You haven’t posted any sources for our baseball expenses and revenue or softball.
College baseball vs softball. Popularity & viewership
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I bet you'd be surprised. Those big spring crowds play well among the folks in North Alabama, which is a growing area overall. And we DESPERATELY need inroads into a growing area at the moment, where we can draw students, and keep alumni, so they can come back and repeat the cycle.
You’re forgetting we’re paying off a stadium that when that is paid off our revenue will be in the positive and more than it was before stadium was built.
Can’t believe we are agreeing again but how some people don’t understand bringing in 15 to 20,000 people for a baseball game isn’t great.
It’s a huge selling point for students. Great for the city as well.
Student recruitment and overall school excitement during the Mullen years of football is not even comparable to baseball national championships year. Objectively speaking it’s not even debatable. That’s another reason all money should go to our football program to make it the absolute best it can be. Ole Miss understands this.
Spend more money on the softball facilities, coaches, and players. Invest and they will come. The overall popularity of the sport in general speaks to this claim.
Attach an amusement park to the baseball stadium and build a water park around it. Still wouldn’t have the amount of people our football brings on its worst day.
All students want a better football program over a good baseball team I can promise you that.
Ole miss does both
We should too
So you think we should give less money to baseball and focus on football and SOFTBALL?
Are you a 17ing mentally ill 13 year old or a tranny?
Do the same for softball and it wouldn’t come to 1/7 of what baseball does
Yeah but MSU fans, which is a huge component, care about baseball. Not softball.
In 2016 we had 11,000 fans come watch our women’s basketball team. Vic created all that from scratch. Imagine if we had invested and made him the highest paid coach in the country and invested in that program to the same degree as baseball nationally. The same goes for softball. The excitement is there, if we invest in it as a school. My point is the discrepancy of investment in baseball to softball. Both lose money with baseball losing a lot more, so why not invest in softball? Why don’t we invest in women’s sports and be great? The numbers show and have proven even here that they will come out and support it.
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My position is invest everything we have into football. That is my position. But I’m saying if you want to be retarded and invest in fringe sports that don’t make any money, Im saying why not invest as a school into softball to the same degree as baseball, accordingly and competitively to their sport nationally speaking.
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Bc they don’t generate the same ROI at Mississippi
and roi isn’t just measured in revenue and expenses for baseball only.
And you still haven’t provided a source
This is the part of your argument that doesn’t make sense. Why does what is popular nationally mean more than what is popular regionally and locally? Our university and alumni care about baseball. It doesn’t matter that other parts of the country don’t care as much as we do.
Time to invest in hockey gents! They got some good ratings on TV that one time.
But what you haven’t posted is the most relevant data point to MSU and that is the market price for a top shelf proven head coach in college baseball.
We don’t play hockey around here. However, we are a huge high school girls softball state.
No we’re not. Very few girls from MS play college softball. We had 2 on our roster this year.
There’s a lot of high schools with softball, that is true, but the quality isn’t there. NW Rankin and Hernando were both nationally ranked this year and if they played anyone else on that list they would get run ruled.
That might be the dumbest thing you've posted yet.
Because investing in softball won't bring in students. If investing everything into football would make us good, that would be the right play and I think even the most hardcore baseball fans would understand that. And I'm not even talking about being the top 3 or 4 teams in the SEC, I'm talking about just good enough that we can be in the discussion for the playoffs.
Unfortunately, if we invest everything we have in football, that will currently get us to 13th in the SEC, maybe. Very likely what would happen is we'd get marginally better, find out we don't have the right coach, and have just set a bunch of money on fire.
But with respect to softball, we had boosters that love baseball decide they want a nationally competitive program and they paid up to make it happen. If we had a billionaire decide he was going to buy us a nationally competitive softball team, it's very questionable whether people would decide that's enough to show up. And certainly questionable whether it would get prospective students to campus that wouldn't have visited otherwise, or provide them with some weekend excitement in the spring. Even ignoring the fact that boosters are spending on what they care about, why spend money hoping to develop interest in softball when we already have interest in baseball and the ability to be nationally competitive?
Vic still would've left.
As I've said the last few times that you've tried to convince this board filled with Mississippi State fans that we should abandon baseball... you are like a dog with a bone. I don't think you're going to get anywhere with this particular bone, however.
I was about to make this same point or something very similar last night because I’ve honestly lost track of what bulldoghair’s point even is, but I stopped since I didn’t want to make my head hurt any more.
I mean, nearly 19M people watched the Iowa and SC women battle it out for a national title two seasons ago. That’s right on par with the CFP semi finals and just slightly below the title game. Does that mean we should be dumping equal money into women’s basketball as we do for football? By BH’s logic, I guess so
What an awkward hill to die on. When softball starts playing for championships I’m sure they’ll get more funding. Until then stfu.