Cohen's post game quotes:
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They "blew the doors off of our program" in 2005. Most of the Reb fans on this board didn't even know where Swayze Field was 10 years ago. This is a new "winning" program and they are very excited about it. Throw out our 8 College World Series appearances at MSU. That was in the past and the present and future in college baseball in Mississippi is at Ole Miss!!! Also, the past is brought up early and often in college football talk about Ole Miss. I often hear about the 3? National Titles and the overall record between Ole Miss and MSU. I guess that talk only is warranted in football and not baseball and basketball.
I'm a State fan - Dawg to the death - and I think Cohen is going too far with these comments. Throwing these guys under the bus is doing nothing to benefit this program. A little discretion would be helpful in this situation.dawgstudent said:
I wanted Cohen here as much as anybody when we got rid of Polk. And I would be looking high and low for pitchers to replace these guys. But, constantly bashing the current players in the media ... that's going too far.
If you are, then you never played a 17ing sport. If you as a player do your part to win a game and you have several other players doing there part to win games, then how do you think they feel or what do you think they say about the ones that are consistently not doing their part to win the game? They are saying the same **** Cohen is. And as a player, I would be 17ing thrilled to know that I had a coach that wasn't satisfied with failure. I know I wouldn't be too damn happy busting my *** to win games to have the same ole players come in and piss it away. </p>
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And when Cohen gets his players in here, you probably won't hear him say these things in public. If I had to guess, the more players that get pissed and leave after the season, then the better Cohen has it, so if there ******'s hurt from the criticism, then good riddance.
Cohen is getting paid big time buck and left a huge contract offer from KY to win at MSU. He isn't coaching at MSU to make the mommas and the daddies happy. He wants to win and to hell with anything else. If you can't take the criticism, pack your damn bags. If you can't take the pressure of playing in front of large crowds, don't play in the SEC and pack your bags. If you don't like a coach that expects and demands excellence and winning, pack your damn bags. If you don't want an athletic administration that will push the envelope, bring excitement and youth leadership to your athletic program, pack your bags and die off. There's too many of you bringing us young ones down.
Two dead-on truths. Jim is still awesome. I've heard a lot of college baseball guys and Jim is still the best in my book. Top notch.JacksonDevilDog said:
... I know you are a big stats guy. Sorry they blast your take on the baseball team out of the water.
Lastly, I hope your new husband Dan Mullen delivers. When he begins to lose a few, we'll be looking for the obligatory hissy fits (as well as the stats to back up the abligatory hissy fits).
Lastly, I hope your new husband Dan Mullen delivers. When he begins to lose a few, we'll be looking for the obligatory hissy fits (as well as the stats to back up the abligatory hissy fits).
So I've seen a day or two on the diamond.
You don't isolate them in the media.
You take care of the **** in private. You isolate them to the team. You let the other players voice their frustration about the bullpen blowing it.
You don't 17'ing isolate them in the media. THAT is ********. And I have said the same damn thing about Ole Miss coaches, too.
There are ways he could handle his comments to the media without looking like a GD prick. There are dozens of other comments he could've made that would've gotten his point across perfectly without calling the players a piece of **** in public. Call them a piece of **** in the lockerroom, that's where that is supposed to be handled.
Continue on with your dumbassedry. Everybody else in the conference is laughing at you and your coach who has accomplished nothing in his career.
And yes, I'm well aware of UK winning the conference in 2006. That obviously worked wonders in the postseason for Cohen and UK.
You don't isolate them in the media.
You take care of the **** in private. You isolate them to the team. You let the other players voice their frustration about the bullpen blowing it.
You don't 17'ing isolate them in the media. THAT is ********. And I have said the same damn thing about Ole Miss coaches, too.
There are ways he could handle his comments to the media without looking like a GD prick. There are dozens of other comments he could've made that would've gotten his point across perfectly without calling the players a piece of **** in public. Call them a piece of **** in the lockerroom, that's where that is supposed to be handled.
Continue on with your dumbassedry. Everybody else in the conference is laughing at you and your coach who has accomplished nothing in his career.
And yes, I'm well aware of UK winning the conference in 2006. That obviously worked wonders in the postseason for Cohen and UK.
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No, you take them to task in the lockerroom. Nobody here cares about hurting their feelings. If they deserve a verbal beating, give it to them. Just don't do it in the public. At least, that was always how I was taught the game.
