Covid cold

[bulldoghair]

Unequivocally yes, they helped a lot. There's a ton of data on it. But if you're questioning this, then im sure you'll question the scientific research put into it

The same agencies pushing those lies were caught deleting emails, changing definitions, and burying inconvenient studies.
Wearing a surgical mask in public to stop COVID is like putting up a chain link fence to keep mosquitoes out. Anyone still defending them in 2026 still doesnt have any common sense they should have had in 2020, and or never looked at the data, or liked that feeling of being told what to do. IMO, the mask thing was another tool and tactic to keep and divide society and also test how far they could push behavioral modification before people pushed back ect. Masks in public was a psyop.

 

[paindonthurt]

There's a ton of data on it.

ton of data that they didn’t help.

 

[basedawg]

My wife was diagnosed with rheumatoid Arthritis, and lymphedema shortly after COVID.

Since Covid and or the vaccine she is always in pain and has never fully found remission.

My wife has RA, I can tell you she studies and researches her symptoms more so than any Doctor. She got tested for what foods she is allergic to and she takes a weekly shot. She got diagnose whit RA about 10 years ago. It's amazing watching and realizing what she eats plus the shot is amazing. Btw, she eats organic and is gluten free.
I want say anything on my thoughts with covid shot.

 

[onewoof]

The same agencies pushing those lies were caught deleting emails, changing definitions, and burying inconvenient studies.
Wearing a surgical mask in public to stop COVID is like putting up a chain link fence to keep mosquitoes out. Anyone still defending them in 2026 still doesnt have any common sense they should have had in 2020, and or never looked at the data, or liked that feeling of being told what to do. IMO, the mask thing was another tool and tactic to keep and divide society and also test how far they could push behavioral modification before people pushed back ect. Masks in public was a psyop.

 

[The Peeper]

And just recently as today, I had a 24 hour shiit/puke session of just foam and water, which is currently subsided.

 

[Darryl Steight]

Our bodies are amazing things to fight off what all is out there every minute of the day.

...if we don't over-medicate ourselves and over-sterilize everything and actually let our immune systems work.

 

[bulldoghair]

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I never said anything about 5G, nano vaxx chips, or NWO toilet paper surveillance rolls. That’s your strawman, not mine. Agencies got caught lying, deleting emails, changing definitions. And public masking became a massive behavioral compliance test and social division tool- which worked beautifully. You didn’t refute any of that. Masks were theater. That’s not a conspiracy theory. That’s observable reality.

 

[Ranchdawg]

My wife and I got sick at the beginning of December. At first we thought it was just a cold but we got worse after a week. We tested negative for the COVID and flu. We ended up with pneumonia and missed Christmas with the family. It lasted for 4 weeks before we felt we were free of it. Our community was hit hard by it. They closed the school the day before they normally get out for Christmas. Everyone we know tested negative for flu or the COVID.

 

[Colonel Angus.sixpack]

you've had it multiple times by now, you have been fortunate to be asymptomatic thus far

Or I have superhuman genetics and immune systems. There’s a reason the doctors want to take a blood sample at my yearly checkup. They need to study it so they can create more super humans like me. Suck it, normals.

 

[HailStout]

I yelled at people a lot during Covid about my feelings on the shot and disease. All it did was make me angry and make them double down on their stance. It also made whoever I was yelling at hate me and I in turn hated them. It accomplished nothing besides both of us being able to beat our chest about….whatever. I still lose myself occasionally, but I try to have respect for the person I am talking to. You get a lot further that way.

 

[HailStout]

Or I have superhuman genetics and immune systems. There’s a reason the doctors want to take a blood sample at my yearly checkup. They need to study it so they can create more super humans like me. Suck it, normals.

This you?

 

[ckDOG]

Good lord, its like we went back in time 6 years with this frustratingly simplistic question.

Below is an honest rundown of mask effectiveness, based on countless governmental and private health studies released this decade.
Fun fact- this information is readily available to you through your favorite search engine.


- High proper use of proper masks helped to measurably reduce infection in some instances.
- High proper use of proper masks did not measurably reduce infection in some instances.
- Low proper use of proper masks did not measurably reduce infection in some instances.
- Low improper use of proper masks did not measurably reduce infection in most instances.
- Low use of proper masks did not measurably reduce infection in most instances.

