Come home Kliff!

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Hal Mumme tree hasn’t let us down and WVU has Mumme fever! Make it happen Wren!
Brown played two seasons for Mumme at Kentucky before transferring to Massachusetts to complete his collegiate eligibility for Mark Whipple. Neal is a branch of that tree as was Holgorsen.
 

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Brown played two seasons for Mumme at Kentucky before transferring to Massachusetts to complete his collegiate eligibility for Mark Whipple. Neal is a branch of that tree as was Holgorsen.
But the Hal Mumme tree has produced so many head coaches with National Championships and Super Bowl Rings!
 

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But the Hal Mumme tree has produced so many head coaches with National Championships and Super Bowl Rings!
Those coaches changed the Air Raid to better fit their players. They don't throw it 75 times a game. They also play defense.

Long before they were household names, Sonny Dykes and Kirby Smart were football guys looking to get their foot in the door. Chris Hatcher, a former University of Kentucky assistant, helped make it happen.
 

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Why would WVU want to hire a coach who didn't beat WVU when Pat Mahomes was his quarterback?
Question what was your thoughts on last nights game? It must have hurt knowing that you guys were a kick away from holding a party last night. Losing to Michigan was a head scratcher but that's rivalry games for you. I think Osu, Alabama and the top half of the Sec would have stomped Tcu. The people wanting to justify that Tcu belonged are only fooling themselves. You know the playoff system is broken for allowing those chumps a shot at it.
 

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Question what was your thoughts on last nights game? It must have hurt knowing that you guys were a kick away from holding a party last night. Losing to Michigan was a head scratcher but that's rivalry games for you. I think Osu, Alabama and the top half of the Sec would have stomped Tcu. The people wanting to justify that Tcu belonged are only fooling themselves. You know the playoff system is broken for allowing those chumps a shot at it.
I didn't watch it, but yeah, it stunk, as it was a lost opportunity to add to the Trophy Case. Georgia led Ohio State for less than two minutes during the Game, but was ahead when it counted. In light of its resume, it would have been hard to have kept TCU out of the CFP, but it was just a matter of time before the Frogs' luck ran out.
 

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I didn't watch it, but yeah, it stunk, as it was a lost opportunity to add to the Trophy Case. Georgia led Ohio State for less than two minutes during the Game, but was ahead when it counted. In light of its resume, it would have been hard to have kept TCU out of the CFP, but it was just a matter of time before the Frogs' luck ran out.
The reason they expanded the playoff was to try and get all the good teams in. Outside of Clemson and OSU no one else has proven in recent memory that they can play with the Sec big boys at times. There really isn't that much championship level parity in college football at the moment. Hopefully the expanded playoff will prevent what happened last night. The excuse makers like to say how good it was to have someone new. Not sure what was so great about a team that lost by 58 points on what was supposed to be college footballs biggest stage.
 

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But Hal Mumme tree has been so successful. Zero national championships (Sonny with the worst loss of all time) and zero Super Bowls.

The Nehlen coaching tree has a few NC’s in modern day, but we are all about that Mumme.
 

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Number 1: ……

But the ESPN graphics say that that coaching tree is phenomenal. I mean Mike Leach was good, Dykes played for the first Mumme tree national championship and had the worse loss ever.

But we continue to hire Mumme’s.
That should stop immediately. Air Raid is useless. Works great between 20's but difficult in red zone.
 

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Lol the dude couldn’t make a bowl game with Patrick Mahomes, but sure he will figure it all out here…
 
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Universities are so afraid of missing out on the next Saban, Meyer, or Smart that coaches are over valued based on chance or potential. See Neal Brown.
Same goes with the NFL for QBs which has guys like Jones, Haskins, Rosen, Trubisky, etc... being first round draft picks when they arguably shouldn't have been drafted at all. Then the Rams made a single Super Bowl (and lost) with a young, unproven, offensively minded coach in McVay. Hence with the reactionary nature described above, the Cardinals gambled that Kliff would be the next McVay solely because he was young and offensively minded. The guy has had zero significant successes as a head coach and had no business being elevated to an NFL HC position after his performance in Lubbock.
 

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Then the Rams made a single Super Bowl (and lost) with a young, unproven, offensively minded coach in McVay. Hence with the reactionary nature described above, the Cardinals gambled that Kliff would be the next McVay solely because he was young and offensively minded.
What if the gamble paid off? In a 5 year span, McVey lead the Rams to the playoffs 4 times, into 2 Superbowls winning one. I bet Jerry Jones wished he could pull that off.
 
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What if the gamble paid off? In a 5 year span, McVey lead the Rams to the playoffs 4 times, into 2 Superbowls winning one. I bet Jerry Jones wished he could pull that off.

Then it pays off. But it makes as much logical sense as buying a 40 million lottery expecting to win just because your neighbor won the lottery. It is a gamble far more likely to blow up in your face than succeed.