College football continues its death spiral***

STATEgrad04

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Interesting that they could track that 19 OM viewers tuned in to the Cotton Bowl to see who their next opponent might be.***
 

DawgNsuds

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interesting that the Prime Time game finished in 3rd place only behind the 11am game.
 

Leeshouldveflanked

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Not bad considering the 2026 Rose Bowl was a second round playoff game and the 2006 Rose Bowl was a national championship game. Nice try at making it sound bad though.
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85Bears

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According to NY Times here is the cost of doing business in the portal this yr. QB: $1M to $4M OT: $600K to $1.3M RB: $400K to $900K WR: $500Kto $1M TE: $300K to $900K Edge rushers: $500K to $2M Interior DL: $500K to $1.5M Corners: $250K to $1M Safeties: $250K to $900K
 

o_Hot Rock

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Mainly due to the playoff, which everyone knew was long needed.

NIL still a big problem.
How is it a problem? It is finally legal to play players which allows any team to compete rather than just the Favorite sons of the NCAA who never seemed to get caught paying players. Meanwhile we give a guy a ride to a funeral and get him a discounted suit that he paid for and get probation and forfeit wins.

NCAA and Universities ran a money making machine for a century without paying the men that were out there doing the work and getting crippled or even dying.

You want to compete, then pay your players/workers or you don't compete. It's called a free market and the basis of capitalism.
 

HRMSU

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Do you have the same comparisons for the non playoff bowl games? No agenda here just curious if they are up or down. College football would include all of college football right? If those ratings held their own or improved then it would strengthen your point even more.

I was excited to watch the playoff games just because the matchups and the playoff expansion. I still hate what has happened to college football but I'm going to watch the playoffs. Personally, I don't remember watching any non playoff game except Texas/Michigan and having others on in the background. Texas/Michigan was good but just watched that because blue blood matchup and SEC interest. Lastly, don't underestimate the gambling aspect of this which didn't exist at this scale in the past.
 

HRMSU

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How is it a problem? It is finally legal to play players which allows any team to compete rather than just the Favorite sons of the NCAA who never seemed to get caught paying players. Meanwhile we give a guy a ride to a funeral and get him a discounted suit that he paid for and get probation and forfeit wins.

NCAA and Universities ran a money making machine for a century without paying the men that were out there doing the work and getting crippled or even dying.

You want to compete, then pay your players/workers or you don't compete. It's called a free market and the basis of capitalism.
Allows anyone to pay players....the compete part is still getting sorted out.
 

o_Hot Rock

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Allows anyone to pay players....the compete part is still getting sorted out.
As it always will... Cleveland Browns say hello. NFL has Salary Cap, no transfer portal and a system setup for trades and free agents that is very favorable to make every team have a shot to field a comparable roster.

They can't even hire a coach away from another program without permission. They have made trades for Coaches that involve draft picks. And yet, the Browns still suck. You can't fix dysfunctional organizations very easily so that competing part will always be a problem.
 
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onewoof

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Almost as much interest as a meaningless end of regular season NFL game.

However it happened, it was the most meaningful win for OM in the modern football era. But like all other playoff games, it will be forgotten by this coming Monday. The overall cost/benefit value isn't much other than to the OM fans, students and alumni. The nation really does not care. Win it all and then you've truly cashed in.
 
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FlotownDawg

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Almost as much interest as a meaningless end of regular season NFL game.

However it happened, it was the most meaningful win for OM in the modern football era. But like all other playoff games, it will be forgotten by this coming Monday. The overall cost/benefit value isn't much other than to the OM fans, students and alumni. The nation really does not care. Win it all and then you've truly cashed in.
This might be the most bury your head in the sand post I've ever seen on here.
 
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FlotownDawg

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It's true none the less. Nobody even remembers the runner up a year later.
Well nobody remembers the College World Series champion two days after it's over, but that' doesn't stop us from going all in on baseball.
 

OG Goat Holder

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How is it a problem? It is finally legal to play players which allows any team to compete rather than just the Favorite sons of the NCAA who never seemed to get caught paying players. Meanwhile we give a guy a ride to a funeral and get him a discounted suit that he paid for and get probation and forfeit wins.

