Arm is still a bit tender from the first dose of Moderna about 25 hrs ago. Felt good otherwise. Also felt good to participate in the process to get things going again instead of just hanging out on the sideline complaining.
Saw a meme the other day that went something like this:
"How Wil we know if the vaccine is successful? If the survival rate goes from 99.7% to 99.8%?"
Thoughts?
It was indeed nice to sleep a **** ton. By around noonish or so I felt good enough to get up and have a normal lazy day at home so it was like getting a half day of vacation.Have been sleeping most of the time since I got the second shot. It's been absolutely great.
If they are allergic to one of the ingredients then they shouldn't.Who should not get the vax? Those of you who have really studied this, is there any condition wherein a person should not get it? Or should every person, regardless of condition, health, history, age etc, get it
Yup my 2nd Moderna was Tuesday afternoon and no side affects over 48 hours inGot my 2nd Muh-durnuh shot at 10 AM today. Went to the beach afterwards, and fishing this evening. Nothing so far except a little sore at the injection. Wife had her 2nd on Tuesday and had no side effects.
He's actually very close to correct about the 99.7% survival rate without the vaccine. With it, it's probably closer to 99.99%. Whatever, this "pandemic" is on its last leg, so go find something else to get paranoid about. So done with this crap.I know it's a joke and I'm to the right of Rush Limbaugh, but you do not want to get this extremely easy virus to get. And if you are over 60, you really don't want it.
He's actually very close to correct about the 99.7% survival rate without the vaccine. With it, it's probably closer to 99.99%. Whatever, this "pandemic" is on its last leg, so go find something else to get paranoid about. So done with this crap.
What in the world makes you think that 16 out of 16 people in your family would get it, but for the vaccine?The one thing the survival rate doesn't really mention is that soooo many people are getting sick. Like say this thing has a 0.03 chance of killing you, but everybody in your family is going to get it if you don't have a vaccine. My immediate family (wife, kids, parents, in-laws, brothers and sisters) consist of about 16 people. If everybody gets the disease there is a 5% chance that one of us is toast.
If they are allergic to one of the ingredients then they shouldn't.
There are some certain things that mean you should delay getting it, like if you got another vaccination (say like a tetanus shot), then you're supposed to wait two weeks before getting another shot.
The one thing the survival rate doesn't really mention is that soooo many people are getting sick. Like say this thing has a 0.03 chance of killing you, but everybody in your family is going to get it if you don't have a vaccine. My immediate family (wife, kids, parents, in-laws, brothers and sisters) consist of about 16 people. If everybody gets the disease there is a 5% chance that one of us is toast.
You'd have a .5% chance someone died in that example.
If everyone has the same 99.97% chance of survival, .9997^16 is .9952.
In other words, a 99.5% chance everyone survived, but that's not realistic and way under estimates the actual probability as you aren't accounting for age/health and you are presuming you will get infected, which the odds of that happening go down significantly every day as more and more people get vaccinated.
Presuming the vaccine works, that is, and I see no evidence it isn't as effective as they claim. There's a Johns Hopkins site where you can put in your age, zip conditions etc and it gives you your likelihood of dying of Covid. Take that number, convert to decimal, and multiply them out like I did there and you'd get the actual chance, if you really wanted to nerd out and know.
(Which still isn't accurate as it's taking past data and extrapolating forward where conditions aren't the same)
You once posted that this thing probably had a 5% death rate- now THAT was pretty flawed. I find it astonishing that a supposed right-winger is completely freaking out over this "pandemic", but I guess hypochondriacs and zombie TV show fans exist all over the political spectrum.Hey Al Einstein, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but 0.2% of the US population has already died of this. So your 99.97% analysis is already flawed.
You once posted that this thing probably had a 5% death rate- now THAT was pretty flawed. I find it astonishing that a supposed right-winger is completely freaking out over this "pandemic", but I guess hypochondriacs and zombie TV show fans exist all over the political spectrum.
My risk is higher than yours. Instead of 1 in a million, mine is 1.2 in a million, oh noes! I sure do feel a lot safer after taking the vaccine (which I only did to travel). Although, I would note that the calculator only estimates the risk for the next three weeks, so my chances of dying are actually closer to 10 in a million this year. One in 100,000, oh noes!Heh, ok man, yes... if all 16 of you are over 70 and diabetic, then your number is still less accurate than mine would be.
My personal odds of dying to covid are 1 in a million, per that John Hopkins data site I mentioned, and I'm comfortable with that.
Especially considering the measures I take, my personal odds are probably even closer to zero than that. But yes, everyone who wants to take the vaccine should take it, even if irrational fear is the motivating factor, but others shouldn't be forced to take it just to placate those fears.
My right shoulder has been sore ever since I got the shot a couple of weeks ago, but I doubt it's from the shot. I tried to start working out again around that same time and I probably strained a muscle or something.Son got 2nd M Thursday & told me Friday that arm hurt like hell.
OK, Sat it was still a little sore, nothing Sun when I saw him.Son got 2nd M Thursday & told me Friday that arm hurt like hell.
Survive and advance.Just received first Pfizer shot 46 minutes ago. Ain't dead yet. [winking]
So......we are supposed to believe that they all of a sudden came up with a vaccine when the common cold cannot be cured. NO THANKS!
You can let them pump that crap into your body if you want but I'll pass. I have a vaccine called an immune system......I'll take my chances with taht.
So......we are supposed to believe that they all of a sudden came up with a vaccine when the common cold cannot be cured. NO THANKS!
You can let them pump that crap into your body if you want but I'll pass. I have a vaccine called an immune system......I'll take my chances with taht.
My mom got her second dose of Moderna yesterday. A little sore and was tired but that's it. Guy I work for is around 70 and in good shape. Didn't want the vaccine (his decision, it's whatever) and now has COVID. He's doing okay but it's a little frustrating knowing that he could've just gotten the shots a couple months ago.