CMC intro presser. Things to know..

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Bro I’m not talking about my family (just spent Sunday with them in Lancaster) I’m talking about a huge corporation using touchie feelie nonsense in their hiring a ceo decision making
‘an obvious point I thought.
and there’s no shame in my family, we’re killing it top to bottom all over the country

PSU is not a "corporation" - it's a NFP Public Higher Educational and Research Institution. Culture and Values are the foundation of such Institutions as clearly stated in PSU's Founding "Land Grant Institution" Charter clearly states. You're such a putz and loudmouth for somebody who doesn't know $h1t about PSU or it's Founding Charter. A State-Sponsored "Federal Land Grant" Institution of Higher Education is nothing like a for profit Fortune 500 Company moron - vastly different goals, objectives, values, culture, etc.... - so why don't you just STFU and stop trying to lecture us about stuff you know squat about.
 
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PSU has 6 former Head Coaches in CFB HoF:

Bill Hollenbach (1909, 1911-1914), 28-9-4 .732 (PSU has a claim to both the 1911 and 1912 National Championships)


Dick Harlow (1915-1917) 20-8-0 .714


Hugo Bezdek (1918-1929) 60-30-11 .665


Bob Higgins (1930-1948) 91-57-11 .610


Rip Engle (1950-1965) 104-48-4 .680


Joe Paterno (1966-2011) 409-136-3 .750

Those who claim that PSU was not a National Profile program prior to JVP are full of it (Brown was a top 10 program when Rip Engle left there for PSU in 1950 - immediately offering his just graduated QB an Asst job). PSU played in the 1923 Rose Bowl under Hugo Bezdek.

IOW, 100% of PSU's Head Coaches from1909 through JVP are in the College Football Hall Of Fame. Just laughable to claim that PSU had no real football tradition prior to JVP - utterly laughable and grossly incorrect.
 

razpsu

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He alao addressed this topic in Presser.... he's bringing his GM from ISU. Went into great detail how he and his GM had to build a nationwide network that could scout not just HS and FBS/CFS, but all levels of CFB, because ISU didn't have the ability to bring in elite recruiting classes and internally develop everything they needed - they had to become better talent evaluators and have a better scouting network than the top of P4 Universe who can simply take the cream off the top and don't need to dig deeper - they had to be able to uncover unrealized potential and heretofore "hidden talent".... Went into how their scouting network was more developed and nationwide because they had to build it themselves as ISU (nor the top of the P4 universe have such sophisticated nationwide networks - ISU because the Athletic Department just isn't that big and the top of the P4 Universe because they never have to really dig deeper than the "identified" cream-of-the-crop universe)....

Anyway, he went into how he's bringing his GM and that National scouting network over.... how ISU has annually had to use the X-fer Portal because ISU doesn't have the gravitational pull to just rely on HS recruiting and internal development... so they're used to going into the Portal with defined needs for the upcoming year and find what they need.... that ISU was very successful at that year-over-year and named players.... said he was confident that he could get what he needed for 2026 with his GM and network in place at PSU.... etc, etc, etc....
Yea so they are ahead of most everyone on that. I’m sure they already had people identified.
 
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Bro I’m not talking about my family (just spent Sunday with them in Lancaster) I’m talking about a huge corporation using touchie feelie nonsense in their hiring a ceo decision making
‘an obvious point I thought.
and there’s no shame in my family, we’re killing it top to bottom all over the country

CMC also talked about how he viewed his job and responsibilities.... and that those went well beyond just trying to win football games - that he viewed "winning" as a result, not an input... winning results from the proper process... a process that he teaches his kids they should bring to everything they do in life... that you should dedicate yourself via effort and determination to achieve your goals the right way... not to take shortcuts, but rather put the work in and trust the process.... Referenced that he teaches them to bring this winning attitude to everything they do in life and referenced that 90% of his ISU roster maintained a gpa of 3.0 or higher... and 60% of that group maintained a gpa of 3.5 or higher... said that culturally PSU has historically stood for the exact same values he does and this was a big part of his decision....

But I guess this doesn't matter because you say it doesn't - when did CMC empower you to start speaking for him and what values he believes are important to winning???
 
