Kid reminds me a lot of Jason Leger. Tough, country strong kid with a mean streak. I like the film on Horton also. Maybe we sign better prospects, maybe we don't. We shall see.
Cole Bentley deciding tomorrow, what's your prediction?
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The plan is to take 2 more tackles. Wills is obviously at the top of the board. Obinna Eze is 2nd on the board and we are probably in his top 3
Horton is only 6' maybe 6'1" with short arms and he lacks an explosive first step. His lack of height and his short wingspan are a big concern. It means that he has a small tackle radius and it's an even bigger issue if he's not fast enough to run down guys that are out of his reach.
What Horton does have is incredible strength and a good motor. He uses those two advantages to dominate HS competition and win reps in a camp setting where he can drive someone onto their back without pads. He won't get away with bull rushing through the chest of SEC offensive linemen and his short arms will make it tough for him to shed blockers
Unbelievable the vitriol that is on this thread because of this kid's college choice. No one would even be talking about him if he was from Indiana or Tennessee.
Must we get every Kentucky kid? No. Will we get them all? Heck no. We've tried signing mostly Kentucky kids and that led us nowhere.
This isn't Landon Young or Jedrick Wills. He is just another prospect.
Must we get every Kentucky kid? No. Will we get them all? Heck no. We've tried signing mostly Kentucky kids and that led us nowhere.
This isn't Landon Young or Jedrick Wills. He is just another prospect.
It seems like the main problem with signing him was we didn't want him.
Everyone that signs with UL may not be bad, but they certainly are suspect IMO.
If you are good enough to get a scholarship away from all the transfers they are looking at then you don't have to go to that cesspool.
JMO
With the limited scholarships this year, and the fact we are heavy at that position....what position of need would you have passed on for CB?
What have you seen from him that the staff didn't?
To me, you have to recruit your state first. Especially when theres limited talent here.
I understand he wasnt a position of need. If he beats out another player, they transfer. If not, he transfers. Yes, we're tight on scholarships. But to me, we're not so tight that we pass on a 3 star in state player with major offers.
I also find this hard to believe, one does not play for Phillip Haywood and have a bad work ethic, he has won over 400 games and still going !
What good is it to have a bunch of KY players but not the right depth at positions of need? Again, in a year where we sign 25-27 he is a take. This year with limited rides, unfortunately not.
I know people close to the Belfry program and this is not what I have ever heard.
Bentley is a 4 year starter for Belfry essentially on both sides of the football. When a player isn't working hard Coach Haywood has no problem teaching them a life lesson.
If you want to critique Cole I would stick with the fact he is going to be playing a position that is completely new to him, or that he is going to learn to pass block for a team that passes maybe three times a game at most. Work ethic, though, isn't really the direction I would go.
Cade Mays is a 4* Tennessee Commit who was invited to the Rival's 5* Challenge
Ray Horton ate Mays up and spat him out in a game setting.
No doubt his wingspan and height are what is holding him back... but I would rather have one Ray Horton who knows how to play football and knows how to disrupt and read plays, as opposed to 10 of the numerous DT busts we have had.
Matt Elam has the height and wingspan, but if he had 1/5 of Horton's motor, footwork, and ability to fire out low and hard he wouldn't be nearly as ineffective as he has been.
Horton, from an on the field perspective, is probably the most dominant HS D-LInemen to come out of KY since Dennis Johnson.
High praise indeed. Peters came from Louisville, but I don't think he really emerged until he was a senior at UK, and that was without Jarmon so he was double teamed almost every play.
But I was very impressed with Horton's highlight film, much better than most IMO, I didn't notice his short arms or heght.
Most of us knew he had a killer junior year and was highly touted entering his senior season.
Glad you are not stacking bodies at guard for us and Stoops has a better plan. I think our QBs are happy too.
I posted this on another Bentley thread a month or so ago, but I haven't seen a good explanation to refute it.
When looking at the current roster, there is more depth for 2016/2017 on the interior OL than elsewhere, but there is NOT when you project the current roster/commits to the fall of 2018. That's my cutoff b/c you normally want Bentley (or any other 2017 OL/DL recruit) to be RS'd and developed prior to 2018.
Let's look at the current project depth chart for 2018
OLINE
OT - Landon Young (tr JR or RS SO)
OG - Stenberg (JR)
C - Stallings (SR)
OG - GAA (SR)
OT - Wolfe (JR)
Backups - OG Fortner (SO), OG/C Drake Jackson (SO), OT - Dotson (RS FR), OT/OG Wills (hopefully - RS FR or SO)
So, even if Wolfe ends up projecting to OG, that just means Bentley (or any other 2017 OG recruit) isn't forced onto the field prematurely and can develop for another year or so.
In the same post, I compared depth for DBs and WRs, which are 2 positions that CAN come in and play as true or definitely as RS-FR. I am NOT saying Bentley should've been a take, but help me understand why you WOULDN'T take an OG now to give him more time to develop?
When looking at the current roster, there is more depth for 2016/2017 on the interior OL than elsewhere, but there is NOT when you project the current roster/commits to the fall of 2018. That's my cutoff b/c you normally want Bentley (or any other 2017 OL/DL recruit) to be RS'd and developed prior to 2018.
Let's look at the current project depth chart for 2018
OLINE
OT - Landon Young (tr JR or RS SO)
OG - Stenberg (JR)
C - Stallings (SR)
OG - GAA (SR)
OT - Wolfe (JR)
Backups - OG Fortner (SO), OG/C Drake Jackson (SO), OT - Dotson (RS FR), OT/OG Wills (hopefully - RS FR or SO)
So, even if Wolfe ends up projecting to OG, that just means Bentley (or any other 2017 OG recruit) isn't forced onto the field prematurely and can develop for another year or so.
In the same post, I compared depth for DBs and WRs, which are 2 positions that CAN come in and play as true or definitely as RS-FR. I am NOT saying Bentley should've been a take, but help me understand why you WOULDN'T take an OG now to give him more time to develop?
I agree, some kids don't cut the grade when it comes to size, length or even speed, but they are still dang good football players. But that almight scale and measuring tape says they can't play regardless of what their gamefilm looks like. Of course I am not talking about a 5'10" 200 lb DT, but a kid 6'1" 270 DT gets put in that slot no matter what his film says.
Appreciate the response - that actually makes some sense. If someone has stated that before, I just didn't see it. Regardless, I've seen people talking about taking more DBs or LBs, but I still would see more value in taking 3 OT & 1 OG (Bentley) over another DB as OL just take much longer to develop. Stock up on a couple more DBs in the 2018 class if needed.