It was an easy low impact/low effort way to make life a little safer for people with crappier immune systems (elders, cancer treatment patients, etc.). This was an easy thing to do and expect it help at a MICRO level. Wasn't going to "beat" Covid but it might save the old lady's life that needed to get out to buy groceries or go to drug store. Or keep a healthy adult from taking it home to their sick child. That's worth the mild inconvenience for most people and still bizarre to me that so many freaked out about it. It was like empathy and baseline self-preservation was viewed as being weak or compliant. Humans are weird.

If we should be mad at the government/health experts/media, it should be over messaging and implying humans had real control of the pandemic at the MACRO level and could beat it in a manageable time frame. 2 things come to mind:

1) Remember 15 days to slow the spread? Yeah you can slow it (and save some old people and sick kids) but the 15 days gives false expectations of true control. When we didn't get past it early on, people understandably got very frustrated and checked out of listening.

2) implying a vaccine for a coronavirus (same family as colds) would work the same as a polio vaccine. There's a reason we don't have a common cold vaccine and a reason why something like influenza can't be controlled the same way as polio or measles can. This too gave false expectations of a knock out solution. I fell for this one.

The expert crowd would have been far better off swallowing their ego and pride by acknowledging the limitations that humans have in pandemics of a novel virus. Be honest and admit that you can only soften the blow and you really don't know what a novel virus is going to do. Don't imply you can fix it and under some time frame. Basically, don't imply "this for that". When "that" didn't happen, you lose legitimacy and gives the "it's not real" and "masks don't do anything at all" people the room they need to make the situation worse than it needed to be.

 

[HailStout]

It was an easy low impact/low effort way to make life a little safer for people with crappier immune systems (elders, cancer treatment patients, etc.). This was an easy thing to do and expect it help at a MICRO level. Wasn't going to "beat" Covid but it might save the old lady's life that needed to get out to buy groceries or go to drug store. Or keep a healthy adult from taking it home to their sick child. That's worth the mild inconvenience for most people and still bizarre to me that so many freaked out about it. It was like empathy and baseline self-preservation was viewed as being weak or compliant. Humans are weird.

If we should be mad at the government/health experts/media, it should be over messaging and implying humans had real control of the pandemic at the MACRO level and could beat it in a manageable time frame. 2 things come to mind:

1) Remember 15 days to slow the spread? Yeah you can slow it (and save some old people and sick kids) but the 15 days gives false expectations of true control. When we didn't get past it early on, people understandably got very frustrated and checked out of listening.

2) implying a vaccine for a coronavirus (same family as colds) would work the same as a polio vaccine. There's a reason we don't have a common cold vaccine and a reason why something like influenza can't be controlled the same way as polio or measles can. This too gave false expectations of a knock out solution. I fell for this one.

The expert crowd would have been far better off swallowing their ego and pride by acknowledging the limitations that humans have in pandemics of a novel virus. Be honest and admit that you can only soften the blow and you really don't know what a novel virus is going to do. Don't imply you can fix it and under some time frame. Basically, don't imply "this for that". When "that" didn't happen, you lose legitimacy and gives the "it's not real" and "masks don't do anything at all" people the room they need to make the situation worse than it needed to be.

Bravo

go back to my post about doctors lacking the ability to say “I don’t know”. If they just would’ve led every press conference with “what we are telling you now is what we are seeing but this is a moving target and we truly don’t understand everything about this disease. Our story may change tomorrow. We are not lying to you. We are just trying to give you the best information we can find as this happens.” instead they simply presented everything as fact, so as their story changed, it looked like they were lying. My story with Covid changed month-to-month as I experienced it. But it was other doctors I was telling about it. They understood. You can’t tell the general public things like they are fact when you don’t know it is especially when you were supposed to be the nations go to

 

[Dawg22]

Does it help to wear a mask in your vehicle? Also, is it better to wear it over your nose and mouth or just over your mouth? I've seen it done different ways, but I need to know what is best.

 

[stateu1]

Are we still 17'n talking about this?

 

[greenbean.sixpack]

 

[ckDOG]

Are we still 17'n talking about this?

Don't worry. We have high expectations for baseball. The board will warm up after we inevitably drop 1 to Hofstra this weekend and the first fahr O'connelz thread is kicked off...

