Crissy Froyd is mad that State isn’t running the Air Raid anymore.

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Hadnt heard of her or of Cowbell Corner.
Pretty sure I will forget about both by the time I wake up tomorrow.

I see she mastered at least one of the 9 necessary IG college poses.
 
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The Air Raid requires a good receiver core to be functional. By 'good' I mean good compared to the players that are opposing them on the other team.

Our receivers were good enough to prevail against non-SEC opponents but struggled too much against solid SEC defenses and it limited what the offense could do. That IS the limitation of the Air Raid.

In 2021, when we had one or two really solid receivers that could actually get open against SEC defenses we were a pretty solid offense. Last year we struggled because none of our guys were good enough to make a difference against stronger opponents.
It also requires your qb to be almost perfect every game. Too much on one player. Then your receivers sll have to on too. If they have the drops it's over. If qb is off it's over. If line can't pass block it's over. D line pinned their ears back
 
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Uh, no offense we have ever run or ever will run will work effectively against elite SEC defenses. It’s about talent, and we are historically lacking in offensive skill position talent.
Yep, the high dollar teams will always recover against any scheme offense. Passes that were completed against other teams were intercepted against Bummer and UGA.
 

The Peeper

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I mean it should be pretty tough to screw up a bunch of 24 year old offensive linemen, a 4th year starting QB, Tulu, Robinson, Woody, etc.
Oh boy, you've done it now saying that. The dead injuns under Davis Wade all in unison just said "hold my beer"........
 

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1. I'm happy to have Barbay and the new offense.
2. We scored more points per game last year than all but like 3 or 4 teams in the history of MSU football. I looked it up months ago but can't remember exactly. So maybe the issue is just us and the type of player we tend to get and not the air raid.
3. I'm thankful to Leach for not only the air raid, but for making the right hires to allow for the defense to be successful and for running a tight ship so that we hardly ever heard about discipline issues. The guy just knew how to run a program. Hopefully Arnett soaked in that knowledge, because we've seen what happens with a coach that doesn't know how to run a program (Moorhead.)
 

The Cooterpoot

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I hate to bust her bubble more but I had a long talk with a former player last night. He said we're the softest team he's ever seen (been to spring practices). Said they've been allowed to get away with a lot of stuff Dan Mullen would've ripped them a new one for. Said a coach said we're soft too and they're wanting that changed. Specifically pointed out the offensive side and OL. Said they get dominated in practice (we saw it in spring game too). I won't tell everything that was said, but he said a good portion of this team couldn't play for a coach like Mullen. (Also said Mullen was an ******* but respected how he did things).
 

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I hate to bust her bubble more but I had a long talk with a former player last night. He said we're the softest team he's ever seen (been to spring practices). Said they've been allowed to get away with a lot of stuff Dan Mullen would've ripped them a new one for. Said a coach said we're soft too and they're wanting that changed. Specifically pointed out the offensive side and OL. Said they get dominated in practice (we saw it in spring game too). I won't tell everything that was said, but he said a good portion of this team couldn't play for a coach like Mullen. (Also said Mullen was an ******* but respected how he did things).
This does not come as much of a surprise.
 

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I hate to bust her bubble more but I had a long talk with a former player last night. He said we're the softest team he's ever seen (been to spring practices). Said they've been allowed to get away with a lot of stuff Dan Mullen would've ripped them a new one for. Said a coach said we're soft too and they're wanting that changed. Specifically pointed out the offensive side and OL. Said they get dominated in practice (we saw it in spring game too). I won't tell everything that was said, but he said a good portion of this team couldn't play for a coach like Mullen. (Also said Mullen was an ******* but respected how he did things).
Who is this directed at, Barbay/Arnett or Leach?
 
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I hate to bust her bubble more but I had a long talk with a former player last night. He said we're the softest team he's ever seen (been to spring practices). Said they've been allowed to get away with a lot of stuff Dan Mullen would've ripped them a new one for. Said a coach said we're soft too and they're wanting that changed. Specifically pointed out the offensive side and OL. Said they get dominated in practice (we saw it in spring game too). I won't tell everything that was said, but he said a good portion of this team couldn't play for a coach like Mullen. (Also said Mullen was an ******* but respected how he did things).
I’m confused. Are you talking about presently or under Leach?
 

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I hate to bust her bubble more but I had a long talk with a former player last night. He said we're the softest team he's ever seen (been to spring practices). Said they've been allowed to get away with a lot of stuff Dan Mullen would've ripped them a new one for. Said a coach said we're soft too and they're wanting that changed. Specifically pointed out the offensive side and OL. Said they get dominated in practice (we saw it in spring game too). I won't tell everything that was said, but he said a good portion of this team couldn't play for a coach like Mullen. (Also said Mullen was an ******* but respected how he did things).
Man I agree with some of your stuff and have realized over time that we 'hear' the same things from time to time, but this is just idiotic. Moorhead was soft. Leach was not. And at minimum, even if Arnett and Co actually WERE soft (which nobody believes they are), the Leach culture will at least spill over for a year, just like Mullen's did with Moorhead's first year.

The OL is 24 years old, like I said before. Soft is one thing they aren't going to be.
 

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I hate to bust her bubble more but I had a long talk with a former player last night. He said we're the softest team he's ever seen (been to spring practices). Said they've been allowed to get away with a lot of stuff Dan Mullen would've ripped them a new one for. Said a coach said we're soft too and they're wanting that changed. Specifically pointed out the offensive side and OL. Said they get dominated in practice (we saw it in spring game too). I won't tell everything that was said, but he said a good portion of this team couldn't play for a coach like Mullen. (Also said Mullen was an ******* but respected how he did things).
Any chance that this is just Millennials looking down on the Gen-Zers and saying "wuhl, back in mah day, we wouldnta got away with all this" the same way Gen-Xers did Millennials and the way Boomers did Gen-Xers and the way the Greatest Generation did to Boomers and the same way that Gen-Zers will inevitably do to Gen Alpha?
 

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From everything I've read it doesn't seem we are scrapping things 100% like some insinuate.
 

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Any chance that this is just Millennials looking down on the Gen-Zers and saying "wuhl, back in mah day, we wouldnta got away with all this" the same way Gen-Xers did Millennials and the way Boomers did Gen-Xers and the way the Greatest Generation did to Boomers and the same way that Gen-Zers will inevitably do to Gen Alpha?
Of course it is.
 
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The Cooterpoot

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Any chance that this is just Millennials looking down on the Gen-Zers and saying "wuhl, back in mah day, we wouldnta got away with all this" the same way Gen-Xers did Millennials and the way Boomers did Gen-Xers and the way the Greatest Generation did to Boomers and the same way that Gen-Zers will inevitably do to Gen Alpha?
Considering he finished less than 5 seasons ago, no.
 

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I thought this thread was going to be about christian ford and why he transferred
 

The Peeper

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Of course it is.
Any chance that this is just Millennials looking down on the Gen-Zers and saying "wuhl, back in mah day, we wouldnta got away with all this" the same way Gen-Xers did Millennials and the way Boomers did Gen-Xers and the way the Greatest Generation did to Boomers and the same way that Gen-Zers will inevitably do to Gen Alpha?
the sandlot wtf GIF
 
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