Coulda, Shoulda, Woulda

MeridianDog

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I can't get this off my mind.

I blame Ravern Johnson for this loss. He failed the team and the company. When it mattered so much - he failed the company.

Background:

I work for a living. My job is as difficult as anyone else here who works (God bless those of you lucky guys who don't) and every two weeks I get paid. I know for a fact that shoud I fail to perfrom to company standards I will be fired. That is a fact at the company where I work. I am a long timeemployee and I am EXPECTED to perform. I hardly ever get an "Attaboy" and years ago learned to live without them. No one pats me on the butt or hangs a banner in our locker room with anyone's name on it. When there is a better player to put into the game, managementwhere Iworkputs that better player in and I better step back and let them do their stuff, understanding that I will play later.

You are correct - I don't know what Ravern did to earn his suspension. I do know that the head Manager (Stans) said he violated company rules and so he sat out THE MOST IMPORTANT GAME OF OUR YEAR THAT WAS PLAYED LAST NIGHT. If the situation had been me at my job, I would be fired today because I let the company down and cost us a big day of business.

If I am wrong I am wrong, butRavern is an employee of the University Sports program at MSU. As far as MSU Sportsplayer salaries go, he is very well paid - at least as well as everyone else who is a paid athelete for MSU. And what did he do? He violated company rules.Evidently, he chose to violate them and when he didthat, he cost the comapny big time. He may have ruined the year for the company, because in spite of whatever they did, his co-workers were unable to take up the slack he left when he failed the company. No one knows what would have happened had he been at work last night, but as my boss would say, "We certainly knew what happened when you weren't at work!"

MSU Sports, LLC has more than a year invested in every player that starts, two or three or morein most of them. Makes it hard to fire anyone with so much invested, but a case could be madeto fire a workerwho fixed it up so that he sat out the most important game of Tuesday February 16, 2010.

As a stockholder in the company his actions really upset me. As a paying customer I failed to get my money's worth. At the place where I work, Complaints come quickly when we fail. Such is life and where I work, we live and die by our customers.

I love reading this site. I don't agree with a lot of you and still love reading what you write. It is the beauty of this place.One of the things I like is rule 1-b. Ravern should have manned up when it was important. The fact is, we needed him in the game last night. Now, all we have is Coulda, Shoulda, Woulda.

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MeridianDog

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" Vain or selfish person".

He let the team down badly. This should have been his night to pull everything together and shine as a player and leader, and he played the bench. I cna only imagine why.

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tommyboy1520

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College athletics is nothing like a real world job situation, not should it be treated as such by student athletes. Get off your high horse, and get over it. We lost a game we should've won. And a big part of that is because Ravern let his team down. But quit acting like MSU basketball is going to potentially fall apart because of this.
 

MeridianDog

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Tommy Boy said:

"College athletics is nothing like a real world job situation, not should it be treated as such by student athletes. Get off your high horse, and get over it. We lost a game we should've won. And a big part of that is because Ravern let his team down. But quit acting like MSU basketball is going to potentially fall apart because of this."

I disagree. College needs to be exactly like the real world. Everythng needs to be just exactly like the real world. In a short time every colege student will be out in the real world and if college were treated that way, many students would be better workers.

Never fear, Tommyboy - I'll get over this. but you know the team's NCAA hopes are slipping by with each game. We probably need to win out now to make the NCAA, and expectations on this board are high for NCAA partciipation actually at more than first round participaton.

In line with this board's expectatins, everythng is falling apart. Many who read here would see NIT as a failure.

With apologies to Owners of the site, I'm just taking advantage of what I pay to post here to state my mind.</p>
 

tommyboy1520

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NIT would be a failure to me–on this season. But the bigger problem here is that it shouldn't have come to this which is Losing the Kentucky game cost us our shot at the big dance. I'm pissed at Ravern. I'm pissed at the refs. But I'm more pissed at other things earlier in the season that put us where we were last night. And that is, we HAD to beat Kentucky to have a legit shot at the tourney.

So what part of college bball games should be real-world experience for the students in attendance? I mean, if we structure classes to reflect the real world, then student athletes are already getting all the experience they need right there, just like the rest of the student population. So if we extend the real-world scenario to all sporting events for the benefit of the student athlete, there should also be some real-world benefit to the normal student who is there as a spectator. What real-world experience does he/she get?