 

[mstateglfr]

The answer is “masks had very little effect on the spread of COVID. Vaccines had very little effect on the spread of COVID but did help reduce the symptoms of COVID.”

sorry you can’t admit that even 6 years later.

Yeah, I would accept that synopsis as a general viewpoint.

 

[paindonthurt]

Yeah, I would accept that synopsis as a general viewpoint.

Nice you are making progress albeit very slow.

 

[ckDOG]

The same agencies pushing those lies were caught deleting emails, changing definitions, and burying inconvenient studies.
Wearing a surgical mask in public to stop COVID is like putting up a chain link fence to keep mosquitoes out. Anyone still defending them in 2026 still doesnt have any common sense they should have had in 2020, and or never looked at the data, or liked that feeling of being told what to do. IMO, the mask thing was another tool and tactic to keep and divide society and also test how far they could push behavioral modification before people pushed back ect. Masks in public was a psyop.

3 questions:

1) who is they?
2) assuming "they" did this, how much control can you extrapolate that they can get over you after you comply by wearing a 4 gram piece of fabric on your face? First mask, then what? Wear helmet? Pay more taxes? Remove penis?
3) were they also involved in historical pandemics where masking was a general expected measure and what did they gain from that psyop?

 

[onewoof]

THEY control the entire planet and ALL GOVERNMENTS AND ALL DOCTORS. Billions of minds controlled across the globe! Not just the dysfunctional United States. THE ENTIRE WORLD.

 

[RocketDawg]

I don't know about y'all, but I think COVID did some irreparable damage to my lungs, throat, and sinuses. Now every time I get a cold it lingers, especially the cough. Either that or I just keep getting COVID every winter.

This years is particularly unpleasant in the mucus department.

One of my friends had Covid several months ago, and he and his wife had a really hard time with it. Now, after all that time, he still as a hacking cough hanging on. Pulmonologist says his lungs are clear, but the cough remains. Don't know about his wife.

He smokes a pipe, virtually non-stop, so I think that's the main issue along with Covid.

I had something that caused a cough back around Thanksgiving. It lasted almost 2 weeks but then cleared and no problem since then. No fever or congestion, just a cough.

 

[mstateglfr]

Nice you are making progress albeit very slow.

No dude, you just continually declare I think things I dont think, so when you finally accept what I am saying isnt the offensive thing you thought my position was, you think I am 'making progress'.

A handful of months ago you claimed I was some crazy covid fundie back in 20 and 21 and that you could 'bring receipts'. I then linked multiple threads that showed my comments were quite middle of the road and have held up as very reasonable.

Its absurd that someone is even still bringing up the misrepresented argument @preacher_dawg posted.

 

[paindonthurt]

No dude, you just continually declare I think things I dont think, so when you finally accept what I am saying isnt the offensive thing you thought my position was, you think I am 'making progress'.

A handful of months ago you claimed I was some crazy covid fundie back in 20 and 21 and that you could 'bring receipts'. I then linked multiple threads that showed my comments were quite middle of the road and have held up as very reasonable.

Its absurd that someone is even still bringing up the misrepresented argument @preacher_dawg posted.

Nah it’s not absurd to point out all the crazy things yall did during covid!!

 

[Dawgbite]

I never had Covid, or at least haven’t tested positive, but 2 out of the past three years I’ve gotten what feels like a cold that settles in my throat. Never have any chest congestion. My throat closes up, I loose my voice, and I cough constantly. Whatever this is, it hangs on for six plus weeks. Nothing touches it medicine wise. I’ve been to regular doctors, ENT’s, and pulmonary Drs and none can diagnose what it is.

 

[HailStout]

THEY control the entire planet and ALL GOVERNMENTS AND ALL DOCTORS. Billions of minds controlled across the globe! Not just the dysfunctional United States. THE ENTIRE WORLD.

Yep. I talked to THEY this morning to make sure I was doing what I’m supposed to .

 

[Colonel Angus.sixpack]

I quit smoking and still cough from any itchy throat. I might take it back up.

 

[ll Martain ll]

start taking a vitamin D supplement. You’re welcome. Signed, Never had Covid.

Ive been on a Vitamin D supplement for 5 years. I lost track of how many times I got COVID. Some of us just have genetic mush for immune systems.

