There are no conclusive studies because of the ethical issues associated with doing studies involving pregnant women / unborn children.
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There are no conclusive studies because of the ethical issues associated with doing studies involving pregnant women / unborn children.
I am well aware having worked in health care for a large portion of my career. The tragedy will be if some women refuse to take Tylenol when they should and then have babies with birth defects that could have been prevented. Conventional medical wisdom is that Tylenol should only be used when necessary.
FAS in very new in thoughts of causation for childhood health issues !
I can recall Mary Anne being late pregnancy 7+ months, sitting at the bar with a glass of wine, waiting for the bar to close and my bouncing shift to end. BUT NEVER more than 1 glass ! Her first child, 50 + years ago.
A friend married a woman that had 4 kids with him, in 6 years ! She was a big drinker and the last 2 kids are slow. # 3 of 4 would be set in an automatic swing machine for hours and do nothing, I mean nothing ! Mary Anne tried to get the Mother to get assistance, to no avail. 25 years have passed, he is still developmentally challenged !
Another Couple had 6 in 9 years, Mother has never drank alcohol or used excessive pills. All 6 are normal !
The first couple's other 3 kids are all Lawyers, does that prove my point or not ?
I can recall Mary Anne being late pregnancy 7+ months, sitting at the bar with a glass of wine, waiting for the bar to close and my bouncing shift to end. BUT NEVER more than 1 glass ! Her first child, 50 + years ago.
A friend married a woman that had 4 kids with him, in 6 years ! She was a big drinker and the last 2 kids are slow. # 3 of 4 would be set in an automatic swing machine for hours and do nothing, I mean nothing ! Mary Anne tried to get the Mother to get assistance, to no avail. 25 years have passed, he is still developmentally challenged !
Another Couple had 6 in 9 years, Mother has never drank alcohol or used excessive pills. All 6 are normal !
The first couple's other 3 kids are all Lawyers, does that prove my point or not ?
They do not. All drugs have warnings listed on them. Find one that doesn't. Tylenol is safe if used as indicated and not counterindicated by the physician.The makers of Tylenol even say not to buy/take their drug if you are pregnant.
The researchers noted that while steps should be taken to limit acetaminophen use, the drug is important for treating pain and fever during pregnancy, which can also harm the developing fetus. High fever can raise the risk of neural tube defects and preterm birth. “We recommend judicious acetaminophen use—lowest effective dose, shortest duration—under medical guidance, tailored to individual risk-benefit assessments, rather than a broad limitation,” they wrote.
Using acetaminophen during pregnancy may increase children’s autism and ADHD risk | Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health
When children are exposed to acetaminophen—also known by the brand name Tylenol or as paracetamol—during pregnancy, they may be more likely to develop neurodevelopmental disorders including autism and ADHD, according to a new study.hsph.harvard.edu
Me-Same limitation on the use of any drug during pregnancy.
This is a valid concern. I think they could have addressed this better and said that Tylenol should only be taken in serious situations where the doctor thinks the risk of not taking it is severe.
But it could also prevent other kids from being born with developmental issues. This is another risk/reward situation that we don't fully understand because it is impossible to test these things.
I think it's good this is being talked about. We still don't know what causes autism or other developmental issues, but this could be part of it. We know that ingesting pain killers can have side effects on adults, so it's likely that pain killers have an impact on fetuses and babies, too.
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ANOTHER, another positive economic sign;
New homes sales UP 21 % month to month the Highest rise since 2022 !
Cut your expenses, Save money !
To be honest, so much of the progressive left is only interested in giving lectures, not participating in debates. There is no marketplace of ideas for them. There is dogma. Anything other than full obedience to the dogma makes you a heretic, and they have their own Spanish Inquisition to deal with heretics.
This has nothing to do with MAGA or politics, but just this morning I was listening to a podcast on the autism epidemic, with a researcher/practitioner at Northwestern was discussing a growing body of evidence that cases where autism appears during development (i.e., the child develops normally for a short period of time before development halts and the child begins displaying spectrum symptoms), that imbalances in the gut, oral, and nasal microbiomes seem to be linked and possibly causal. Prenatal exposure to tylenol is linked to lower gut microbiome diversity, and microbiome imbalance. I'm not a medical professional so I can't weigh in on whether there are situations where the benefits outweigh the risks, or even how to quantify the risks, but as someone with a conservative temperament I would be inclined to steer clear of the risk were I in a relevant situation.
I've read some stuff on this as well. It certainly seems like something that should be researched more, but this is one thing that is tough to do a study on.
My wife was very hesitant to take anything during her pregnancy and during breast feeding. She put her body through a lot but didn't want to take anything that could harm the baby. You shouldn't be taking Tylenol when you are pregnant to treat a sore back. A sore back is one of the things that women have to go through to have a baby. High fever, talk to your doctor, you probably need to take something. Sore back? Sorry, this is going to be uncomfortable, but regular pain medication brings risks to the baby.
I do understand Jeff's point that high fever can have a negative impact on the baby too, and that should be discussed. Again, saying not to take it unless absolutely necessary seems like the best advice.
I have a major problem with people who just want this conversation shut down, and act like the science is settled. It's clearly not settled.
I think a lot of people are nervous about this conversation because it will make parents feel guilty, and they don't want to admit that something they ingested could have hurt their child's development. I understand that too. We all worry about things we do that could impact our kids long term.
But if we have no answers about the autism spectrum, and this is a possible cause, we should all be open to that discussion. I live in a suburb with a high density of kids. We know so many families with kids on the spectrum. I'm positive that some don't want to know that they could have caused it. But many others would like to research this, and we should try to find answers for those that want to have healthy/thriving babies in the future.
