current events thread

[rillaman]

This is all pretty hilarious. The people who believe the COVID vaccines saved millions of lives, and injured/killed no one, give Trump zero credit.

The people who believe the COVID vaccines killed millions, and saved very few, have zero criticism of Trump and OWS.

 

[BigWill]

Gator Bait Cages !

 

[ILisBest]

This is all pretty hilarious. The people who believe the COVID vaccines saved millions of lives, and injured/killed no one, give Trump zero credit.

The people who believe the COVID vaccines killed millions, and saved very few, have zero criticism of Trump and OWS.

I believe there are many somewhere in between. Although most honest assessments have to question why people were forced to take a shot to "stop the spread" that did absolutely nothing to stop the spread.

 

[rillaman]

I believe there are many somewhere in between. Although most honest assessments have to question why people were forced to take a shot to "stop the spread" that did absolutely nothing to stop the spread.

Yes, there are many. I put you in the "in between" bucket, next to me. You seem curious about the net +/-, and I'm curious about that as well.

I just find it hilarious that people who believe it killed millions give Trump zero blame, and those that think it saved millions give Trump zero credit. Bizarro world.

 

[BigWill]

NY Federal District Judge REFUSES request of DOJ AG to open Maxwell Grand Jury testimony !

Too busy trading today, making a killing with SOUN (up 65 % from Friday) and AMD ( up 200 % TODAY ) call options !

 

[tjfleck6]

Squicky should note that an Obama judge won’t release the data! But why?

 

[BigWill]

Yes, there are many. I put you in the "in between" bucket, next to me. You seem curious about the net +/-, and I'm curious about that as well.

I just find it hilarious that people who believe it killed millions give Trump zero blame, and those that think it saved millions give Trump zero credit. Bizarro world.

Even MORE bizarre are those that didn't vote !

 

[ILisBest]

Yes, there are many. I put you in the "in between" bucket, next to me. You seem curious about the net +/-, and I'm curious about that as well.

I just find it hilarious that people who believe it killed millions give Trump zero blame, and those that think it saved millions give Trump zero credit. Bizarro world.

I think most, if not all(in this thread) would say Trump didn't handle it well. I would probably be more critical of him if he had appointed Faucci and Birx. He followed their lead. Then Birx blamed Trump that he didn't lock down and force feed more to the public and that Trump killed people for lack of action.

There are plenty of bad takes on this, but I believe a fair take is let's see how it plays out for the billions that didn't need the Vax that were told that they did or forced to take it.

 

[AzIllini]

Make DC Great Again! MDCGA

George Soros‘ head is exploding

 

[djpc]

I think most, if not all(in this thread) would say Trump didn't handle it well. I would probably be more critical of him if he had appointed Faucci and Birx. He followed their lead. Then Birx blamed Trump that he didn't lock down and force feed more to the public and that Trump killed people for lack of action.

There are plenty of bad takes on this, but I believe a fair take is let's see how it plays out for the billions that didn't need the Vax that were told that they did or forced to take it.

I think the real issue over time will be how many people are producing those spike proteins in various parts of their body as time goes on. That was supposed to be a brief process, just long enough to inform the immune system, but it seems like in some people the protein production continues for months or longer. Is that because of "long covid" (i.e., the virus is not eradicated in those people) or is it an unintended consequence of the mRNA shots themselves displaying a persistence we were told it didn't have. That should be pretty easy to sort out in the coming months assuming someone takes an honest look at it.

As far as Trump's role, the whole situation erupted in the last year of his presidency and it's hard to say who knew what when, and what he was told by the bureaucrats. I don't think it's a stretch to speculate the pandemic was highly politicized having occurred in a Presidential election year, too good of an opportunity to pass up. Should Trump have been able to understand he was either being lied or misspoken to or counseled by idiot "experts" concerning efficacy/safety of the mRNA products and other potential antiviral therapies? Maybe he should have. In hindsight I would have rather seen him tap the brakes on the EUA but it was probably the most bizarre few months I've ever lived through so I'm not going to pass judgement. Same is true for the early part of the Biden admin. I think both presidents were fed only a carefully curated subset of the truth. I oppose any sort of medical mandates though, especially those that give no considerations to a patient's particulars and involve interventions with woefully inadequate safety trials, no more than hand-waving really. My recollection is those came along later in 2021/22, but maybe in the healthcare/medical arenas they came sooner.

 

[Semi-elite R2R athlete]

So the Twitter engagement bait just isn’t enough. Gotta hit us with some Instagram brain rot too!

Would love to see your screen time numbers. Oof.

 

[stoneaxe27]

Squicky should note that an Obama judge won’t release the data! But why?

