Covid and vaccinations

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Numbers like these and other cases where hospitals say “number of people in hospital with Covid, number of people in hospital in icu with Covid” can be a little misleading. I think to get the full picture you would also need to know how many of those people were already at the hospital or in the icu for another reason. This information is never included in stats published by media, hospitals, etc.
 

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Lol, Jameslee still posting lies. Ivermectin has been approved for Covid treatment in 79 countries and was the sole reason that India's most populous city (and a very low vax rate) basically eradicated Covid.
I would love ANY of the Coronobros to explain how India is only 123rd in the world in deaths per million population... while only being 5% vaxxed?

The ONLY possible answer is the issuance of Ivermectin to the gen pop.

I'm willing to be proven wrong... and the rest of the world would LOVE to know India's secret...
 
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This is the bizarre part: more people have now died in 2021 WITH A VAXX than in 2020 WITHOUT A VAXX.

So... the vaxx helped... how????
About half of this year's deaths occurred in the first two months of the year, in the big winter wave that rose up before we were vaccinating. January 2021 was the worst month of deaths in the entire pandemic. As of February 1, only about 2% of seniors were fully vaccinated. We didn't even hit 50% of seniors fully vaccinated until end of March, when that wave was over. We had a lot more deaths before mass vaccination that we've had since, and the deaths that have occurred since have been predominantly in the people still unvaccinated. Vaccines have absolutely helped. You just have to actually go look at the data with an open mind rather than listening uncritically to propaganda.
 

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May be a meme of 1 person and text
 
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Ok, So who is making the call on what is considered "Credible" How is "level of credibility" (low, medium, etc.) determined? Are they relying on Snopes "fact checkers"? LOL.

CNN isn't just "left biased" it can be classified as extreme left just as OANN is getting the "extreme right" label. Some could challenge the "extreme right" label of Newsmax.

I didn’t categorize these outlets. I can accept CNN as extreme left, as they’ve had to run retractions and have been sued for libel many times. Doesn’t hurt my feelings. I don’t watch cable news aka infotainment. ****’ll make you dumb.

Newsmax peddled the Dominion hilarity until they got sued for billions and backed down really fast and scrubbed all of those Dominion stories from their servers. That means they know they were peddling falsities and couldn’t fight it in court. (Newsmax issued an apology and settled the suit in April 2021. You don’t publicly apologize and settle if what you’re saying was true.)
 
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Did you read under their funding that a major source of their revenue is from GOOGLE ADSENSE"
Oh yeah. Google bad. I forgot.

What’s a good right wing search engine I can use?

List one and I’ll do the same searches.”_____ media bias rating” and see what comes back.

Bottom line is you’re going to believe what your biases tell you. That goes for you, me and everyone else. I try to read news items from various sources and form my own opinions. I avoid the TV punditry like the plague. Some jackass pundit yelling loudly about how terrible the “other side” is doesn’t do anything but confirm biases. When Americans - red or blue - understand that **** ain’t news but more akin to comfort food for their ideology, we’ll all be better off.
 

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Several observations.
- If you go to Google and search on anything about COVID, and then go to an unfiltered search engine and do the same you get drastically different results. That's very scary to me.
- There are drastically different levels of risk of death from COVID between my 13 year old daughter and my 82 year old father. For the government to look at them both equally and dictate they both are REQUIRED to get it is treasonous in my opinion.
- My father almost died from the vaccine. He had 2 strokes in succession after the vaccine and was ultimately completely cleared of any potential risk for another one (full body angiography which show no plaque or clotting) but was put on blood thinners because "the vaccine does have a tendency to cause clotting" per the cardiologist. My issue isn't that it almost killed him or that it wasn't hardly even acknowledged until after he had his second stroke for absolutely no reason. My issue is that even after all of that we were never offered a yellow card to log it against the vaccine. So even when a Dr has done everything they can to blame it on something else, but they can't find anything else and have to admit it was the vaccine, they still don't offer or log it against the vaccine so we have data to better understand the side effects. That's a huge issue as well.
- Decisions in the US are being made by a very small group of people that are turning a blind eye to studies around the world that are showing that there are other ways to approach or attack the virus without vaccine which also points to ulterior motives.

If you don't see these as reasons to challenge the need for the vaccine you are the definition of a sheep.
Scientist and doctors just like everyone else with high paying jobs want to keep their jobs. Just like with global warming these people are just following the money.
 