 

[She Mate Me]

This feels like a thread full of a bunch of guys who are mildly to really out of shape and have gotten older together online, leading to not kicking illnesses as quickly as they did when they could drink a 12 pack with no ill effects a day later.

 

[HailStout]

This feels like a thread full of a bunch of guys who are mildly to really out of shape and have gotten older together online, leading to not kicking illnesses as quickly as they did when they could drink a 12 pack with no ill effects a day later.

 

[bulldoghair]

3 questions:

1) who is they?
2) assuming "they" did this, how much control can you extrapolate that they can get over you after you comply by wearing a 4 gram piece of fabric on your face? First mask, then what? Wear helmet? Pay more taxes? Remove penis?
3) were they also involved in historical pandemics where masking was a general expected measure and what did they gain from that psyop?

“They” are the CDC, who were caught tampering with reports under political pressure, the NIH/NIAID deleting federal records, all documented in 2024 House Select Subcommittee memos and FOIA dumps. Not to mention Anthony Fauci’s personal email use for buisness where he expressed private doubts on masks while publicly pushing them. These are not theories. These are congressional findings, FOIA-released emails, sworn testimony, and public records. If you’re pretending “who is they?” is some mystery, you’re either willfully blind or just playing dumb.

Once you get hundreds of millions of people to cover their faces, shame dissenters, and segregate the non compliant- you’ve already then proven you can get them to accept anything dressed up as “science” or “safety.” First mask. Then vaccine mandates with no liability. I don’t know, then maybe digital IDs / passports? Then endless public health pretexts for behavioral compliance is not just about the mask itself. It obviously worked like a charm because you’re still literally still defending

 

[onewoof]

“They” are the CDC, who were caught tampering with reports under political pressure, the NIH/NIAID deleting federal records, all documented in 2024 House Select Subcommittee memos and FOIA dumps. Not to mention Anthony Fauci’s personal email use for buisness where he expressed private doubts on masks while publicly pushing them. These are not theories. These are congressional findings, FOIA-released emails, sworn testimony, and public records. If you’re pretending “who is they?” is some mystery, you’re either willfully blind or just playing dumb.

Once you get hundreds of millions of people to cover their faces, shame dissenters, and segregate the non compliant- you’ve already then proven you can get them to accept anything dressed up as “science” or “safety.” First mask. Then vaccine mandates with no liability. I don’t know, then maybe digital IDs / passports? Then endless public health pretexts for behavioral compliance is not just about the mask itself. It obviously worked like a charm because you’re still literally still defending

In addition to the psyop strangle hold the US based CDC and BIG PHARM ("They") has on other countries wearing masks. Unprecendented global control over the minds of the globe with super psyop powers.

1. Thailand
2. Japan
3. South Korea
4. Taiwan
5. Hong Kong
6. Vietnam
7. Malaysia
8. Cambodia
9. Philippines
10. Mongolia
11. Laos
12. Singapore
13. Brazil
14. UAE
15. Mexico
16. Italy
17. Saudi Arabia
18. China
19. Germany
20. France
21. Spain
22. Columbia
23. Peru
24. Venezula
25. Chad
26. Panama
27. Chile
28. Argentina
29. Ecuador
30. Bolivia
31. India
32. Pakistan
33. Egypt
34. Sudan
35. South Africa
36. Over 50 more African countries
37. Madagascar
38. Finland
39. Sweden
40. Norway
41. Australia
42. Canada
43. Russia

The only free country from this psychological warfare was Greenland. They would not fold to the US based CDC. If the CDC says you gotta mask up the rest of the world says "how much and how often!" because clearly the CDC of the USA controls the entire globe! CAN'T YOU SEE IT DAMMIT!!!!

 

[ckDOG]

“They” are the CDC, who were caught tampering with reports under political pressure, the NIH/NIAID deleting federal records, all documented in 2024 House Select Subcommittee memos and FOIA dumps. Not to mention Anthony Fauci’s personal email use for buisness where he expressed private doubts on masks while publicly pushing them. These are not theories. These are congressional findings, FOIA-released emails, sworn testimony, and public records. If you’re pretending “who is they?” is some mystery, you’re either willfully blind or just playing dumb.

