Compassion Kills: 16 Dead in Mamdani's NYC

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Socialists are going to govern with socialism. It has failed all throughout history. They are either insane or they want absolute power over the people.

Socialism is un-American. No one is crashing borders of a socialist country and begging to come in.

They are running to the United States.

We have socialists trying to change and take over America. Anyone...ANYONE supporting these fools should be removed from our country and forced to live in a socialist country until they come to their senses. What in the hell is wrong with some people?

Disgusting.
 

indyrockstar

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Socialists are going to govern with socialism. It has failed all throughout history. They are either insane or they want absolute power over the people.

Socialism is un-American. No one is crashing borders of a socialist country and begging to come in.

They are running to the United States.

We have socialists trying to change and take over America. Anyone...ANYONE supporting these fools should be removed from our country and forced to live in a socialist country until they come to their senses. What in the hell is wrong with some people?

Disgusting.

We wonder how you can support Izzy at anywhere close to USA level. Anyone that wants to send our tax money to them OR any other country get GTFOH.

Disgusting
 

indyrockstar

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Take down the homeless encampments, force them into shelters. That would cut the number of deaths.

Shelters is not a new strategy. It's about the effectiveness of several groups, working with a budget, and having the to answer to people.

$117 per day in FY2018 for a single adult in a DHS shelter.

In FY2013, total cost for homeless families was $490.6 million, with the city paying $151.2 million.

Emergency shelter services costs 300-400 per day (depending on the services)

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In terms of what is in play before and during Mandani

NYC Migrant Hotel & Services Spending — $4.3B (Calendar Year 2023)
NYC was projected to spend $4.3 billion by the end of 2023 on hotel rooms and services for migrants.

New York State Asylum‑Seeker Spending — $4.3B (State Fiscal Years 2022–23 through 2026–27)
The New York State Comptroller reports that the state plans to spend $4.3 billion total across SFY 2022‑23 to SFY 2026‑27 on asylum‑seeker emergency costs.

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This isn't really about NYC homeless. We need to address the entire country homeless. At least better than what we have currently.

Give homeless a purpose such as working with required guidelines.
 

roadtrasheer

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Shelters is not a new strategy. It's about the effectiveness of several groups, working with a budget, and having the to answer to people.

$117 per day in FY2018 for a single adult in a DHS shelter.

In FY2013, total cost for homeless families was $490.6 million, with the city paying $151.2 million.

Emergency shelter services costs 300-400 per day (depending on the services)

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In terms of what is in play before and during Mandani

NYC Migrant Hotel & Services Spending — $4.3B (Calendar Year 2023)
NYC was projected to spend $4.3 billion by the end of 2023 on hotel rooms and services for migrants.

New York State Asylum‑Seeker Spending — $4.3B (State Fiscal Years 2022–23 through 2026–27)
The New York State Comptroller reports that the state plans to spend $4.3 billion total across SFY 2022‑23 to SFY 2026‑27 on asylum‑seeker emergency costs.

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This isn't really about NYC homeless. We need to address the entire country homeless. At least better than what we have currently.

Give homeless a purpose such as working with required guidelines.
From your post ...
If ICE , border patrol and homeland security does their job we should be able to take care of homeless people? Get rid of illegal immigrants will help if not totally get rid of homeless.
Homeless crisis is made up of people with mental disorders and many want to be homeless. People are lazy and want to live off hand outs . Desperately need asylums , money coming from not putting illegals in fancy motels and feeding them . First have to get rid off sanctuary cities
 

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Shelters is not a new strategy. It's about the effectiveness of several groups, working with a budget, and having the to answer to people.