You don't do it in the media.
He called the WHOLE bullpen out, and he's right. I guess it's calling a guy out when a manager says "we didn't pitch well today", or "we didn't hit well today", or "we didn't field well today". How is that any different? If he specifically said that Caleb Reed or Jared Wesson can't throw strikes, THAT would be wrong. Calling the whole group out- I don't have a problem with it.
And how do you think the hitters feel about the bullpen? What about Forrest Moore? What would they have thought if Cohen had gotten up there and defended the bullpen?
The bottom line is the bullpen cost us the game. The reason was because they couldn't throw strikes. When you lose you gotta say something tangible other than "that's baseball".
And how do you think the hitters feel about the bullpen? What about Forrest Moore? What would they have thought if Cohen had gotten up there and defended the bullpen?
The bottom line is the bullpen cost us the game. The reason was because they couldn't throw strikes. When you lose you gotta say something tangible other than "that's baseball".
THESE AREN'T HIS 17ING PLAYERS!!!! He doesn't give a **** if he comes off as a prick. It will be easier on him, if they just quit, instead of cutting their ***. It's not like it's a damn secret to why we are losing games. It's not like 1 player makes an error and Cohen berates them during an interview. Our bullpen is consistently sucking *** and costing us games. If Cohen expresses his frustrations to the media, then so be it.
Watering and dragging the infield don't count.
No, they stopped when Polk left and Cohen was hired...
"Do you think the fielders/hitters like hearing their friends/teammates talked so poorly about in the public?"
Let me ask you this Reb- you don't think those hitters that scored 30 runs in this series want to beat some of those pitchers *** right now? Every team I played on and coached always jumped some *** of people that werent doing their job. There have even been fights over stuff like that
Cohen saying things like that to the paper are the least of the bullpens problems
Let me ask you this Reb- you don't think those hitters that scored 30 runs in this series want to beat some of those pitchers *** right now? Every team I played on and coached always jumped some *** of people that werent doing their job. There have even been fights over stuff like that
Cohen saying things like that to the paper are the least of the bullpens problems
as saying "these players suck ***, and they sucked *** last year too."
Saying you didn't perform well isn't the same as saying they have no skill whatsoever.
There is no need to defend the bullpen. There is also no need to **** on them to the media, either.
Saying you didn't perform well isn't the same as saying they have no skill whatsoever.
There is no need to defend the bullpen. There is also no need to **** on them to the media, either.
...as well they should. If they didn't, then something is really wrong.
Not in the papers.
I swear to God, John Cohen could call a steal of home with 2 outs and the bases loaded in the 9th of a tied ballgame and somehow you people would rationalize it that its the player's fault he didn't run fast enough.
Not in the papers.
I swear to God, John Cohen could call a steal of home with 2 outs and the bases loaded in the 9th of a tied ballgame and somehow you people would rationalize it that its the player's fault he didn't run fast enough.
we have you to chastise us when that happens.
Besides, what do you care what our coach says about our players?
Besides, what do you care what our coach says about our players?
Otherwise, I wouldn't have said a damn thing.
I really don't care what he says, he can say whatever he wants, I was just giving an opinion that differs from the ones in this thread. If Ole Miss' coach was doing that, I'd be really pissed...just as I was when in 2007 Ed Orgeron said "we just don't have any SEC quality players, we gotta get some SEC quality players."
Houston Nutt proved the very next season that he was 100% incorrect.
I really don't care what he says, he can say whatever he wants, I was just giving an opinion that differs from the ones in this thread. If Ole Miss' coach was doing that, I'd be really pissed...just as I was when in 2007 Ed Orgeron said "we just don't have any SEC quality players, we gotta get some SEC quality players."
Houston Nutt proved the very next season that he was 100% incorrect.
rebfan04 said:
What is your reasoning on the whole Cohen argument? Why do you care for what he is saying? Cohen has brought some fire into the program and statements like what he is saying can be manipulated in a million ways.
The way I see it is his statements are a gigantic recruiting pitch to all those we are recruiting and those that are paying attention to him that John Cohen & MSU want players. He demands excellence and until he gets it he won't stop publicly showing his displeasure.
Thank God for what he has brought us to MSU.