NCAA and Universities ran a money making machine for a century without paying the men that were out there doing the work and getting crippled or even dying.

You want to compete, then pay your players/workers or you don't compete. It's called a free market and the basis of capitalism.
It's inflated due to the fake demand created by small group of boosters.

If actual NIL were all that was allowed, it would be much more tamped down. And I'm alright with schools raising stipends due to increased TV money. That would be more aligned with what is the true value. And I'm ok with the transfer portal too, honestly.

But boosters just outright paying way over the market rate for their own team's benefit? That's what throws this out of balance.
 

Maroon Eagle

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Hail dear ol' Chaff!
Fight for 3 Star Recruit today!
Hit that portal all day long, where have all the OL’s gone?
And then we'll yell, yell, yell, yell!
Fire the coach or we’ll give you H-E-L-L!
Fight for Mis-sis-sip-pi Chaff, Watch Ole Miss win today!”

Bravo!

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olblue

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Almost as much interest as a meaningless end of regular season NFL game.

However it happened, it was the most meaningful win for OM in the modern football era. But like all other playoff games, it will be forgotten by this coming Monday. The overall cost/benefit value isn't much other than to the OM fans, students and alumni. The nation really does not care. Win it all and then you've truly cashed in.
I think any fan of a final four football team is pretty much FU to the nation anyway. As usual, you miss the point. Nobody has ever suggested that any sport could rival the NFL. It is the gold standard. But more people are interested in college football than ever before, despite what your 1970s way of thinking says.
 

olblue

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This might be the most bury your head in the sand post I've ever seen on here.
Don’t waste your time, but there are about 100 more just like them from him/her in the last month. He/she is eaten up with red and blue envy.
 

olblue

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Do you have the same comparisons for the non playoff bowl games? No agenda here just curious if they are up or down. College football would include all of college football right? If those ratings held their own or improved then it would strengthen your point even more.

I was excited to watch the playoff games just because the matchups and the playoff expansion. I still hate what has happened to college football but I'm going to watch the playoffs. Personally, I don't remember watching any non playoff game except Texas/Michigan and having others on in the background. Texas/Michigan was good but just watched that because blue blood matchup and SEC interest. Lastly, don't underestimate the gambling aspect of this which didn't exist at this scale in the past.
 
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onewoof

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I think any fan of a final four football team is pretty much FU to the nation anyway. As usual, you miss the point. Nobody has ever suggested that any sport could rival the NFL. It is the gold standard. But more people are interested in college football than ever before, despite what your 1970s way of thinking says.
Its almost as if the goal is to grow the audience, whatever way possible. There is no doubt there are a few good story lines for sports right now, which have a lasting power of about 6 days. The average fan is fickle and easily distracted, and I believe a "viewer" counts even if you watch it for 1 second while changing channels.

Not going to lie though, the Pop Tarts bowl has the best marketing team in the nation. Teams that play there are the luckiest so far.
 

olblue

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Its almost as if the goal is to grow the audience, whatever way possible. There is no doubt there are a few good story lines for sports right now, which have a lasting power of about 6 days.
You do realize that TV revenue is driven by growing the audience? I didn’t think so based on your business acumen.
 

ronpolk

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Mainly due to the playoff, which everyone knew was long needed.

NIL still a big problem.
I don’t think NIL is the problem. It’s dumb in the way people are “donating” money to be paid directly to the players…. The transfer portal is what is the biggest problem.
 

onewoof

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You do realize that TV revenue is driven by growing the audience? I didn’t think so based on your business acumen.
Advertising revenue deals are based on # of views so the way they count is very liberal. The monthly subs are not looking good but are recovering after the YouTubeTV blackout. The viewers report you posted was based on viewers that already had ESPN subcriptions watching at least few seconds of the game. So the goal is to keep the advertisers happy, so you see things like the "2 minute timeout" and other tactics to keep the games close for their benefit.
 

onewoof

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Complete picture....it's definitely not in a death spiral from a viewership perspective!
It would have been if we were all watching Georgia, Ohio State, Alabama, Michigan battle it out for another title.