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This isn't really about NYC homeless. We need to address the entire country homeless. At least better than what we have currently.
You do realize the tens of BILLIONS stolen by Somalians in the recently exposed Minnesota/Democrat party money laundering schemes would have easily funded those NYC homeless programs, and even likely allowed sheltered homeless folks there to purchase their own homes? (based on your published numbers)

Yet you've had zero to say about how much of that legitimate taxpayer aid has been literally siphoned away from needy homeless folks described in your post? Similarly, you've had zero to say about ICE legal efforts to root out illegal aliens (many of them Somalians) from Minnesota who've been taking money away from American homeless citizens (many of them Veterans), and as a matter of fact you've been accusing ICE officers acting to protect Americans from criminal illegals as our real enemy! :mad:

Yet you post those numbers from NYC and expect us to take you seriously, or being for nothing but raw unbridled Socialism run by corrupt Democrat party Socialists? :unsure:

@indyrockstar

Damn... it sure hurts when atl calls out my hypocrisy like this...oh boo...hooh!


Flake :rolleyes:
 

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You do realize the tens of BILLIONS stolen by Somalians in the recently exposed Minnesota/Democrat party money laundering schemes would have easily funded those NYC homeless programs, and even likely allowed sheltered homeless folks there to purchase their own homes? (based on your published numbers)

Yet you've had zero to say about how much of that legitimate taxpayer aid has been literally siphoned away from needy homeless folks described in your post? Similarly, you've had zero to say about ICE legal efforts to root out illegal aliens (many of them Somalians) from Minnesota who've been taking money away from American homeless citizens (many of them Veterans), and as a matter of fact you've been accusing ICE officers acting to protect Americans from criminal illegals as our real enemy! :mad:

Yet you post those numbers from NYC and expect us to take you seriously, or being for nothing but raw unbridled Socialism run by corrupt Democrat party Socialists? :unsure:

@indyrockstar

Damn... it sure hurts when atl calls out my hypocrisy like this...oh boo...hooh!


Flake :rolleyes:
Only solution to every problem democrats face is raise taxes. Take Virginia, a republican cut taxes and left with a surplus a new democrat get in and automatically raised taxes.
Democrats need dependent/victims so they make people be dependent and tell all they are victims of capitalism. Take freedoms and give "free stuff"
 

atlkvb

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Only solution to every problem democrats face is raise taxes. Take Virginia, a republican cut taxes and left with a surplus a new democrat get in and automatically raised taxes.
Democrats need dependent/victims so they make people be dependent and tell all they are victims of capitalism. Take freedoms and give "free stuff"
Correct. They will always support that, and those who always support them will always be silent in their support of it!
 

indyrockstar

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You do realize the tens of BILLIONS stolen by Somalians in the recently exposed Minnesota/Democrat party money laundering schemes would have easily funded those NYC homeless programs, and even likely allowed sheltered homeless folks there to purchase their own homes? (based on your published numbers)

Yet you've had zero to say about how much of that legitimate taxpayer aid has been literally siphoned away from needy homeless folks described in your post? Similarly, you've had zero to say about ICE legal efforts to root out illegal aliens (many of them Somalians) from Minnesota who've been taking money away from American homeless citizens (many of them Veterans), and as a matter of fact you've been accusing ICE officers acting to protect Americans from criminal illegals as our real enemy! :mad:

Yet you post those numbers from NYC and expect us to take you seriously, or being for nothing but raw unbridled Socialism run by corrupt Democrat party Socialists? :unsure:

@indyrockstar

Damn... it sure hurts when atl calls out my hypocrisy like this...oh boo...hooh!


Flake :rolleyes:

gibberish
 

indyrockstar

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From your post ...
If ICE , border patrol and homeland security does their job we should be able to take care of homeless people? Get rid of illegal immigrants will help if not totally get rid of homeless.
Homeless crisis is made up of people with mental disorders and many want to be homeless. People are lazy and want to live off hand outs . Desperately need asylums , money coming from not putting illegals in fancy motels and feeding them . First have to get rid off sanctuary cities

ICE, border patrol, homeland security, stop donating any of our tax money to Izzy, make USA #1 again by keeping our tax money for USA people first, etc...
 

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Shelters is not a new strategy. It's about the effectiveness of several groups, working with a budget, and having the to answer to people.

$117 per day in FY2018 for a single adult in a DHS shelter.