Because her case is still on appeal and you don't release the records while that is pending. A move by a Judge being judicial, being a Dem has nothing to do with it. No CONSPIRACY, just normal legal practice. X22 is usually an idiot.

 

[rillaman]

How a 'horrible perfect storm' fueled a 65% increase in homicides committed by kids

Homicides committed by juveniles increased 65% and youth crimes with firearms jumped 20% from 2016 to 2022, a new report shows. Here's what we know.

www.usatoday.com

For those thinking the Trump admin is overreacting in DC. Youth crime has risen sharply in some big cities.

 

[stoneaxe27]

How a 'horrible perfect storm' fueled a 65% increase in homicides committed by kids

Homicides committed by juveniles increased 65% and youth crimes with firearms jumped 20% from 2016 to 2022, a new report shows. Here's what we know.

www.usatoday.com

For those thinking the Trump admin is overreacting in DC. Youth crime has risen sharply in some big cities.

Crime is down in DC by 35% this year and is at a 30-year low. This CRIME WAVE act works with his base just as it did in the general election when crime was actually down and moving down.

 

[ILisBest]

Crime is down in DC by 35% this year and is at a 30-year low. This CRIME WAVE act works with his base just as it did in the general election when crime was actually down and moving down.

Misinformation is your bag. Kudos Stoned!

 

[BigWill]

Crime is down in DC by 35% this year and is at a 30-year low. This CRIME WAVE act works with his base just as it did in the general election when crime was actually down and moving down.

You may want to spend a few minutes of research on the Head of the DC Police who was just exposed for under reporting CRIME STATS IN DC !

 

[Uncoach]

Gator Bait Cages !

What if we had an Atlantis Alcatraz in the Gulf of America. See the libbies cage themselves then. Shark bait!

 

[Uncoach]

Oh where have semi-rill gone?

 

[Uncoach]

 

[Semi-elite R2R athlete]

Oh where have semi-rill gone?

 

[Uncoach]

Great if it can happen. It would save far left states like Illinois from themselves. We are starting to see the “fruits” of the anti-“Safe-T Act”.

 

[Semi-elite R2R athlete]

Epstein clients walking free is not our top issue so let’s just let the govt cover it all up. Nobody is searching about it on Google anymore anyway..

 

[BigWill]

Zero, Zero, One care about Ep.

NOT the % of people polled, but the ACTUAL NUMBER who care.

 

[dtrain79]

I am taking the stance that we do not know what we will find out long term from the young people that needlessly took these shots. Yes, the covid deaths were obviously horrible, but unless you can see into the future, it is anybody's guess as to the final results of this irresponsible requirement, not to mention the shaming.

The two people I knew that died from covid were pretty sick already and I am guessing neither would have made it 3 or 4 years without covid. It was still a horrible tragedy they didn't get their full time with their families.

Now, if over the next three decades we lose double the people prematurely from a shot we didn't have long term studies about the effects, than technically that would be worse, no? I am guessing that won't happen, but nobody can say for sure.

I think you can rest assured we won’t be losing a material number of people due to getting a shot 4 years ago now.

Covid still kills people, it’s just much more limited because most of us have some immunity now. So likely concentrated among the very vulnerable.

 

[dtrain79]

Oh where have semi-rill gone?

After the latest round of Epstein idiocy, what I actually learned made the original story seem even less of a big ticket thing than it did 5 years ago when he offed himself.

At that time it appeared he had been engaged in a sex trafficking ring for people beyond himself. The more information you learn, the trafficking was largely for Jeff himself. There’s a few allegations about another few people who many have received sexual benefits (almost entirely from the Giuffre lady who killed herself and apparently wasn’t very credible in many of her allegations), but it’s really not much.

Ironically, the impetus for this story may be an effort to attack Trump’s Cabinet Secretary from his first term - Alex Acosta. He gave Epstein the sweetheart deal, probably for fear that the prosecution would be very hard and time consuming considering Jeff’s defense team.

Just another conspiracy theory up in flames. Now back to vaccine conspiracies!

 

[stoneaxe27]

Ironically, the impetus for this story may be an effort to attack Trump’s Cabinet Secretary from his first term - Alex Acosta. He gave Epstein the sweetheart deal, probably for fear that the prosecution would be very hard and time consuming considering Jeff’s defense team.

Partially fear of hard work by Acosta, but primarily because Epstein hired the most politically well-connected representation, both in the Florida and national party, he could find. So, the Feds agreed to drop the case, Florida gave him a slap on the wrist, and he was like Otis in the Andy Griffin show, let himself in and out of the cell in a county lock-up and came and went as he pleased. Plus got non-prosecution agreements that covered all of the unnamed and undisclosed participants with him.
One way to find out whom associated abusers were would be to ask the victims. I heard that there were at least 200 of them, and perhaps as many as a thousand.

