Coach34 is still a dick. (Stolen from SECrant)

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"I hope the Padres can fix him- we sure couldnt

I'm happy for him, and hope he puts most of that money in the bank and some stocks for when his career is over in a few years"
 

Uncle Ruckus

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I agree its real ****** and pathetic to say that about a 21yr old kid but threads like this one are the reason he says **** like that
 
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More gold:

"I see him as one of those guys with a great arm they convert into a pitcher after he struggles to hit for 3 years"
 

catvet

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Renfroe just got close to a 3 mill signing bonus. Coach is still selling condoms in service station vending machines.
 

CadaverDawg

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Not more than Will James.

Well, not necessarily....

See, Will's KSP (Know's **** Percentage) is .0898 which as you all know is about 2 points LOWER than 34's .0900.......so technically 34 knows more. But if you want to include their WGAF (Who Gives A 17) percentage into the equation then it could be a totally different result. Obviously I don't put as much weight into the WGAF as I do the KSP because of sample size. (I will breakdown in a chart in the near future, standby).

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GOOD_DAWG2.0

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Well, not necessarily....

See, Will's KSP (Know's **** Percentage) is .0898 which as you all know is about 2 points LOWER than 34's .0900.......so technically 34 knows more. But if you want to include their WGAF (Who Gives A 17) percentage into the equation then it could be a totally different result. Obviously I don't put as much weight into the WGAF as I do the KSP because of sample size. (I will breakdown in a chart in the near future, standby).

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Cadaver, I literally LOL'd at this. Pure gold.
 

Wicked Pissah

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I actually dont entirely disagree. I mean, he has sucked for 34.5 months out of the 36 months he has been here. Brad corley esque....

he obv has 5 tools but has a very poor plate approach
 
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jeremyrbrown

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I actually dont entirely disagree. I mean, he has sucked for 34.5 months out of the 36 months he has been here. Brad corley esque....

he obv has 5 tools but has a very poor plate approach

Insulting to compare the two. Corley was one of the most lazy, self-entitled players we've ever had. Not saying Renfroe didn't frustrate fans at the plate, but at least he still contributed in RF when he was slumping.
 

biteyoudawg

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Renfroe just got close to a 3 mill signing bonus. Coach is still selling condoms in service station vending machines.

34 is actually selling condoms for women who have swollen clits because of steroid use. That's his specialty now.
 

ronpolk

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Surely C34 is right about Renfroe. I mean he is always right. Like Chris Petersen being our next football coach, Tyler Russell sucks and will never have a good season and people will be beating down the door to coach basketball at State.
 

RougeDawg

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I wouldn't compare him to Corley, but not recognizing early in the season..

Insulting to compare the two. Corley was one of the most lazy, self-entitled players we've ever had. Not saying Renfroe didn't frustrate fans at the plate, but at least he still contributed in RF when he was slumping.

That every pitcher is going to go after you with soft pitches away a majority of the time, and not make adjustments is very frustrating. How many times did he swing and miss at off speed away, when I'm watching on TV saying "off speed away, off speed away, here it comes" and he never made the adjustment. He the last half of the season he looked silly on a lot of pitches away or either hit weak "roll-over" ground balls to left side of the infield. His hit Monday night between SS and 3B was a pitch away. Ball was a few inches outside. He rolled over the ball and was fortunate enough to get a hit. Most of the times a player rolls over an outside pitch like that, it doesn't get through.

I wouldn't put the blame entirely on Hunter, although as a hitter of this level, you are supposed to be able to understand the game well enough to see how people are pitching you, assess the situation, and make the proper adjustments to counteract their approach. IE. 1)start expecting and looking for offspeed pitches away (early in count and when behind in count). If you are looking offspeed away, you can always react to an inside fastball by pulling hands in (if coached properly, which brings me to other reason for slump below). 2) Also start standing closer to plate after you realize they're pitching you away. This will move your plate coverage thus making the outside pitch now more like a pitch previously over the heart of the plate. There are a few other things but if he'd used one or two or both of these adjustments this year, we wouldn't have seen the slump we did. Which brings me to my 2nd point.

Where the 17 were the coaches during all of this? It's also a coaches responsibility to recognize these things and inform said player of the adjustments needed to counteract the opponents approach. Looking at most of our other hitters, nobody is coaching hitting so maybe they just let the players go and the only coaching is when to bunt, hit and run, steal, etc. No coaching of the actual act of hitting and approach at the plate. I never see a hitter move position in the batters box based on previous AB's that game. I also never see any of our hitters choking up on the bat and widening their stance when they have two strikes on them. Both of those adjustments have been shown to increase the hitters chance of making contact, which every hitter should always do when they have 2 strikes on them.

One of the prime examples of no coaching of hitting is our bunting approach. only 2 or 3 of our hitters actually bunt properly (hands out in front or plate, bat above the ball, and on a slight angle.) I hardly ever see that. Imagine how deadly we'd be if we had some mechanics and approach coaching of our hitters. You want an example of this type of coaching, watch a Vandy game. Those hitters have their hands in the proper position prior to swinging, their hands are at the correct points of contact on inside as well as outside pitches. These things are attainable through coaching and practice.

Yes we had a pretty good year on the offensive side of the ball, but this is despite only having a few players with close to optimal approaches and mechanics. Imagine how good we could be if someone would work with them on their mechanics.

I have a feeling 99% of you on this board will look at this post in a similar fashion as if I'd written it in hieroglyphics, but the people who know baseball will be able to comprehend the content.
 

Wicked Pissah

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that post is dead on. I couldnt agree more.

Renfroe went 13 overall and anyone that knows baseball can see he is lost at the plate. He runs well and throws 100 mph and has power. That is how he went that high. He will have to learn how to play baseball though.

Your post is accurate.
 

IBleedMaroonDawg

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Whoa

 

RougeDawg

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Straight from Cliff himself... If our hitters had an inkling of coaching..

Anybody got the Cliffs Notes?

on hitting Mechanics and AB approach , we would be a Vandy type team. Hunter's stats this year were based solely on raw talent, which the pro scouts can obviously see. Had he the proper coaching (which apparently he did last summer, as do most top summer leagues) he would have batted .400 or better and had much higher numbers. He's probably got the best raw talent in SEC and maybe nation, but he was not given any guidance or direction as to adjustments throughout the season and from AB to AB.

Been saying this for years, and it extends far before Cohen got here. Our coaches, and most D1 coaches for the most part, do not teach hitting mechanics and strategy. Doing these two things are the difference in us making a run at CWS every 2-3 yrs and the teams who are in Super Regionals every year. We all have basically the same level of talent, the difference is the coach who can tweak a swing or suggest an in game adjustment. IE mechanics tweaks: move hitters hands roughly 6-8 directly out from armpit/back shoulder (prevents arm bar and roll over swing). Move hands up or down slightly depending on whether hitter is popping up or hitting ground balls. As far as the strategy part, either our coaches do not provide scouting reports to the player or the players do not read and/or give a **** about them.