Committee Chair on Mad Dog Radio-best answer on why no RU
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It’s a clear message to RU that ooc sos needs to get better and I hope Pike hears it. But it just seems so stupid when overall sos is higher than teams who have a high ooc sos but low overall.
I know above you said it’s because they tell you to do it, and those are the rules, but it really makes no sense.
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Q: On top of that, how did Nevada, NC St and Utah State have the wins we had to get in over us?
A: They didn’t!
This guy and his freakin committee can go screw themselves.
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My biggest gripe is how is it the committee could disagree with over 90% of the bracketologists regarding RU. They really do need to better define their selection criteria.
Boeheim got away with it for years by not losing conference games to the lower echelon once January came around. We didn't uphold that with that loss to Minnesota
The bracketologist went by what the committee has done in previous years. They didn’t account for the chairman to come out and basically say “f Rutgers we went by the eye test. Oh yeah we also don’t give a damn about quad 1 wins or who you beat.”
So although folks argued that the committee no longer looks at finish down the line and the committee even saying that changed that they would look at the totality of the season, the reality is the old habits die hard. How you finish does matter regardless of what the committee "officially" says.
The simple fact of the matter, regardless of what this committee guy says, is that if you win the games you're supposed to win then you don't have a problem. A tournament team should go at least 9-2 against our OOC schedule, and at least 20-13, ideally 21-12, against the schedule we played.
Do that and all this masturbation about OOC scheduling means absolutely nothing. If you have a weaker schedule, you need to win more games. That's simple common sense. The issue is the failure to do that, not the schedule.
Did he? Did he not have us in like nearly everyone else? Bringing up some points of concern while still having RU in your bracket is absolutely not "nailing it".
Did the bubble teams that got in have better out of conference performance? Because unless they did, then it's just excuse making from the committee.
So how does our OOC help us gain ACC bias?
How does that explain the weak schedules played by Nevada, Utah St and Boise St?
I’m not against an upgraded OOC but this is BS and we all know it. We are as good or better than 20 teams seeded 5-11. Our metrics against top teams prove it. Close losses and wins on the road. Blowout wins at home.
It’s over now and I’m over it but nobody is ever going to convince me that this wasn’t BS. Just like the non review at OSU and a few other things I’ll keep in my back pocket but we all saw it.
Last year good wins outweighed everything else. This year seemed to be about simply stacking wins with no regard for whether they were any good. It's a moving target.
I think you nailed it. The committee claims it does not count number of bids per conference. I have never believed that.
The B1G was not a nine bid conference this year.
Sorry. - this was a HORRIBLE job by the committee. The four losses could have been used as a rationale, and I would have accepted that, but when they talk about an injured player and strength of schedule, then they enter the world of BS. If that criteria was stated as earlier, then we would not have been in almost every bracket and the NET would have been irrelevant. The committee failed big time by considering factors that were not stated earlier. Bait and switch and excuses - we were robbed.
Scarlet Jerry
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It's fine..
unless you lose 3 out of 4 of Gavitt, SHU, St John's, and Temple which is basically how we play OOC every year.
The heroes crying about meaningless November holiday tournaments are going to be disappointed when they see the schedule for 2023-24......just prepare yourself if we don't see Kentucky, Baylor Gonzaga in back to back games, they're going to tell us for the next 5 years why the schedule applies to RU, but nobody else in the ACC or Mountain West.
Instead of looking at how UNC was 3rd from the field and beat nobody all year, people will realize that the OOC wouldn't have mattered. They have 7 different variations of excuses.
A) NET rating
B) Last 10 games.
C) OOC schedule
D) Q1 road wins
E) Q 3/4 losses
F) Strength of Conference
G) Amount of bathrooms and distance to and from bathrooms at your home arena.
Instead of looking at how UNC was 3rd from the field and beat nobody all year, people will realize that the OOC wouldn't have mattered. They have 7 different variations of excuses.
A) NET rating
B) Last 10 games.
C) OOC schedule
D) Q1 road wins
E) Q 3/4 losses
F) Strength of Conference
G) Amount of bathrooms and distance to and from bathrooms at your home arena.
I think as well you need to use logic at some point. We were even with a number one seed. We were 7-8 vs the field. We legitimately could have made a run. We were #4 defense in the nation. Very low iq people making these decisions
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When you change the words “holiday tourney” with memphis, oklahoma and siena, it is
The committee chair said that's not how its done. player availability for the tournament is a consideration in seeding and selection. He said it on saturday and again today.
That's honestly scandalous and goes against everything the committees of years past have done.
That's fine, the selection criteria for this tournament is extremely stupid. I'm talking about the actual, reasonable way to do it, not what's actually done.
Like imagine if NFL teams were denied the #1 seed in the playoffs because the QB got hurt in week 17. The entire idea is absurd on its face.
It’s a dumb consideration. We’re just going to write off the first three quarters of a team’s season because a starter gets hurt?
If the QB got hurt in Week 14 and they lost 3 straight games - they aren’t getting a #1.
Our full season resume includes losing all those games after Mag injury.
Agreed. But are they low IQ people? Or are they biased toward certain conferences getting too many teams in when in the recent past that conference hasn't performed well? I believe we gave the committee an out when we lost too many games at the end and especially to teams like Minny and Nebraska. I think the committee was looking to penalize the B1G and unfortunately we were the last team considered.
But the committee chair is going on TV and radio and saying that the absence of Mag was given a weight higher than the games that we lost without him. Which is incredibly stupid.
so next year you can add USC and UCLA and we should still go out and add a few more monsters?
so if we improve it 33% about get it around 225 OOC what will the excuse be next year? Did we know SH or Wake Forest would be ranked as low when scheduled? Temple? ACC team? Those looked pretty good pre-season.
The games, sure. That's a completely different thing. We're talking about docking a team because of injuries, not because of losing games.
Yep, it’s F’in stupid.
I find very it hard to believe the committee would have considered an injury in a negative fashion if it was a Blue blood with our resume (i.e. North Carolina).
We didn’t do ourselves any favors but it’s clear the committee was looking for any reason to keep us/the last BIG10 team out and their mind was made up before the conference tournament.
The amount of PTSD people around here have from the Big Ten laying 1.5 eggs in recent tournaments is second to none.
I really do not think that ADs from like the Atlantic Sun conference share that PTSD.
Yes I feel 100% certain they are low IQ.
Ok so far out reason we weren't picked... maybe the committee noticed bracketmatrix contributors basically picked the field and wanted to prove they weren't useless or obsolete so they decided to pick Nevada to make everyone think they have so kind of legit process. They wanted everyone to still think they were relevant and be able to still keep everyone in suspense.