 

[bung23]

Epstein clients walking free is not our top issue so let’s just let the govt cover it all up. Nobody is searching about it on Google anymore anyway..

Half of the Washington elite want this to go away.

 

[rillaman]

Crime is down in DC by 35% this year and is at a 30-year low. This CRIME WAVE act works with his base just as it did in the general election when crime was actually down and moving down.

DC police unit to focus on stopping juvenile crimes before they happen

Washington, D.C., is dedicating a new police unit to juvenile crime as the city experiences an increase in young people committing some crimes. D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser and Metropolitan Police Department Chief Pamela Smith said the Juvenile Investigative Response Unit, or JIRU, will focus on...

www.nbcwashington.com

Weird, DC NBC was reporting on rising youth crime just a few months ago. Seems like it is a major problem, specifically with theft and carjackings.

 

[dtrain79]

Partially fear of hard work by Acosta, but primarily because Epstein hired the most politically well-connected representation, both in the Florida and national party, he could find. So, the Feds agreed to drop the case, Florida gave him a slap on the wrist, and he was like Otis in the Andy Griffin show, let himself in and out of the cell in a county lock-up and came and went as he pleased. Plus got non-prosecution agreements that covered all of the unnamed and undisclosed participants with him.
One way to find out whom associated abusers were would be to ask the victims. I heard that there were at least 200 of them, and perhaps as many as a thousand.

Considering I'm reiterating what the Miami Herald reporter who is the one who put this story back on the map, there are not "200 or perhaps as many as a thousand" people to whom girls were trafficked. She thinks there were others beyond Epstein, but she basically pours ice cold water on the massive sex trafficking ring idea. And btw, her opinion on it being anyone past Jeff goes beyond the facts ... she openly acknowledges she's speculating.

Epstein clearly abused a lot of girls who were under 18 (but as far as we know, not pre-pubescent). The scheme with Maxwell was about bringing girls to Epstein. There have been multiple legal cases and trials about this.

Btw, the reason grand jury testimony isn't being released is because it's generally not releasable to protect people who weren't under investigation. Not some laughable conspiracy about an Obama judge trying to protect Dems, so stupidly laughable. That judge likely knows almost nothing about what is in the GJ records btw.

It feels like Dikembe Mutumbo swatting away dumb conspiracy takes around here. Which is why I will soon be gone again for a month or so.

 

[dtrain79]

Btw, literally one of the foremost crime data experts on the country regarding DC.

Assessing DC's Violent Crime Trends - by Jeff Asher

Summary - Murder and carjackings definitely down, not at historic lows but tracking positively. Carjackings definitely a crime of the youth. Violent crime also down, but there are reporting issues making this hard to track (probably not intentional ones but they are intervening with the data).

I think it's silly Trump is putting the Guard on the streets, it's him "showing force." Federalizing the anti-crime efforts in DC is much more within his actual purview, and not problematic. Crime in DC can definitely be further tamped down.

 

[stoneaxe27]

Considering I'm reiterating what the Miami Herald reporter who is the one who put this story back on the map, there are not "200 or perhaps as many as a thousand" people to whom girls were trafficked. She thinks there were others beyond Epstein, but she basically pours ice cold water on the massive sex trafficking ring idea. And btw, her opinion on it being anyone past Jeff goes beyond the facts ... she openly acknowledges she's speculating.

Epstein clearly abused a lot of girls who were under 18 (but as far as we know, not pre-pubescent). The scheme with Maxwell was about bringing girls to Epstein. There have been multiple legal cases and trials about this.

Btw, the reason grand jury testimony isn't being released is because it's generally not releasable to protect people who weren't under investigation. Not some laughable conspiracy about an Obama judge trying to protect Dems, so stupidly laughable. That judge likely knows almost nothing about what is in the GJ records btw.

It feels like Dikembe Mutumbo swatting away dumb conspiracy takes around here. Which is why I will soon be gone again for a month or so.

I wrote that I heard there were 200 perhaps up to a thousand VICTIMS, not abusers. Ask the known victims if there were others beside Epstein involved.

 

[ILisBest]

Considering I'm reiterating what the Miami Herald reporter who is the one who put this story back on the map, there are not "200 or perhaps as many as a thousand" people to whom girls were trafficked. She thinks there were others beyond Epstein, but she basically pours ice cold water on the massive sex trafficking ring idea. And btw, her opinion on it being anyone past Jeff goes beyond the facts ... she openly acknowledges she's speculating.

