rip Engle is in the HOF.

 

[Catch1lion]

I think where someone grows up, who his grand pop rooted for, what his family does for a living has ZERO to do with why you hire someone. Why do these things matter so much to State fans?
”he’s one of us”.

No bro, he’s a 1%er x 5, not like you at all.

Terry Smith connected with the blue collar roots .

 

[84lion]

I believe Rip Engle is in the HOF.

Yup, inducted in 1973 per Wikipedia

 

[Bison13]

I think where someone grows up, who his grand pop rooted for, what his family does for a living has ZERO to do with why you hire someone. Why do these things matter so much to State fans?
”he’s one of us”.

No bro, he’s a 1%er x 5, not like you at all.

It's a shame that where you grew up there was no sense of community and work ethic and being proud of where you were from

 

[Alphalion75]

I think where someone grows up, who his grand pop rooted for, what his family does for a living has ZERO to do with why you hire someone. Why do these things matter so much to State fans?
”he’s one of us”.

No bro, he’s a 1%er x 5, not like you at all.

You're right. However, I like the idea of the coach having some ties to the area for his and his family's benefit. On a personal level It certainly can be a plus if the coach and his family are closer to relatives and friends. And Coach Campbell was very clear that his decision boiled down to personal aspects.

 

[rigi19040]

B.

It doesn't take 5 years. They could still sign a few, flip a few, and hit the portal a little harder to build a class. Plus we got a QB. And next year they can have a huge class. I don't think its the end of the world. It might be a blip but not that big of one.

Getting a QB does not help if we end up losing the better qb.

A huge class has problems. They can't all start. Teams want players staggered by year. If the players are all the same year then there is no path to start for the backup and they transfer. Ex. 1st string Sr, 2nd jr, 3rd sophomore, 4th freshman

 

[rigi19040]

Indiana says hi.

Weak example.

Indiana did not lose their entire recruiting class. One player decommitted before cignetti was hired. A few others flipped afte4 cignetti was hired.. Cignetti then pushed a few out. They lost 8 total. Indiana signed 17 recruits and had 31 transfer in. 48 total. Psu has 2 so far.

 

[Big_O]

You're right. However, I like the idea of the coach having some ties to the area for his and his family's benefit. On a personal level It certainly can be a plus if the coach and his family are closer to relatives and friends. And Coach Campbell was very clear that his decision boiled down to personal aspects.

Yes, he mentioned it in the press conference. He stated it was good to be 2 and a half hours away from his family. Actually, it is more like 3 and a half to four hours since I used to make that drive many times from the Akron-Canton area years ago. But it is less than a half day drive to his relatives and that is a good thing for his own family and him.

 

[84lion]

Getting a QB does not help if we end up losing the better qb.

A huge class has problems. They can't all start. Teams want players staggered by year. If the players are all the same year then there is no path to start for the backup and they transfer. Ex. 1st string Sr, 2nd jr, 3rd sophomore, 4th freshman

Some people seem determined to find a dark cloud in a silver lining.

 

[Grant Green]

I LOVE the F word so wut? C one too

Me too. I’m talking about when someone uses it every sentence or two like Kraft in the recording. I met you and you definitely didn’t over use.

 

[Catch1lion]

Audrey says Campbell doesn’t have an agent . No agent fee to Jabba the Sexton is a plus .

 

[JoePaMajorCFBrecord409Ws]

Seriously all we have to bring in is a min of 10 guys. How many freshmen played or actually made an impact this year. 27 he can have a good recruiting class and get more portal players to even the ground on this recruiting class. People made to much of a big deal and threw tantrums on recruits going to va tech etc.

He alao addressed this topic in Presser.... he's bringing his GM from ISU. Went into great detail how he and his GM had to build a nationwide network that could scout not just HS and FBS/CFS, but all levels of CFB, because ISU didn't have the ability to bring in elite recruiting classes and internally develop everything they needed - they had to become better talent evaluators and have a better scouting network than the top of P4 Universe who can simply take the cream off the top and don't need to dig deeper - they had to be able to uncover unrealized potential and heretofore "hidden talent".... Went into how their scouting network was more developed and nationwide because they had to build it themselves as ISU (nor the top of the P4 universe have such sophisticated nationwide networks - ISU because the Athletic Department just isn't that big and the top of the P4 Universe because they never have to really dig deeper than the "identified" cream-of-the-crop universe)....

Anyway, he went into how he's bringing his GM and that National scouting network over.... how ISU has annually had to use the X-fer Portal because ISU doesn't have the gravitational pull to just rely on HS recruiting and internal development... so they're used to going into the Portal with defined needs for the upcoming year and find what they need.... that ISU was very successful at that year-over-year and named players.... said he was confident that he could get what he needed for 2026 with his GM and network in place at PSU.... etc, etc, etc....

 

[laKavosiey-st lion]

It's a shame that where you grew up there was no sense of community and work ethic and being proud of where you were from

Bro I’m not talking about my family (just spent Sunday with them in Lancaster) I’m talking about a huge corporation using touchie feelie nonsense in their hiring a ceo decision making
‘an obvious point I thought.
and there’s no shame in my family, we’re killing it top to bottom all over the country

 

[laKavosiey-st lion]

Me too. I’m talking about when someone uses it every sentence or two like Kraft in the recording. I met you and you definitely didn’t over use.

