Coach34 has outdid himself lately if that's even possible...

rem101

Sophomore
Jan 22, 2008
3,180
131
63
Goat Dawg said:
Todd4State said:
I agree that we won't miss AD <span style="font-weight: bold;">THAT </span>much.......I think where we will miss AD is as far as emotion. And while I will say I will miss him, and I do think that the team will miss him, I think that we can and probably will overcome that loss.
So we won't miss him, but we will?
You left out the most important part. Saying we won't miss him THAT much still means he thinks we will miss him some. It's really not that hard to comprehend.
 

TBonewannabe

Redshirt
Mar 3, 2008
1,262
0
0
The whole point of this discussion is this, will our rushing offense be better, worse, or the same. I believe even though we lose AD, our total rushing offense will be better. We return our entire Oline and WRs that actually made a difference. We gain a QB that should be better at passing along with Relf having another year of development. All these things add up to us having a better year offensively. We aren't saying that if given the option we wouldn't have AD back.
 

Dawgzilla

Redshirt
Mar 3, 2008
5,406
0
0
But since you're including all of the 2010 running backs, do you think they will outgain all of the 2009 running backs (Dixon, Ducre, Elliot and Stallworth)? That would be an additional 500 yards or so.

Also, is your ypc stat including QBs? Relf really helped the ypc last season, while Lee really hurt that stat. I have to think a Relf/Russell combo will have a much higher ypc average than Lee/Relf. Disregarding the QB pay, I will be pleasantly surprised if the RBs can surpass the 5.2 ypc of last year's RBs.
 

Coach34

Redshirt
Jul 20, 2012
20,283
1
0
he is out of eligibility

You have defeated nothing. This is a simple comparision of what he accomplished last season to what these guys will accomplish this season.

Hell, by your comparision, let's throw Omar Conner, JJ Johnson, and Jerious Norwood in there too.

"Boy, we sure are going to miss those guys this season. We'd be so much better if we had them back"- Goat
 

KurtRambis4

Redshirt
Aug 30, 2006
15,926
0
0
that, but I was there and listened to the UK pregame show. They talked about AD being a beast a good bit and even had a pregame interview with Brooks talking about AD being a beast.
 
Jan 14, 2009
855
0
0
when we need someone who can get a few yards after contact. there were plenty of times he was hit in the backfield or made someone miss in the backfield and then got a 5 yard gain. i'm not sure we have anybody that can do that next year.
 
Jan 14, 2009
855
0
0
see my post about 3rd down and goal line.

we sound like UM saying they won't miss Snead (and Hodge and McCluster).

Will we get the yards with different RBs? Of course. But we will miss him in certain situations and we would be a better team with him on it. If you can't admit that, you shouldn't be legally allowed to own a computer to have this argument with.
 

Coach34

Redshirt
Jul 20, 2012
20,283
1
0
Goat Dawg said:
but WE ARE GOING TO MISS ANTHONY DIXON. We're having to change the offense basically because we don't have him anymore. If you're going to do the cumulative route, go ahead and add in Ducre and Elliot's total to 2009's stats.


No, we are tweaking the offense because our QB's will be different. We are still going to be a run first offense. And we are going to run alot. Next year, we will just <span style="text-decoration:underline">be able to throw it better when we have to</span>. Anybody thinking we are going to start slingin it next season is kidding themselves
 

Coach34

Redshirt
Jul 20, 2012
20,283
1
0
those short-yardage yards we need...he only RS'ed because we didn't need him this past season. He is a man
 

gravedigger

Redshirt
Feb 6, 2009
1,654
0
0
If Dixon were a part of this, we'd rely on him and we'd not be by comittee. At least not to the extent we will be this year and that is what will make our rushing game more effective.

Dixon had some specialties. He could get alot of yards after the first hit. He was hard to bring down in the open field. He could get the tough 1-2 yards for a first down. If by those things you mean we will miss him you are exactly right.

But if you are simply trying to make the point that subtractingone back who ran for 1400 yards last year is going to hurt us because the committee that will replace him wont be able to get those yards together, then you are wrong. Matter of fact, I believe this coming years group will surpass last year's group simply for the fact that the ball will be distributed and we'll be less predictable in our running game as the spread is supposed to exploit.

Dixon, phenominal rb that he was was like a drug we were addicted to. We couldnt NOT rely on him because he was the only proven productive aspect of our offense. HOWEVER, doing that kept the spread offense from doing what it is supposed to naturally do.....spread the defense.

Yes, we will miss his dependability on tough yardage plays. Yes, we'll miss his emotional influence. But we will be able to replace his production.
 

futaba.79

Redshirt
Jun 4, 2007
2,296
0
0
for your arguement would be overall rushing yds. Bumphis is bound to have carries out of the shotgun, which I won't count if they are direct snaps - meaning none of hisrushing yds will count in my book (won't be able to discern). Won't be counting Relf's yds either.

But we'll go with your plan. Rushing yds only by players listed as RBs.
 

FlabLoser

Redshirt
Aug 20, 2006
10,709
0
0
Goat Dawg said:
OK...see that that works. Its a team game. The team will be as good or better than last year in rushing. We won't have any one back beat Dixon's rushing mark from last year. But the offense will do just as well if not better rushing.
Will it? How exactly does that mean we won't miss Anthony Dixon?
You're saying if the offense is better than last year, the offense will still miss Dixon? I think that 1) that would be correct, and 2) that would be taking Coach34 out of context.
 