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Ok, So who is making the call on what is considered "Credible" How is "level of credibility" (low, medium, etc.) determined? Are they relying on Snopes "fact checkers"? LOL.

CNN isn't just "left biased" it can be classified as extreme left just as OANN is getting the "extreme right" label. Some could challenge the "extreme right" label of Newsmax.
CNN, MSNBC, NBC, CBS, NPR, and some others are all far left leaning mouth pieces who stay afloat with outside assistance otherwise they would have already gone under.
 

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Several observations.
- If you go to Google and search on anything about COVID, and then go to an unfiltered search engine and do the same you get drastically different results. That's very scary to me.
NEws flash, every search engine is going to return different results. They use different algorithms to produce results and scrub the internet for data. They track your web activity differently. Goggle will especially cater results based on your web history, particularly if you have a Google account. The more you use one search engine, the more likely it is to present more customized results as it learns more of your behavior on their site.
 
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Ok, So who is making the call on what is considered "Credible" How is "level of credibility" (low, medium, etc.) determined? Are they relying on Snopes "fact checkers"? LOL.

CNN isn't just "left biased" it can be classified as extreme left just as OANN is getting the "extreme right" label. Some could challenge the "extreme right" label of Newsmax.
🤣
 

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Did you read under their funding that a major source of their revenue is from GOOGLE ADSENSE"
As is the case for a large number of websites. Basically all you got to do is place the code on your website for Google Adsense to run ads on your website and boom you're making money from Google Adsense.
 

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NEws flash, every search engine is going to return different results. They use different algorithms to produce results and scrub the internet for data. They track your web activity differently. Goggle will especially cater results based on your web history, particularly if you have a Google account. The more you use one search engine, the more likely it is to present more customized results as it learns more of your behavior on their site.
As I also said, compare the differences what is returned and how it’s slanted. And way to ignore all other points made. Very typical to choose one thing to pick on, but ignore other points that are valid.
 

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As I also said, compare the differences what is returned and how it’s slanted. And way to ignore all other points made. Very typical to choose one thing to pick on, but ignore other points that are valid.
Exactly.
 

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As I also said, compare the differences what is returned and how it’s slanted. And way to ignore all other points made. Very typical to choose one thing to pick on, but ignore other points that are valid.
Sorry to break your fragile ego, but I didn’t care enough to comment about the rest. Your not that important.
 

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Wonder how much this Merck COVID pill will cost? Hopefully it's free to the patient as well. Would be a game changer if so, and if the supply is there. Obviously if the supply isn't there then it's a moot point entirely.
 

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Lol, new Merck pill is a rip off of ivermectin. Of course that's how you get Covid bros to buy into ivermectin. Just tweek it and relabel at as a new Covid pill

Pharma is the new religion
These people are strait up lemmings and dumber than a box or rocks. It's incredible.

"The vaccine is the cure" OK!
"But, you must have a booster to keep it strong" OK!
"Well, the booster is only good for so 6-8 months" OK!
"Well, the vaccine is not a cure but a way to keep the symptoms less." OK!
"Must make vaccine mandatory in order to eradicate this virus" OK!
"Might have to take boosters every 6-8 months from now on out" OK!"
"We are making a pill that you have to take everyday to keep the virus at bay" OK

Big Pharma and politicians are saying O.K. this worked better than planned.
 
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Lol, new Merck pill is a rip off of ivermectin. Of course that's how you get Covid bros to buy into ivermectin. Just tweek it and relabel at as a new Covid pill

Pharma is the new religion

I'm curious what makes you say this. What similarities are there in the two drugs? Because it appears there are no similarities in their mode of synthesis, their chemical structures, or their mechanism of actions.

Also, are you even sure you're connecting the right conspiracy theory to the right drug? Because I heard the exact same conspiracy theory just the other day on this same forum (untrue in this case as well) about the Pfizer pill (ritonavir, an an antiviral used to treat HIV) as about this Merck pill (molnupiravir, and antiviral developed initially to treat flu).
 

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I'm curious what makes you say this. What similarities are there in the two drugs? Because it appears there are no similarities in their mode of synthesis, their chemical structures, or their mechanism of actions.

Also, are you even sure you're connecting the right conspiracy theory to the right drug? Because I heard the exact same conspiracy theory just the other day on this same forum (untrue in this case as well) about the Pfizer pill (ritonavir, an an antiviral used to treat HIV) as about this Merck pill (molnupiravir, and antiviral developed initially to treat flu).

Lol, it's ivermectin relabeled.
 
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