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PSU is not a "corporation" - it's a NFP Public Higher Educational and Research Institution. Culture and Values are the foundation of such Institutions as clearly stated in PSU's Founding "Land Grant Institution" Charter clearly states. You're such a putz and loudmouth for somebody who doesn't know $h1t about PSU or its Founding Charter. A State-Sponsored "Federal Land Grant" Institution of Higher Education is nothing like a for profit Fortune 500 Company moron - vastly different goals, objectives, values, culture, etc.... - so why don't you just STFU and stop trying to lecture us about stuff you know squat about.
Corporations goal is to make money. PSU Footballs goal is to make money. Land Grant schit? FFS 409 bro lol
 
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That is - most certainly - NOT how they operate
So State football corporate profits aren’t part of the budget? Do bosses predict football profits so they can disperse the profits around the company and do these bosses make plans to increase profits (stadium renovation)
What am I missing here?
The reasons 409 life/with honor/grad rates no longer matter are:
Our backup QB plays for Missouri
15 had one class this semester (remote)
15 drives a car $15k more expensive than me
Parking passes for big games are $1000
Opting out of bowl games (I agree with doing this)
Feels corporate
 
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I like Josh Pate. I think he’s typically fair across the board of his praises and his critiques. Having him acknowledge this as a great hire is pleasing to hear!
First time I listened to any of the sports podcasters, my wife recommended Josh Pate & Landon Tengwall
 

Alphalion75

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PSU has 6 former Head Coaches in CFB HoF:

Bill Hollenbach (1909, 1911-1914), 28-9-4 .732 (PSU has a claim to both the 1911 and 1912 National Championships)


Dick Harlow (1915-1917) 20-8-0 .714


Hugo Bezdek (1918-1929) 60-30-11 .665


Bob Higgins (1930-1948) 91-57-11 .610


Rip Engle (1950-1965) 104-48-4 .680


Joe Paterno (1966-2011) 409-136-3 .750

Those who claim that PSU was not a National Profile program prior to JVP are full of it (Brown was a top 10 program when Rip Engle left there for PSU in 1950 - immediately offering his just graduated QB an Asst job). PSU played in the 1923 Rose Bowl under Hugo Bezdek.
Excellent.
 

Alphalion75

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PSU has 6 former Head Coaches in CFB HoF:

Bill Hollenbach (1909, 1911-1914), 28-9-4 .732 (PSU has a claim to both the 1911 and 1912 National Championships)


Dick Harlow (1915-1917) 20-8-0 .714


Hugo Bezdek (1918-1929) 60-30-11 .665


Bob Higgins (1930-1948) 91-57-11 .610


Rip Engle (1950-1965) 104-48-4 .680


Joe Paterno (1966-2011) 409-136-3 .750

Those who claim that PSU was not a National Profile program prior to JVP are full of it (Brown was a top 10 program when Rip Engle left there for PSU in 1950 - immediately offering his just graduated QB an Asst job). PSU played in the 1923 Rose Bowl under Hugo Bezdek.
Of course Penn State was a good program throughout college football history. I'm not sure who thinks otherwise. Joe just took the program to another level.
 
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Corporations goal is to make money. PSU Footballs goal is to make money. Land Grant schit? FFS 409 bro lol

PSU Football's goal is to "make money"??? No it isn't - your a laughable tool. PSU's athletics definitely wants to operate in a way where they are "self funding" and Football is the primary revenue generator, but that is not their sole or even "primary" goal. Beyond that you're such a moron, you don't seem to understand the difference between "revenues" and "profits"... using "making money" and "profits" interchangeably..... Non-Profit Public Universities are not structured anything like a "Corporation" (a private entity which is organized under "Corporate Law" which is a structure that limits liabilities accruing to the "Equity Holders" (i.e., Owners). PSU belongs to the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania (all of the citizens - just like a State Park). Corporations operate to generate PROFITS for the OWNERS. PSU does not. Both a Nonprofit Public University can generate "revenues", including tuition, just like a Corporation.... it has "Operating Expenses" just like a Corporation.... but it does not have "Profits" like a Corporation. An Institution like PSU (including it sub-entities) either operates at a surplus (self-funding) or at a deficit (Operating Expenses exceed Revenues). Given the size of PSU's Athletic Department and the increased expenses associated with NIL of all sports, not just football, it's doubtful that PSU or its Athletic Department Operate at breakeven, let alone a surplus.