Jan 14, 2009
855
0
0
he rarely fumbled (unless jinxed by ESPN purposely...a joke, calm down). We have no idea how perkins, ballard, or conner will do in that respect. elliot scares me every time he carries the ball, and relf does too for that matter. i hope our coaching staff teaches both of the ball security this off season.
 
Jan 14, 2009
855
0
0
you mean replying to him on one thread in the span of about a month, then yes. Easily.

Hey, but thanks for adding something worthwhile to the conversation. Try again next year champ!
 

Todd4State

Redshirt
Mar 3, 2008
17,411
1
0
Goat Dawg said:
Todd4State said:
I agree that we won't miss AD that much.......I think where we will miss AD is as far as emotion. And while I will say I will miss him, and I do think that the team will miss him, I think that we can and probably will overcome that loss.
So we won't miss him, but we will?



I'm just saying that I don't think our offense is going to tank without him. We will be better in the passing game regardless of if Relf or Tyler are our QB. Bumphis will be better, and we have some other very talented players like Marcus Green, and then we some guys like Micheal Carr coming in that I think will help us out next year.

At the same time, he was our emotional leader. I just don't see Elliott or Ballard taking that mantle next year. I actually believe that Relf will emerge as the leader though.
 

MadDawg.sixpack

Redshirt
May 22, 2006
3,358
0
0
I mean we played the toughest schedule in the country last year. This year's schedule will not be near as tough. Kind of hard for an apples to apples comparison.
 

Coach34

Redshirt
Jul 20, 2012
20,283
1
0
MadDawg said:
I mean we played the toughest schedule in the country last year. This year's schedule will not be near as tough. Kind of hard for an apples to apples comparison.


I said we would get the same or better production from this year's group compared to last year...it's as simple as that
 

gravedigger

Redshirt
Feb 6, 2009
1,654
0
0
see our schedule being?

Sure, it wont end up tops in the country. I dont see it being that low either.
 

Coach34

Redshirt
Jul 20, 2012
20,283
1
0
a few of you have taken something simple and are trying to make it some huge, complex ordeal.
 

Dawgzilla

Redshirt
Mar 3, 2008
5,406
0
0
We can't take the 2010 team and try to play the 2009 competition. All coach said was that the offense would be good enough in 2010 that we would not miss Dixon. If we beat Georgia this year, I don't think anyone's going to say, "Yeah, but this team would need Dixon if they wanted to beat that 2009 Vandy squad"

Besides, while State's schedule was tough last year, its not as though Houston and Georgia Tech had great defenses. The best you can say for those teams is their offenses kept our offense off the field.
 

MadDawg.sixpack

Redshirt
May 22, 2006
3,358
0
0
the differences are (other than home/away)

(non-conf)
Jxn State in '09 versus Alcorn State in '10 --- wash
Georgia Tech in '09 vs. Memphis in '10 --- much, much, much easier
Houston in '09 vs. Houston in '10 --- wash (although could be argued easier)
Middle Tennessee in '09 vs. UAB in '10 --- much, much easier

(SEC)
Vanderbilt in '09 vs. Georgia in '10 --- much tougher

So the non-conference will be much easier and the conference will be slightly tougher. Will it be enough to skew any comparable results? I don't know. That's why I was asking the question. I do think it could make a difference though. Especially if we for 300 yards rushing against someone like Memphis that we had absolutely no chance of doing against GaTech for example.
 

Coach34

Redshirt
Jul 20, 2012
20,283
1
0
futaba said:
for your arguement would be overall rushing yds. Bumphis is bound to have carries out of the shotgun, which I won't count if they are direct snaps - meaning none of hisrushing yds will count in my book (won't be able to discern). Won't be counting Relf's yds either.

But we'll go with your plan. Rushing yds only by players listed as RBs.

is going to take alot of carries this Fall- that's why I said ypc had to be included. That gives you a good look at their production...
 

DogFan75

Redshirt
Dec 8, 2008
124
0
0
will make this group of RB's look real good but Rob or Vic do not have the size to do what AD did with 20 plus carries a game. Montrell has the size but I here he needs to learn how to block in the 2 back set when he is not getting the ball and it is big issue with Mullen.
 

gravedigger

Redshirt
Feb 6, 2009
1,654
0
0
Auburn away........Auburn at home.......easier
LSU home............LSU away.............much,much harder
Alabama home.....Alabama away.......much,much harder
Florida home........Florida away.........much,much harder, no...damn near impossible. we havent won there since 1969
Kentucky away.....Kentucky home......easier
Arkansas away......arkansas home.......much easier
Ole Miss home......Ole Miss away.......harder

Somehow, even though it wont be rated that way, Next year could be harder.
 

theepicone

Redshirt
Feb 26, 2010
170
0
0
You are dumb. All you are concerned with is trying to prove someone wrong on a message board and you are failing with flying colors. If you really think that way then why even have a 2010 season? why recruit new players? they wont be dixon.... grow up. learn the game of football. C34 is right.Has it not crossed your mindthat having more running backs with different skill sets along with a better air attack will force defenses to change their game plan more than just having dixon. </p>
 

wchsdawg

Redshirt
Mar 3, 2008
192
0
0
Goof ball said that relf would be switching positions this year, perhaps tight end or something else along those lines. Freaking TR doesn't even look like he can beat relf out. Remember relf not being the best chance at winning.