Croom can't even wear a skullcap straight with headphones.*
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"I can't believe we hired that mother 17er." My wife said, "What?"
I didn't even realize I'd said it. The disgust just spews whenever I see him.
I didn't even realize I'd said it. The disgust just spews whenever I see him.
Think of the poor bastard that guided the Alabama coaching search to a choice between Crooms and Mike Shula. Bet he got a swift kick in the balls as they booted his *** off campus.
I love how his wiki says:
"When Croom was hired at <font color="#0645ad">Mississippi State</font>, he inherited a program that was ridden with NCAA sanctions and had not won consistently since the 1990s"
Oh, so, the program had not won consistently in the previous 3 years so that absolutely gives pass to sucking it up for 4 out of 5 more</p>
"When Croom was hired at <font color="#0645ad">Mississippi State</font>, he inherited a program that was ridden with NCAA sanctions and had not won consistently since the 1990s"
Oh, so, the program had not won consistently in the previous 3 years so that absolutely gives pass to sucking it up for 4 out of 5 more</p>
and, at least he won as many as he lost... andJWS took usto ATL.
Not trying to argue but those two people are NOTHING alike in my book
Not trying to argue but those two people are NOTHING alike in my book
...1997-2000 was the best 4 year stretch of MSU Football in history (7-4, 8-5, 10-2, 8-4; 3 bowls; SECCG). JWS engineered that. Croom's greatest accomplishment was beating UCF in the Liberty Bowl.<div>
</div><div>By the way, we only went .500 against Ole Miss in that stretch. Guess we aren't defined by the Egg Bowl after all.</div>
</div><div>By the way, we only went .500 against Ole Miss in that stretch. Guess we aren't defined by the Egg Bowl after all.</div>
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strength. He was fired right when he got the team competitive. Not saying it wasn't the right move, but building those lines was a slow and painful process, as anyone who was at a game the previous year can attest. it doesn't really matter who inherited the better (or worse) situation. Be Here Now. Go Dawgs
as a coach and a public figure and face for MSU football. At least Mullen goes around Starkville doing worthy causes and making appearences in the community. Croom just mumbled and jumbled words while giving a press conference and would try to run over people with his golf cart on campus. I'm glad the idiot is gone!
I believe it was his daughter that talked him into taking the job after he had already turned down LT's first offer. Don't believe he could ever fully embrace us because of all the Crimson in his system. I feel like now we are finally coming out of wandering in the wilderness from those final 3 Sherrill years and Croom years.
then the Croom years were an all expense paid trip to Mordor. There isn't much on this earth that gets my blood boiling like talk of that asshat, and I think you're right. He never had any real desire to be here but I guess when you're getting paid $1.7M to suck, you learn to deal with it.
One of these days I'll let it go, but my utter hatred for the man doesn't come from losing ballgames. It's the laughable notion that he was some sort of great man and an icon for our university. He never did a damn thing for our school or the city of Starkville unless he was getting paid to do it.
One of these days I'll let it go, but my utter hatred for the man doesn't come from losing ballgames. It's the laughable notion that he was some sort of great man and an icon for our university. He never did a damn thing for our school or the city of Starkville unless he was getting paid to do it.
for why he wouldn't be successful and we bought it. Sure, we had problems on our team but I think a real coach doesn't just make it a 'my way or the highway' type situation. Plus, the double standard that he later showed when it was his players that got in trouble was awfully telling...
He made excuse after excuse for why he should be given a long time to rebuild. It was never his fault or never up to him to turn it around.
That was one of the biggest things I have always liked about Mullen. He walked in the door saying there would be zero excuses
He made excuse after excuse for why he should be given a long time to rebuild. It was never his fault or never up to him to turn it around.
That was one of the biggest things I have always liked about Mullen. He walked in the door saying there would be zero excuses
We all knew there were a lot of character and off-field problems on that team long before Crxxm ever got to Starkville. How many of those players went to jail? How many wound up killed in gang/drug related killings? You had one that told the S&C coach to go f*** himself when he told him to do his work. Our football program was just as out of control at the time as the Bears football program is now. Maybe even more. Crxxm was a terrible coach. No question about that. But there's also no question he inherited a train wreck.
Crxxm would have never succeeded anyway because he sucks. But if someone doesn't want your job, you're usually not going to do yourself any favors by talking them into it. You see it all the time when coaches retire then get talked out of it. They may stay physically, but their heart just isn't in it like it was before and their performance suffers.[b said:
And one was the fact that he had to be talked into coming here. The second was when he said he would never fire an assistant coach. That worried me because sometimes changes have to be made.