Epstein clearly abused a lot of girls who were under 18 (but as far as we know, not pre-pubescent). The scheme with Maxwell was about bringing girls to Epstein. There have been multiple legal cases and trials about this.

Btw, the reason grand jury testimony isn't being released is because it's generally not releasable to protect people who weren't under investigation. Not some laughable conspiracy about an Obama judge trying to protect Dems, so stupidly laughable. That judge likely knows almost nothing about what is in the GJ records btw.

It feels like Dikembe Mutumbo swatting away dumb conspiracy takes around here. Which is why I will soon be gone again for a month or so.

Happy birthday, Doug!

 

[BigWill]

The Maxwell Grand Jury minutes are being withheld for the simple fact that there is nothing salacious about her testimony, as determined by the Judge.
This is the SECOND refusal by a Judge with the Maxwell testimony.

The Epstein Grand Jury was withheld by a separate NY Federal Judge, to keep the victims secret.
To date the second determination for Epstein is in limbo.

Crime Stats should go down in 2025, why ? We are approaching 2,000,000 million illegals deported.

 

[dtrain79]

I wrote that I heard there were 200 perhaps up to a thousand VICTIMS, not abusers. Ask the known victims if there were others beside Epstein involved.

Actually you didn't, go read what you posted and get back to me. I thought it might be what you meant, but it's not what you said.

 

[dtrain79]

Happy birthday, Doug!

Thanks Dave!

 

[stoneaxe27]

Actually you didn't, go read what you posted and get back to me. I thought it might be what you meant, but it's not what you said.

I guess I should have used a comma and not a period to make it clear.

 

[dtrain79]

The Maxwell Grand Jury minutes are being withheld for the simple fact that there is nothing salacious about her testimony, as determined by the Judge.
This is the SECOND refusal by a Judge with the Maxwell testimony.

The Epstein Grand Jury was withheld by a separate NY Federal Judge, to keep the victims secret.
To date the second determination for Epstein is in limbo.

Crime Stats should go down in 2025, why ? We are approaching 2,000,000 million illegals deported.

Crime stats in 2024 were massively down, with Biden in charge of deporting illegals. In the case of violent crime and property crime, lows hitting where things stood per capita in the 1960s.

Why is that? Because the large majority of crimes in the USA are committed by native born citizens, something I'd think a serious law enforcement officer would want to know. I'm sure that more crimes in NYC are committed by non-citizens than elsewhere, because there's a huge non-citizen population in NYC (including an illegal population).

We can continue to post the facts about this, and you can continue to bleat about the FBI only getting reports from 96% of LE agencies (i.e., basically all of them).

Sometimes you can actually take the L on something, especially when you've been proven wholly wrong.

 

[rillaman]

Btw, literally one of the foremost crime data experts on the country regarding DC.

Assessing DC's Violent Crime Trends - by Jeff Asher

Summary - Murder and carjackings definitely down, not at historic lows but tracking positively. Carjackings definitely a crime of the youth. Violent crime also down, but there are reporting issues making this hard to track (probably not intentional ones but they are intervening with the data).

I think it's silly Trump is putting the Guard on the streets, it's him "showing force." Federalizing the anti-crime efforts in DC is much more within his actual purview, and not problematic. Crime in DC can definitely be further tamped down.

Crime in Washington, DC: What You Need to Know - Council on Criminal Justice

Following President Trump's announcement about federal efforts to combat crime in Washington, DC, this brief examines trends for eight different crime types in the nation's capital going back to 2018.

counciloncj.org

The homicide rate Jan-June is back to 2018 rates. That’s great news.

The carjacking rate is still ~2.5 times higher than it was in 2018.

Motor Vehicle Theft is still almost double where it was in 2018.

Other reported crime rates are down significantly, so that’s good news.

 

[Uncoach]

nvm

 

[Uncoach]

After the latest round of Epstein idiocy, what I actually learned made the original story seem even less of a big ticket thing than it did 5 years ago when he offed himself.

At that time it appeared he had been engaged in a sex trafficking ring for people beyond himself. The more information you learn, the trafficking was largely for Jeff himself. There’s a few allegations about another few people who many have received sexual benefits (almost entirely from the Giuffre lady who killed herself and apparently wasn’t very credible in many of her allegations), but it’s really not much.

Ironically, the impetus for this story may be an effort to attack Trump’s Cabinet Secretary from his first term - Alex Acosta. He gave Epstein the sweetheart deal, probably for fear that the prosecution would be very hard and time consuming considering Jeff’s defense team.

Just another conspiracy theory up in flames. Now back to vaccine conspiracies!

I have to admit I posted this to troll semi and rilla. Your information here is quite interesting though and could be possible. I see it’s your birthday. I hope it’s a good one!