But if we have no answers about the autism spectrum, and this is a possible cause, we should all be open to that discussion. I live in a suburb with a high density of kids. We know so many families with kids on the spectrum. I'm positive that some don't want to know that they could have caused it. But many others would like to research this, and we should try to find answers for those that want to have healthy/thriving babies in the future.
There are ways to allow for young people to accumulate assets like; 1. NO income taxes on saving accounts interest ! 2. Deduction of CC yearly interest paid !
There are times that something extra is needed to reduce a fever. If your pregnant wife has a 103 fever, consult a doctor immediately. Maybe lower than that. Keep these discussions going, don’t shut down people from the other side.
I asked ChatGPT and it says the Bureau of Land Management (ie the govt) owns the land and a company called Solar Partners LLC built and runs it. The owners are NRG Energy (Houston based energy company) 50%, Google 28%, and a technology company based in Oakland 22%. I also asked about reclamation of the land after the plant and it could only identify that the LLC should have a bond to pay for it. Since it is an LLC, my guess is the owners have limited liability but Google does have deep pockets. Leaving abandoned mirrors, motors, etc, basically all the stuff they can't salvage in the desert would make most environmentalists cringe.
If you have some scandalous details, please share.
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Dems should be ashamed. Someone has now died.
No surprise here. Especially with what Stone posted yesterday.
Or a member of the PPU ?
I was a member of 3 Unions/Associations thru the years !
NFL Players Association.
NJSP Troopers Association.
NABET, National Assoc of Broadcast Electicians and Technicians, Local 15.
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I was an accountant who worked many years in health care and learned a great deal about research studies and funding.
Boondoggles in the middle of nowhere usually have some relative/friend/politician (see Calif RR project) that have attached themselves to make millions !
ChatGPT rooms are merely repositories of bogus information ! (see black Pope )
Agree, but they may want to try an alternative to acetaminophen for fever reduction if they have a lingering issue like the flu, Covid, etc.
These are discussions that need to occur, but people can't get past the politics of it (like everything else). RFK Jr. is a weird dude, no doubt, but we should look past the messenger and think about the explosion of chronic illness, ADHD, autism, etc. And certainly we should consider the motivations of the pharma companies. I don't see them as evil bad guys, but they do have motivation to sell as much of their products as possible.
The "here's a pill to take" culture in medicine isn't ideal.
You could argue that that culture is the engine that drives much of modern medicine. There may or may not be nefarious motives, but you see what happens when someone comes along and says, "Hey, maybe we should put more emphasis on keeping people from getting sick to begin with rather than waiting until they're already sick and then spend trillions so they get even sicker a little more slowly."
So, as an accountant who doesn't care about large debt, you fully support your party's push via Chuck-U Schumer to add 1.5T in additional debt or else the government shuts down. Got it. Hell of an accountant!
My political viewpoints have no impact on my accounting abilities. One has nothing to do with the other. What a strange comment.
For TJ: Illinois has released its own covid vaccine recommendations:
www.nbcchicago.com
- COVID-19 vaccination is recommended for:
- All children ages 6 months through 23 months.
- Children ages 2 years through 17 years who have at least one underlying risk factor, who have weakened immune systems, who have never been previously vaccinated for COVID-19, who live in congregate settings or live in households with those at risk for severe COVID-19.?
- Children ages 2 years through 17 years without underlying risk factors whose parents/guardians want them to get a COVID-19 vaccine.
- All pregnant people and those who are planning pregnancy, those who are postpartum (after pregnancy), or during lactation.
- All adults 18 years and older.
Illinois health department issues new vaccine guidance for fall respiratory virus season
Illinois' health department has released new vaccine guidance for the fall respiratory virus season, aiming to quell "disruption and confusion."
www.nbcchicago.com
MoronsFor TJ: Illinois has released its own covid vaccine recommendations:
- COVID-19 vaccination is recommended for:
- All children ages 6 months through 23 months.
- Children ages 2 years through 17 years who have at least one underlying risk factor, who have weakened immune systems, who have never been previously vaccinated for COVID-19, who live in congregate settings or live in households with those at risk for severe COVID-19.?
- Children ages 2 years through 17 years without underlying risk factors whose parents/guardians want them to get a COVID-19 vaccine.
- All pregnant people and those who are planning pregnancy, those who are postpartum (after pregnancy), or during lactation.
- All adults 18 years and older.
Illinois health department issues new vaccine guidance for fall respiratory virus season
Illinois' health department has released new vaccine guidance for the fall respiratory virus season, aiming to quell "disruption and confusion."
Let’s just say I have a CFO in the family. Your company must have been awful with an all talk, no budget guy like you who wants to spend 1.5 T that we don’t have.
Sorry, I have zero respect for an accountant who supports total waste.
Hard to take any guidance seriously when the idiots say “pregnant people”. An immediate warning that this is not serious “guidance”.For TJ: Illinois has released its own covid vaccine recommendations:
- COVID-19 vaccination is recommended for:
- All children ages 6 months through 23 months.
- Children ages 2 years through 17 years who have at least one underlying risk factor, who have weakened immune systems, who have never been previously vaccinated for COVID-19, who live in congregate settings or live in households with those at risk for severe COVID-19.?
- Children ages 2 years through 17 years without underlying risk factors whose parents/guardians want them to get a COVID-19 vaccine.
- All pregnant people and those who are planning pregnancy, those who are postpartum (after pregnancy), or during lactation.
- All adults 18 years and older.
Illinois health department issues new vaccine guidance for fall respiratory virus season
Illinois' health department has released new vaccine guidance for the fall respiratory virus season, aiming to quell "disruption and confusion."
I was a CFO for 13 years and you make no sense. You actually believe that only MAGA supporters are good accountants! Utterly bizarre.