In FY2013, total cost for homeless families was $490.6 million, with the city paying $151.2 million.

Emergency shelter services costs 300-400 per day (depending on the services)

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

In terms of what is in play before and during Mandani

NYC Migrant Hotel & Services Spending — $4.3B (Calendar Year 2023)
NYC was projected to spend $4.3 billion by the end of 2023 on hotel rooms and services for migrants.

New York State Asylum‑Seeker Spending — $4.3B (State Fiscal Years 2022–23 through 2026–27)
The New York State Comptroller reports that the state plans to spend $4.3 billion total across SFY 2022‑23 to SFY 2026‑27 on asylum‑seeker emergency costs.

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This isn't really about NYC homeless. We need to address the entire country homeless. At least better than what we have currently.

Give homeless a purpose such as working with required guidelines.
The good liberals are afraid to take away the right to die of homeless. FYI, it's not really a concern until they start piling up like the garbage in NYC
 
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stop donating any of our tax money to Izzy, make USA #1 again by keeping our tax money for USA people first, etc...
But let's not call out illegal ailiens stealing it or even deporting them if they're here illegally?

You do realize more money has been stolen or wasted on scams like USAID, and other Leftist NGO's than our entire annual aid package to Israel? 🤔

Why are you even "pretending" to be America first?

You're more of a fraud than the Leftist scams you constantly ignore stealing American taxpayer's hard earned money!

STFU.🤨
 
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But let's not call out illegal ailiens stealing it or even deporting them if they're here illegally?

You do realize more money has been stolen or wasted on scams like USAID, and other Leftist NGO's than our entire annual aid package to Israel? 🤔

Why are you even "pretending" to be America first?

You're more of a fraud than the Leftist scams you constantly ignore stealing American taxpayer's hard earned money!

STFU.🤨

gibberish
 

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We wonder how you can support Izzy at anywhere close to USA level. Anyone that wants to send our tax money to them OR any other country get GTFOH.

Disgusting

Don't be ignorant. I said I support Israel.

You make up at what level I support it and tell it as the gospel?

Stop denying that you are a typical leftist.

That's exactly what they do best.
 
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30CAT

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Shelters is not a new strategy. It's about the effectiveness of several groups, working with a budget, and having the to answer to people.

$117 per day in FY2018 for a single adult in a DHS shelter.

In FY2013, total cost for homeless families was $490.6 million, with the city paying $151.2 million.

Emergency shelter services costs 300-400 per day (depending on the services)

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

In terms of what is in play before and during Mandani

NYC Migrant Hotel & Services Spending — $4.3B (Calendar Year 2023)
NYC was projected to spend $4.3 billion by the end of 2023 on hotel rooms and services for migrants.

New York State Asylum‑Seeker Spending — $4.3B (State Fiscal Years 2022–23 through 2026–27)
The New York State Comptroller reports that the state plans to spend $4.3 billion total across SFY 2022‑23 to SFY 2026‑27 on asylum‑seeker emergency costs.

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This isn't really about NYC homeless. We need to address the entire country homeless. At least better than what we have currently.

Give homeless a purpose such as working with required guidelines.

We used to. Then government stepped in to help.

Over half are substance abusers or mentally ill.

We don't "fix it" by handing out syringes and legalizing drugs. We don't fix it with sanctuary cities and open borders either.

We don't "fix it" with "guaranteed income," free phones, food and housing.

Socialism doesn't work. It's been proven throughout history, but dumbasses keep telling us that's the answer.

Get illegals the f**k out. Get rid of sanctuary cities. Hospitalize the mentally ill. Send away those with addictions to get reformed. Help those who WANT TO HELP THEMSELVES, not those who just want handouts. Incentivize people, don't teach them to be "victims." Make abled-bodied people work for their handouts....That incentivizes. This s**t of free everything is killing us. Socialism doesn't work.
 

atlkvb

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Izzy the only problem you have ?
He's a straight up fraud. How in the Hell can you worry about the pittance we grant annually to Israel's self defense yet totally ignore the literally BILLIONS stolen from us each year by those phony Democrat affiliated NGO's or Leftist money laundering scams being run by Foreigners siphoning from the bogus USAID?

