they also had more staff working on it because they had no financial risk so they were able to use significantly more staff to do the work.
No steps were skipped nor were any corners cut.
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they also had more staff working on it because they had no financial risk so they were able to use significantly more staff to do the work.
No steps were skipped nor were any corners cut.
the vaccines work against all known variants and due to the type of virus the theory is that it will continue to mutate very slowly and the vaccines will be very durable
Come on man, don't be a bigot. Take the jab. Do your part.
I mean we already have alpha, beta, gamma, delta, Iota, kappa, lambda, and 13 other variants of interest the WHO is tracking. That’s 20 in two years. Trying to figure out this slow mutating virus and how we know if the jab protects against all these.
And?
It works. It’s proven to work. It doesn’t take a rocket surgeon to figure it out
You already know the answer to that.
If you can’t read hospital data and see the benefits of the vaccine, then not sure what to tell you.
If you can’t read hospital data and see the benefits of the vaccine, then not sure what to tell you.
The vaxx is valuable for those at risk or with comorbidities who would likely die or be hospitalized. 78% of patients who have been in ICU have been obese. The jab isn’t needed for those in good health and without other age/risk factors. By all means get it if you’re in a risk category. In fact, I encourage it. I’m not, so I will let my body and immune system handle it. But to act like everyone needs it or should get it like some in this thread do, is ignorant.
I’ve read in various places that the control groups were told they’d gotten the placebo so the people in the control group could get the shot if they were afraid of covid.
FDA issues new warning to morons taking ivermectin (animal deworming drug) to treat Covid:
I’m not an Ivermectin guy but it was actually a human medication for infectious diseases spread by parasites, repurposed for animal use. To act like people are just taking animal meds is pretty dishonest of news media.
Agreed. The creators won Nobel Prize in medicine, curing river blindness. Japan ministry of health is/was thinking about using it widely (recently) against C19...although I think they need more worldwide RCTs.
This link is from the NIH website... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7539925/
To act like it is completely absurd and solely farm animal meds is dishonest. People shouldnt rely on it for C19 - but no need to disparage it, as it has other quality uses.
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Not referring to anyone here, but the fact that people will eagerly accept something as controversial as this but refuse to take a vaccine that has been proven to be effective over populations of hundreds of millions of people is truly baffling to me.
Yea, the control group did their job. So why wouldn't they tell them that? Besides, the 30-40% of adults who haven't gotten shots are a much larger/better control group now. See hospitalizations & deaths.
If that's where we are then I'm good with morons taking it in 2000 lb. animal doses. Just let your immune system work by not going to the emergency room.
So many cult members in here who are so delusional that they will blindly adopt the belief fed to them by corrupt bureaucrats and controlled corporate media.
Like with everything else, you'll act smug about it, adopt the narrative given to you, and then turn on anyone who dares to not live by your ideology.
Like with everything else, you'll act smug about it, adopt the narrative given to you, and then turn on anyone who dares to not live by your ideology.
You misquote the study - 78% of patients in the ICU were either overweight or obese, while 73.6% of the population is overweight or obese. Only 50.2% of people in the ICU were obese, compared to 42.5% of the population that was obese. It's a risk factor, but not an overwhelming risk factor, given these numbers. That leaves non-overweight people as 26.4% of the population and 22% of the ICU admissions. This works out to a risk factor of only 1.42 for obese people compared to non-obese people.
Do you have some crayons you can loan someone so they can write it out for you?
I agree with that, but what he is referring to is that when the placebo group asked, they were told they had gotten a placebo and then they could get vaccinated later on if they wanted. That negatively effects the protocols of the study. However, what is still relevant is the vaccinated group had only a small number of infections and no hospitalizations in the Moderna study, while the placebo group had many more cases and some hospitalizations - so we can still conclude from that the vaccine worked although the efficacy numbers are in some doubt.
Your point that the reality of what we are seeing with hospital IC units which are primarily getting unvaxed patients is valid and extremely important IMO.
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CNN just told me 79% of these ICU numbers everyone keeps crying about are obese.....
So, can anyone clarify that?
So, can anyone clarify that?
The FDA has approved the Pfizer vaccine. As a result, the Pentagon will mandate vaccines for military members.
If the vaccine is good enough for our men and women in uniform, than surely it’s good enough for someone with a medical degree from YouTube University who did their residency at Facebook Meme Hospital.
If the vaccine is good enough for our men and women in uniform, than surely it’s good enough for someone with a medical degree from YouTube University who did their residency at Facebook Meme Hospital.
People that are willfully unhealthy don’t want to accept that their choices have consequences.
That’s your clarification.
Probably don’t want to judge quality of medical care by what we feel is good enough for our military, and especially veterans.
This post is DRIPPING with irony..
Trust facebook conspiracy theorists, but not your MD
That’s a different topic for a different day with the bottom line of our government appreciates our military members IF they’re still considered useful. Once they’re no longer deemed useful, they’re often tossed aside like yesterday’s garbage.
He’s in so deep he can’t see it. Partisans of all stripes are essentially cult members.
Everything he claims the other side does, his side does too. Both sides have official narratives. Both sides believe their narrative is correct and the other side’s narrative is wrong. Black or white. No shades of gray.
Both sides fancy themselves as free thinkers and their opponents sheep, all while displaying sheep-like behavior both ways.
I can't clarify that but it does make sense to me since I'll bet there is a correlation between unvaccinated people and obesity. I'll also bet that there is a correlation between unvaccinated people and low education levels, but that is another conversation.
It’s actually not as straight forward as you’d expect when you correlate vaccine rates to education. Data shows the groups with highest mean of vaccination are people with bachelors and masters. People with doctorate are actually closer to people with HS education.
Of course, just stating this makes me want to clarify that I do think vaccines are a good thing.
Another thing that makes me uncomfortable is the argument that only obese people are at risk with covid. Two problems with this. America is kind of a fat country so that means we are more at risk — the average American is at risk. Secondly, vaccines don’t just protect the person vaccinated, but also help stop spread to unvaccinated.
Another thing I’m not comfortable with is the political polarization of covid information. To restate, I am pro vaccine, but I think we find ourselves today in a place where no news contrary to being pro vaccine or anti vaccine gets daylight.
Not an overwhelming factor? Outside of age, it is the next greatest factor. It is associated with heart disease, breathing issues, and diabetes. Among 71,491 U.S. adults who were hospitalized with COVID-19, 27.8 percent were overweight and 50.2 were obese. Obesity was also linked to increased risk for hospitalization and death, especially among those under age 65. As BMI rose, so did the risk, the CDC found. Perfectly healthy people under 50 are in little danger of Covid.
Stating that 50% were obese actually detracts from your argument. That means 50% were not. So, obesity raises risk (shocker), but that’s a whole lot of people who aren’t obese.
Regardless, we are talking in circles.
I bet the overwhelming majority of people hospitalized were right handed, too.
If you tell me half the people in icu are obese, and you tell me over 40% of people in general are obese... you're telling me that half of icu admissions still come from the 60% of people who aren't obese. Obesity is a risk factor. Not being obese doesn't mean you're not at risk.
Exactly. Some have been convinced that politicians are the end-all and not ourselves or the people we are supposed to trust the most.
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Hesitancy is surveyed, not randomly polled and it's not a study of people who have actually been vaccinated...
Nice try though.
This data is a little outdated. But it's actual data, not a a "survey"
More data. Not measuring hesitancy. But measuring whether or not somebody has actually gotten it.
I've got an advanced degree and would have answered back in the winter or spring that I was "hesitant", but I also knew I would eventually get it. I ended up getting it the first week I was eligible in March.
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