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I'm sorry that, when you played little league, it was ok for your coach to pat you on the *** for letting that pop up hit you in the head and that it irritates your ****** that our coach calls out our ****** bullpen. Go watch more Oprah and Dr. Phil and I'm sure that will soothe your ****** irritation. </div> </div>
The fact that these aren't his players and they suck is the reason they are getting called out in the media, so that they will quit and he can bring in his own players that don't suck.... Understand??? If it were 1 or 2 players that sucked, he could work around that and I guarandamntee you that he wouldn't be calling out 1 or 2 players. The fact it's basically the whole bullpen is the reason they are getting called out.
I'm sorry that, when you played little league, it was ok for your coach to pat you on the *** for letting that pop up hit you in the head and that it irritates your ****** that our coach calls out our ****** bullpen. Go watch more Oprah and Dr. Phil and I'm sure that will soothe your ****** irritation. </div> </div>
We'll see how that works out for him. In the meantime, it's entertaining as hell to watch this guy.
he went to two regionals during his time there, and Kentucky had been to two regionals previously in its entire baseball history, I think he probably maximized that program's potential. Anyone who thinks Cohen didn't do a great job at Kentucky is just being dishonest.
So, the theory is that he's throwing them under a freight train so that they will quit without him having to cut them. I don't know whether that's his reason or not. I think he's probably just hotheaded (which I do think will benefit our program down the road). But if that is the reason, then that's cowardly that he would want someone to quit so he doesn't have to cut them. If you don't want someone on the team next year, man up and tell them to their face, don't just talk as much **** behind their back as you can until they get fed up and quit. (Again, this is only if the theory of so many in this thread is correct.)muddawgs33 said:
I agree. Just be a man and tell them to their face after the season is over. There is no need to trash these young men in the media. It's just cowardly or he's simply being a jackass. Either way ... it doesn't look good for MSU baseball.VegasDawg13 said:
he wants to win badly and gets pissed when we don't. Of all things, do ya'll really think Cohen doesn't have the balls to bring a guy in his office and tell him he's cut? At least give him something.
I'll be honest, I would have gone crazy if I had been asked for comment after this weekend.
Of course, no one talks about the 90% of the time that Cohen talks and doesn't say these things. In the pregame sat, he discussed that he thought the guys had great focus Friday and played hard and just didn't finish. He's usually very levelheaded.
Im sure he's also frustrated b/c we are 1 pitcher away from being 7-5 in conf. Get this: we are only 1 game out of Hoover right now.
I'll be honest, I would have gone crazy if I had been asked for comment after this weekend.
Of course, no one talks about the 90% of the time that Cohen talks and doesn't say these things. In the pregame sat, he discussed that he thought the guys had great focus Friday and played hard and just didn't finish. He's usually very levelheaded.
Im sure he's also frustrated b/c we are 1 pitcher away from being 7-5 in conf. Get this: we are only 1 game out of Hoover right now.
I think he just gets pissed and flies off the handle a little bit. I don't think it's as calculating as everyone is giving him credit for.
He's a competitor; he wants to win. So, when we blow a huge lead for the second time in the weekend, he's pissed and has a hard time hiding it.</p>
He's a competitor; he wants to win. So, when we blow a huge lead for the second time in the weekend, he's pissed and has a hard time hiding it.</p>
for the eventual house-clearing. Also, I expect there's some desire on his part to make it so that the parents of these formerly coddled children have no sympathy from pretty much any quarter when they run around and complain how badly that mean Cohen treated their baby. AND, he's letting the entire national classes of 2010 and 2011 know that there will be plenty of openings. COME ON DOWN!
Tell em jackstefano. Now the real Johnnie-Boy is coming out!
If I were one of his pitchers I'd aim a wild pitch right at where it hurts Cohen most - his big fat mouth!!
Sooner he and the guy who brought him here are outta here, the better!!
If I were one of his pitchers I'd aim a wild pitch right at where it hurts Cohen most - his big fat mouth!!
Sooner he and the guy who brought him here are outta here, the better!!
The sooner Cohen and Byrne get out of here the better?
Yea great idea... Let's bring LT, Crxxm, and Polk back.
Yea great idea... Let's bring LT, Crxxm, and Polk back.
Instead of Croom driving and Pegues going under the bus, you could put your pitching staff out front and Cohen in the driver's seat. That's some pretty rough stuff.
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