He probably told the people at Alabama the same thing about never firing an assistant, and it sent up a red flag.
He was simply in over his head. In all honesty, he should have started out at a smaller school and learned the ropes and then moved up. The SEC is getting too big of a monster to have an idiot for a coach and survive.
He probably told the people at Alabama the same thing about never firing an assistant, and it sent up a red flag.
He was simply in over his head. In all honesty, he should have started out at a smaller school and learned the ropes and then moved up. The SEC is getting too big of a monster to have an idiot for a coach and survive.
I was skeptical of that asshat as far back as the first time he came on there and was introduced as the HC...never trusted him and knew from the gitgo that not only did he not want the job, he spent the entire five 17 years trying to hide his ineptness....yet he was allowed to keep the job...unbelievable that LT allowed that **** for that length of time..and nobody did anything about it
which is what Croom did. Sure. you had guys get arrested. Sure, you had guys fall apart once they lost football....
And, to answer your poor taste question, there was one who died. And, I never saw one article where Dapoo Williams was in gang/drug related activities when he died. If you have info on that, please post. Otherwise, shut the hell up about the man. He is dead. Not a point for how poor ol' Sylvester had it. Maybe if Croom had backed up his holier than thou background, he could have helped those kids.
And, to answer your poor taste question, there was one who died. And, I never saw one article where Dapoo Williams was in gang/drug related activities when he died. If you have info on that, please post. Otherwise, shut the hell up about the man. He is dead. Not a point for how poor ol' Sylvester had it. Maybe if Croom had backed up his holier than thou background, he could have helped those kids.
and that news. My point still stands. I never have respected the people who 'claim' to be such a builder of young men and his response was just to blame the previous coach and kick them off the team. He was all too willing to bite the bullet and 'help' his players that got in trouble. No matter. We can agree to disagree but thank god we can all agree that we are in a better place today
This is like the Ole Miss fans that make fun of Mullen's neck, or lack their of. Now we are making fun of how Croom wears a hat. G
Another blog wrote this year on the Georgia Bulldog site, "I go back and forth over whether to regard Dan Mullen as a much less inspiring Sylvester Croom or a much more intelligible Ed Orgeron."
Just so that you understand - the rest of the country doesn't quite view Sylvester Croom the same as the posters in this thread.
For all of those that don't understand what Croom inherited, you should have watched the 2003 MSU team. It may have been the worst in SEC history. I believe it was worse that Ole Miss this year. Sherrill left MSU with 2 commitments, both two stars, in Dec. 2003. Croom left with 24 commitments, the best recruiting class in 20 years at MSU, in Dec. 2008. Croom left a team that had gone 8-5 in 2007, and was very competitive in 2008 (lost to Auburn and LSU that year by less than Mullen did this year). For example, the team Croom inherited in 2003 lost to Arkansas 52-6 and Kentucky 42-17, LSU 41-6, and Auburn 45-13. The team Mullen inherited beat Arkansas in 2008, lost to Kentucky and Auburn by 1, and had a chance to tie LSU in the fourth quarter.
Not even close to the same situation. We were like a D-AA team in 2003. We were a competitive SEC team in 2008.
Another blog wrote this year on the Georgia Bulldog site, "I go back and forth over whether to regard Dan Mullen as a much less inspiring Sylvester Croom or a much more intelligible Ed Orgeron."
Just so that you understand - the rest of the country doesn't quite view Sylvester Croom the same as the posters in this thread.
For all of those that don't understand what Croom inherited, you should have watched the 2003 MSU team. It may have been the worst in SEC history. I believe it was worse that Ole Miss this year. Sherrill left MSU with 2 commitments, both two stars, in Dec. 2003. Croom left with 24 commitments, the best recruiting class in 20 years at MSU, in Dec. 2008. Croom left a team that had gone 8-5 in 2007, and was very competitive in 2008 (lost to Auburn and LSU that year by less than Mullen did this year). For example, the team Croom inherited in 2003 lost to Arkansas 52-6 and Kentucky 42-17, LSU 41-6, and Auburn 45-13. The team Mullen inherited beat Arkansas in 2008, lost to Kentucky and Auburn by 1, and had a chance to tie LSU in the fourth quarter.
Not even close to the same situation. We were like a D-AA team in 2003. We were a competitive SEC team in 2008.
...of a team being competitive. <div>
</div><div>Also, please don't forget that 2008 team lost to UM 45-0.</div>
</div><div>Also, please don't forget that 2008 team lost to UM 45-0.</div>