But I wanted to.

 

[doctornick]

It doesn't take 5 years. They could still sign a few, flip a few, and hit the portal a little harder to build a class. Plus we got a QB. And next year they can have a huge class. I don't think its the end of the world. It might be a blip but not that big of one.

Yeah. In the olden days it wasn't that uncommon to have classes ~10 people and a school could do fine. Between possible flips from Iowa St, later signing period signees and the 2 we have, we could get to around that number plus supplementing with a bunch of portal players. I'm not expecting us to be great in 2026 necessarily, but I think we should be fine for 2027 and beyond depending on how the rest of this off-season goes.

 

[rigi19040]

Dollars heal many ills.

Agree on the money.

I would actually want all the recruiters to take a class in finance and sell the players on long term capital gaines. Example: an extra 25k in nil does not sound that great. Pitch it as an extra 25k x 5 yr of college invested at 12% will be worth $12 MILLION at retirement.

 

[doctornick]

You're right. However, I like the idea of the coach having some ties to the area for his and his family's benefit. On a personal level It certainly can be a plus if the coach and his family are closer to relatives and friends. And Coach Campbell was very clear that his decision boiled down to personal aspects.

There's little doubt in my mind that proximity to where he grew up and general family ties to the region was a big part in why he chose this job when other jobs in the past were turned down. I think that having some relatively local roots is a good thing in terms of a developing a connection to the school and the job. We'll see how much it impacts anything going forward though.

 

[OUIrPSU]

Weak example.

Indiana did not lose their entire recruiting class. One player decommitted before cignetti was hired. A few others flipped afte4 cignetti was hired.. Cignetti then pushed a few out. They lost 8 total. Indiana signed 17 recruits and had 31 transfer in. 48 total. Psu has 2 so far.

OK. The Texas Tech defense says hi.

Get my point?

 

[PSUFTG]

PSU donors opened the wallets and Campbell has $30m NIL war chest to use. All will be well.

 

[PSUFTG]

And Coach Campbell was very clear that his decision boiled down to personal aspects.

Yep. 80 Million of them

 

[Connorpozlee]

Yep. 80 Million of them

He surely could have gotten the same amount at other schools this year. Or in the past.

 

[StamfordBridgeVikingatLeftOffensiveTackle]

Yep. 80 Million of them

Good for him and his family. Way to go Coach Campbell! That's making a crust.

 

[Alphalion75]

Some people seem determined to find a dark cloud in a silver lining.

There are many Charlie Browns in the world. I can't imagine living that way.

 

[rigi19040]

OK. The Texas Tech defense says hi.

Get my point?

Again, Texas tech didn't lose a recruiting class. Get my point?


Texas tech also has way more money. They have three former players who matched our nil over lunch.

 

[JoePaMajorCFBrecord409Ws]

I believe Rip Engle is in the HOF.

PSU has 6 former Head Coaches in CFB HoF:

Bill Hollenbach (1909, 1911-1914), 28-9-4 .732 (PSU has a claim to both the 1911 and 1912 National Championships)


Dick Harlow (1915-1917) 20-8-0 .714


Hugo Bezdek (1918-1929) 60-30-11 .665


Bob Higgins (1930-1948) 91-57-11 .610


Rip Engle (1950-1965) 104-48-4 .680


Joe Paterno (1966-2011) 409-136-3 .750

Those who claim that PSU was not a National Profile program prior to JVP are full of it (Brown was a top 10 program when Rip Engle left there for PSU in 1950 - immediately offering his just graduated QB an Asst job). PSU played in the 1923 Rose Bowl under Hugo Bezdek.

 

[Bison13]

Bro I’m not talking about my family (just spent Sunday with them in Lancaster) I’m talking about a huge corporation using touchie feelie nonsense in their hiring a ceo decision making
‘an obvious point I thought.
and there’s no shame in my family, we’re killing it top to bottom all over the country

Where he grew up was not part of the hiring consideration by PSU at all. It was part of his rationale for picking PSU though, completely different than what you stated in the earlier post.

 

[Bison13]

Yes, he mentioned it in the press conference. He stated it was good to be 2 and a half hours away from his family. Actually, it is more like 3 and a half to four hours since I used to make that drive many times from the Akron-Canton area years ago. But it is less than a half day drive to his relatives and that is a good thing for his own family and him.

I think he was referencing Carmichaels PA. I can get from there to the Stadium in just under 2 and a half hours as long as I dont get behind a Prius. haha

 

[step.eng69]

That makes sense. That’s why it’s called a “tooth” brush, not teeth brush.

Yes. That’s the joke.

Ya know what I mean Vern...

 

[laKavosiey-st lion]

Where he grew up was not part of the hiring consideration by PSU at all. It was part of his rationale for picking PSU though, completely different than what you stated in the earlier post.

His wanting to come home is fine. State hiring him cause he’s from around here is not fine.