White House Releases List of USAID 'Waste and Abuse' on Everything from Al Qaeda to Trans Operas

"For decades, the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) has been unaccountable to taxpayers as it funnels massive sums of money to the ridiculous — and, in many cases, malicious — pet projects of entrenched bureaucrats, with next-to-no oversight,"

a few examples:
  • "A whopping $20 million to create a Sesame Street in Iraq
  • $2 million for Moroccan pottery classes and promotion
  • $2 million promoting tourism to Lebanon
  • More than $9 million of USAID's 'humanitarian aid' intended to feed civilians in Syria ended up in the hands of violent terrorists, including an affiliate of Al Qaeda in Iraq."

Hey @indyrockstar ...you upset about any of this?
 
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roadtrasheer

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He's a straight up fraud. How in the Hell can you worry about the pittance we grant annually to Israel's self defense yet totally ignore the literally BILLIONS stolen from us each year by those phony Democrat affiliated NGO's or Leftist money laundering scams being run by Foreigners siphoning from the bogus USAID?

White House Releases List of USAID 'Waste and Abuse' on Everything from Al Qaeda to Trans Operas

"For decades, the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) has been unaccountable to taxpayers as it funnels massive sums of money to the ridiculous — and, in many cases, malicious — pet projects of entrenched bureaucrats, with next-to-no oversight,"

a few examples:
  • "A whopping $20 million to create a Sesame Street in Iraq
  • $2 million for Moroccan pottery classes and promotion
  • $2 million promoting tourism to Lebanon
  • More than $9 million of USAID's 'humanitarian aid' intended to feed civilians in Syria ended up in the hands of violent terrorists, including an affiliate of Al Qaeda in Iraq."

Hey @indyrockstar ...you upset about any of this?
Not one of those will fight side by side with us .
I dont agree with everything Israel but I dont hate that we protect them. So many other things our corrupt (both sides) government does to ***** about .
 

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Not one of those will fight side by side with us .
I dont agree with everything Israel but I dont hate that we protect them. So many other things our corrupt (both sides) government does to ***** about .
Israel doesn't steal or waste our money. Leftists do.
 

atlkvb

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Have you ever been to a Jewish community? They play the system and completely play the democrats. Ill drive 20 miles out of my way to keep from driving through one.
I'll never understand Jews who vote Democrat, as they screw with Israel. A good friend of mine who I work with is Jewish and he HATES his people who constantly look the other way as Democrats vote against support for Israel. Drives him nuts. (I love to hear him curse in Yiddish) :ROFLMAO:
 
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I'll never understand Jews who vote Democrat, as they screw with Israel. A good friend of mine who I work with is Jewish and he HATES his people who constantly look the other way as Democrats vote against support for Israel. Drives him nuts. (I love to hear him curse in Yiddish) :ROFLMAO:
Democrats in NJ kiss the Jewish *** for donations and allow them to rob the system clean .
They get married in the eyes of God but never do it through government then get welfare for all the kids and thats just the start of it . I had no idea how bad it was until I had to work in a Jewish community.
 
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indyrockstar

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Don't be ignorant. I said I support Israel.

You make up at what level I support it and tell it as the gospel?

Stop denying that you are a typical leftist.

That's exactly what they do best.

You are fake independent as all you do is make posts badmouthing lefts at every post. We have well established this part.

You are also a fake American. Posting BS religious on why we should support Israel

Get out of my country
 

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We used to. Then government stepped in to help.

Try reading what was quoted. We still are doing it

Over half are substance abusers or mentally ill.

We don't "fix it" by handing out syringes and legalizing drugs. We don't fix it with sanctuary cities and open borders either.

We don't "fix it" with "guaranteed income," free phones, food and housing.