Once you get hundreds of millions of people to cover their faces, shame dissenters, and segregate the non compliant- you’ve already then proven you can get them to accept anything dressed up as “science” or “safety.” First mask. Then vaccine mandates with no liability. I don’t know, then maybe digital IDs / passports? Then endless public health pretexts for behavioral compliance is not just about the mask itself. It obviously worked like a charm because you’re still literally still defending

What's the end game?

 

[preacher_dawg]

I live in New York state, the king of states when it came to masks, shutdowns, etc. There were times that it seemed lower than other states, but other times when it was rampant. You will never be able to convince me that masks stopped the spread of covid.

 

[onewoof]

I live in New York state, the king of states when it came to masks, shutdowns, etc. There were times that it seemed lower than other states, but other times when it was rampant. You will never be able to convince me that masks stopped the spread of covid.

Allowed the nurses and doctors in hospitals to have a less than worser worst case scenario they were fighting every day. Not that any American cares about another, because liberty and freedom and all that. It did keep some from dying. But in highly populated areas, hence the term viral by definition, it's going to be worse there. Probability and the fact that there's only enough hospital resources for 1% of the total population. Many may not realize it, but openly spreading the virus was the biggest IDGAF about the insanity you are living daily to nurses and doctors. Ask one how terrible it was. Traumatic isn't even the right word.

 

[mstateglfr]

You will never be able to convince me that masks stopped the spread of covid.

Because they didnt.
This is like turning to a random group of people and yelling 'You will never convince me the world is flat!!' because almost everyone in that group will agree with you.

Very few would argue that masks stopped the spread of covid. Your claim is something that just isnt being argued by people.
There are people who would argue proper masks worn properly could further slow the spread of airborne germs.
There are people who would argue proper masks worn properly could reduce the odds for a random person being infected.

Very few would argue 'masks stopped the spread of covid'. Its just an extreme viewpoint to have and an extreme argument for you to continue to fixate on.

 

[seshomoru]

Covid just brought to light how many people would rather be complete self-righteous dicks, feigning some persecution complex from a fantastical governmental conspiracy, than do something mildly inconvenient that might possibly help someone more vulnerable than them.

 

[HailStout]

Many may not realize it, but openly spreading the virus was the biggest IDGAF about the insanity you are living daily to nurses and doctors. Ask one how terrible it was. Traumatic isn't even the right word.

I was in counseling for a year for the PTSD I had. It’s impossible to describe how bad it was.

 

[bulldoghair]

In addition to the psyop strangle hold the US based CDC and BIG PHARM ("They") has on other countries wearing masks. Unprecendented global control over the minds of the globe with super psyop powers.

1. Thailand
2. Japan
3. South Korea
4. Taiwan
5. Hong Kong
6. Vietnam
7. Malaysia
8. Cambodia
9. Philippines
10. Mongolia
11. Laos
12. Singapore
13. Brazil
14. UAE
15. Mexico
16. Italy
17. Saudi Arabia
18. China
19. Germany
20. France
21. Spain
22. Columbia
23. Peru
24. Venezula
25. Chad
26. Panama
27. Chile
28. Argentina
29. Ecuador
30. Bolivia
31. India
32. Pakistan
33. Egypt
34. Sudan
35. South Africa
36. Over 50 more African countries
37. Madagascar
38. Finland
39. Sweden
40. Norway
41. Australia
42. Canada
43. Russia

The only free country from this psychological warfare was Greenland. They would not fold to the US based CDC. If the CDC says you gotta mask up the rest of the world says "how much and how often!" because clearly the CDC of the USA controls the entire globe! CAN'T YOU SEE IT DAMMIT!!!!

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You had to invent a cartoon version of my position where I supposedly believe the CDC has literal mind control superpowers over every country on Earth because you couldn’t refute the actual argument I made. I never said the CDC controls the globe like some Bond villain. I said the public masking experiment proved that governments, and not just the US, can get huge populations to comply with arbitrary, low evidence health theater, once fear, social pressure, and institutional messaging is applied. And it worked- in dozens of countries, under different political systems, using the same playbook. You listing all those nations isn’t a dunk. It’s the actual evidence that the tactic was wildly successful worldwide.
So thank you for the list. You just proved my point better than I ever could.

 

[Willow Grove Dawg]

Or I have superhuman genetics and immune systems. There’s a reason the doctors want to take a blood sample at my yearly checkup. They need to study it so they can create more super humans like me. Suck it, normals.

Adolf?