As soon as the congressmen figure out how to get their cut of the money they'll do something
What would a lot of those young men do if not for football getting them into a junior college classroom even if for a little while? Some of these small school players aren't making the big bucks but they are getting a scholarship to possibly better their life. What's wrong with that?It's forever wild to me how many Mississippi junior colleges play football and offer scholarships.
Congress needs to address themselves. Or as my PaPaw used to say "mow their own yard before they start mowing the neighbors"Trying to save smaller programs: NIL & NCAA
dorn, I don't disagree at all, but your language sounds just like some corporate press release.I think you could make a very strong case the current state and trajectory of CFB is primarily due to market forces.
"Now, are you going to go ahead and have those TPS reports for us this afternoon?"dorn, I don't disagree at all, but your language sounds just like some corporate press release.
Sure, but if there's money for that scholarship already - it's not like the football program at Co-Lin is sustaining itself and paying for other things like at State. They (taxpayers) are paying for a kid to go to college AND paying for him to play football. Why not just do the college part?What would a lot of those young men do if not for football getting them into a junior college classroom even if for a little while? Some of these small school players aren't making the big bucks but they are getting a scholarship to possibly better their life. What's wrong with that?
More than likely that kid probably wouldn't go to Colin otherwise. It may not help every kid, but i would say it's an investment into getting at least some of these guys a college education even if it's from Colin. They can learn a trade or at least get something past Magee high school which I would think benefits the state if they get a better job and put back into state tax revenue. Although that's not always the case would be good study for the state to do to see how many college athletes at junior colleges in state to see what they are doing now and see if return on investment is good for getting them in school as opposed to others. In my opinion it gives opportunity where otherwise they wouldn't like it get it for some. Lot of poor folks in Mississippi. Gives activities for people to do as well that keeps some of these guys out of trouble. Some not all.Sure, but if there's money for that scholarship already - it's not like the football program at Co-Lin is sustaining itself and paying for other things like at State. They (taxpayers) are paying for a kid to go to college AND paying for him to play football. Why not just do the college part?
I would agree with you and say we probably have too many schools that tax payers can't affordSure, but if there's money for that scholarship already - it's not like the football program at Co-Lin is sustaining itself and paying for other things like at State. They (taxpayers) are paying for a kid to go to college AND paying for him to play football. Why not just do the college part?
I am starting to agree. The desire to win (in football) has superseded everything here. Doesn't matter if it's just ego, revenue or FOMO, but it's there. My evidence:I think you could make a very strong case the current state and trajectory of CFB is primarily due to market forces.
I would like to add that 50 years ago (when college football was still mostly for student athletes) it was obvious that the need for discipline and allocating time for study that athletes (particularly football players) learned while in school many many times translated into them having the tools they needed to go on and attain professional degrees and become very successful in their fields. I know this is now extinct as the dinosaurs but I know that being a true college "student athlete" gave many a young man an otherwise unattainable pathway to success.More than likely that kid probably wouldn't go to Colin otherwise. It may not help every kid, but i would say it's an investment into getting at least some of these guys a college education even if it's from Colin. They can learn a trade or at least get something past Magee high school which I would think benefits the state if they get a better job and put back into state tax revenue. Although that's not always the case would be good study for the state to do to see how many college athletes at junior colleges in state to see what they are doing now and see if return on investment is good for getting them in school as opposed to others. In my opinion it gives opportunity where otherwise they wouldn't like it get it for some. Lot of poor folks in Mississippi. Gives activities for people to do as well that keeps some of these guys out of trouble. Some not all.
Well, if true, it didn't take long for it to start rolling downhill from there. Eric Dickerson signed in 1979 and the Southwest conference was already well into the wild wild west era at that point.I would like to add that 50 years ago (when college football was still mostly for student athletes) it was obvious that the need for discipline and allocating time for study that athletes (particularly football players) learned while in school many many times translated into them having the tools they needed to go on and attain professional degrees and become very successful in their fields. I know this is now extinct as the dinosaurs but I know that being a true college "student athlete" gave many a young man an otherwise unattainable pathway to success.
Do you think they have not been paying taxes? NIL been around for a few years now. I’m sure there are some who will get in trouble over taxes but that happens with non athletes all the time. I’m sure most have and will continue to make tax payments,Just wait Until the IRS starts collecting taxes from these Athletes that think they are getting FREE money!
The key sentence in the article
"Blumenthal said lawmakers are discussing a compromise measure to carve out a special status for college athletes to bargain collectively without having to become employees.
"That might be an option," Blumenthal said. "Enabling collective bargaining without employment status certainly has to be taken seriously. We're talking about a variety of different possibilities."
How does Walker Jones get into every article?
If he wouldn’t go to Co-Lin otherwise, I doubt he’s really putting in the effort to get an educationMore than likely that kid probably wouldn't go to Colin otherwise. It may not help every kid, but i would say it's an investment into getting at least some of these guys a college education even if it's from Colin. They can learn a trade or at least get something past Magee high school which I would think benefits the state if they get a better job and put back into state tax revenue. Although that's not always the case would be good study for the state to do to see how many college athletes at junior colleges in state to see what they are doing now and see if return on investment is good for getting them in school as opposed to others. In my opinion it gives opportunity where otherwise they wouldn't like it get it for some. Lot of poor folks in Mississippi. Gives activities for people to do as well that keeps some of these guys out of trouble. Some not all.
Of course they’re paying their taxes. At least the large majority of them. It’s being reported on 1099s & the players are being provided CPA advice.Do you think they have not been paying taxes? NIL been around for a few years now. I’m sure there are some who will get in trouble over taxes but that happens with non athletes all the time. I’m sure most have and will continue to make tax payments,
There's an obvious loophole: athletes on l y have to report deals worth at least $600. If you want to pay a guy $1MM under the table, just sign him to 2,000 deals worth $500.**It is interesting that when the article gets to how the ncaa curtails pay for play nil deals, Jones and the grove collective make an appearance.
Obviously he makes his stance well, he wants to find creative ways to pay their athletes more than anyone outside the framework.
This is why this system will never work. Unless congress gives the ncaa their power back to hammer those rogue collectives that make deals of pay for play.
Yeah and that’s illegal as hell. Let the IRS get a hold of that one.There's an obvious loophole: athletes on l y have to report deals worth at least $600. If you want to pay a guy $1MM under the table, just sign him to 2,000 deals worth $500.**
That actually sounds pretty cool and would generate loyalty to both local programs. Win, win32 team Super League where each NFL team uses a college program as a minor league academy. ATL & UGA, JAX & FSU, NO & LSU, DAL & UT, HOU & A&M, TB & UF, MIA & The U, etc. All the rest get sent down to lower, amateur division. Sounds crazy but what we have now sounded crazy 10 years ago.
Does it still sound cool if you know for certain that we would not be included in the super league?That actually sounds pretty cool and would generate loyalty to both local programs. Win, win
It actually sounds better that way. I’m tired of getting our brains beat in in football. We’d be competitive in a 2nd tier league if there’s a breakaway.Does it still sound cool if you know for certain that we would not be included in the super league?