Socialism doesn't work. It's been proven throughout history, but dumbasses keep telling us that's the answer.

No one said guaranteed income.

Black people make a large portion of homeless. You will see them at every light corner begging. Go work a job that can benefit the community and themselves

Could care less about you socialism when you a fake independent

Get illegals the f**k out. Get rid of sanctuary cities. Hospitalize the mentally ill. Send away those with addictions to get reformed. Help those who WANT TO HELP THEMSELVES, not those who just want handouts. Incentivize people, don't teach them to be "victims." Make abled-bodied people work for their handouts....That incentivizes. This s**t of free everything is killing us. Socialism doesn't work.

Hence work for your earnings that was stated before. :cautious:.

Socialist and Illegal is equivalent to gibberish. Rinse and repeat...
 

indyrockstar

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Izzy the only problem you have ?

You already have seen my past posts state it over and over. Today, you forgot because Izzy controls you.. Shocker.

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For the 100s time....

Every country not named USA can go F themselves. It's all in with USA first.

I don't care about any middle east country, south american country, greenland, venezuela, china, etc... Focus on US first and get our **** together. We can redirect the billions you like to give to izzy for the greater good of USA.
 

indyrockstar

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I'll never understand Jews who vote Democrat, as they screw with Israel. A good friend of mine who I work with is Jewish and he HATES his people who constantly look the other way as Democrats vote against support for Israel. Drives him nuts. (I love to hear him curse in Yiddish) :ROFLMAO:

gibberish
 

indyrockstar

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But let's not call out illegal ailiens stealing it or even deporting them if they're here illegally?

You do realize more money has been stolen or wasted on scams like USAID, and other Leftist NGO's than our entire annual aid package to Israel? 🤔

Why are you even "pretending" to be America first?

You're more of a fraud than the Leftist scams you constantly ignore stealing American taxpayer's hard earned money!

STFU.🤨

gibberish x2
 

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@roadtrasheer

Trump is a sellout like the previous presidents.

Go learn about Mariam Johnson and Trump.

USA is giving Izzy 4 billion for 10 years that started in 2019. That doesn't even include the large lump sum of billions that our president/politicians continue to give in the last 2 years.

If you are not disgusted with any of this, then that's on you picking and choosing what benefits your agenda. We should give them ZERO until the end of time. Same goes for every other country not named USA.
 

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@roadtrasheer

Trump is a sellout like the previous presidents.

Go learn about Mariam Johnson and Trump.

USA is giving Izzy 4 billion for 10 years that started in 2019. That doesn't even include the large lump sum of billions that our president/politicians continue to give in the last 2 years.

If you are not disgusted with any of this, then that's on you picking and choosing what benefits your agenda. We should give them ZERO until the end of time. Same goes for every other country not named USA.
Id be happy with stopping fraud in our country first . Our giving to Israel is the lesser of evils in my view. They will fight terrorism and we have a common terrorist. I dont believe they NEED all we give , I do believe many politicians gets kickbacks from them .
 
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You are fake independent as all you do is make posts badmouthing lefts at every post. We have well established this part.

You are also a fake American. Posting BS religious on why we should support Israel

Get out of my country

Well...If the left would stop constantly doing stupid things I wouldn't be "bad-mouthing" would I?

So my faith in God is BS?
 

indyrockstar

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Id be happy with stopping fraud in our country first . Our giving to Israel is the lesser of evils in my view. They will fight terrorism and we have a common terrorist. I dont believe they NEED all we give , I do believe many politicians gets kickbacks from them .

You have been brainwashed to think this way all your life.

If you want to complain about how tax money is being spent but want to look the other way for a foreign country, that's on you not having USA first.

Every country in the middle east is a terrorist.
 

indyrockstar

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Well...If the left would stop constantly doing stupid things I wouldn't be "bad-mouthing" would I?

So my faith in God is BS?

Just admit you are a true republican and stop pretending with this independent nonsenese.

Every posts................EVERY POST is you bitching about lefties, socialist, etc...

Be consistent