In any event, you're full of crap that PSU's football program (or Athletics Department in general) was founded, and run "to make money" whatever an obtuse, ignorant, undefined and dipsh1t claim like this even means.
 

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Seriously all we have to bring in is a min of 10 guys. How many freshmen played or actually made an impact this year. 27 he can have a good recruiting class and get more portal players to even the ground on this recruiting class. People made to much of a big deal and threw tantrums on recruits going to va tech etc.
The good news is the recruiting g class has a 4 star average. That's pretty good. 😀
 

JoeLion

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I just watched the beginning of the presser.

Note...and this is a big note...literally one of the first things Krafty references is restoring the toughness in Penn State football. This is HUGE and something BGJ never did nor really cared about. We need to be tough and physical. That is our tradition and we need to reclaim that culture.

Then in Campbell's opening remarks he references this toughness and talks about his family ties to Penn State and talks about Coach Paterno's tough disciplined teams. He also talks about Kyle Brady and how he watched him as a young 16 year old football player playing tight end! Love this reference to our storied tradition.

Welcome Coach Campbell! Super excited for the future of Penn State football!
I noted Kraft‘s comment about a coach he believes in and can trust. Hmmm….
 
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Football is the primary revenue generator.

so you’re saying I’m right

not their sole or even "primary" goal.

Ur so silly 409 man

there was a big part in the middle I couldn’t understand but I think the word profit is misused
 

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My point was that Indiana and TT both successfully used the portal to significantly improve themselves, and it didn’t take 5 years.

And they are in the minority. Well over 100+ D1 teams. Half the teams have losing records each year.

Indiana might have the best coach. Indiana brought in 48 players that first year. We have 2 right now. In your mind we are the same????
Texas Tech had double the NIL money last year. We ponied up for next year but they can up the ante too. They have oil billionaires backing them.

Part of the problem is your plan is you round EVERYTHING up.
 

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The recruiting class was a major loss and casualty of the process, but signing day is no longer binding and the impact will not be what you think. In January I have no doubt we will get double digit number of true freshman/recruits for 2026 from the portal and remaining unsigned folks. PSU donors opened the wallets and Campbell has $30m NIL war chest to use. All will be well.
He already said he’s not going to blow through that money this year just to fill up the roster. The roster may be a little thin in 2026 because he has his eyes on the future.
 

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I think where someone grows up, who his grand pop rooted for, what his family does for a living has ZERO to do with why you hire someone. Why do these things matter so much to State fans?
”he’s one of us”.

No bro, he’s a 1%er x 5, not like you at all.
Where you come from, both geography and family, makes you the person you are.
 

Ludd

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Yes, he mentioned it in the press conference. He stated it was good to be 2 and a half hours away from his family. Actually, it is more like 3 and a half to four hours since I used to make that drive many times from the Akron-Canton area years ago. But it is less than a half day drive to his relatives and that is a good thing for his own family and him.
My guess is the only jobs he would’ve have taken were PSU or OSU because of location.
 

Ludd

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Bro I’m not talking about my family (just spent Sunday with them in Lancaster) I’m talking about a huge corporation using touchie feelie nonsense in their hiring a ceo decision making
‘an obvious point I thought.
and there’s no shame in my family, we’re killing it top to bottom all over the country
When you’re trying to recruit talent into any leadership position, you use whatever advantages you have. If location is important to the candidate, then you stress that aspect.
 

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And they are in the minority. Well over 100+ D1 teams. Half the teams have losing records each year.

Indiana might have the best coach. Indiana brought in 48 players that first year. We have 2 right now. In your mind we are the same????
Texas Tech had double the NIL money last year. We ponied up for next year but they can up the ante too. They have oil billionaires backing them.

Part of the problem is your plan is you round EVERYTHING up.
I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree.
 
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Guys, obviously I understand PSU football is not a business. im just making fun of the furor over hiring a local boy. Is he good at solving 3rd and long, that’s what’s important. I haven’t read a single thing in this thread about his ability on 3rd and long.
so we fall in love with a local boy who kisses the jp ring, but he can’t solve 3rd and long and we spend another decade supporting another beat blue hens guy cause he’s from Levittown (or was that Franklin)
carry on, please add some x s and o s to this thread after you’re done talking pop pop s