You focused on the first sentence and ignored the rest. Other than ACA, what options are available for people without access to employer insurance? My wife has been self employed her whole life. The medical insurance options for her before ACA were crap.
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So, you are obviously lying to me about you being a CFO and really about you being employed, period. My significant other received healthcare through my jobs with large corporations and even a small company of 15 for the past many years.
Further, you can get health insurance through State Farm, coops, etc. It's out there, Jeff. Thanks to your love for exponentially increasing numbers of illegals, it isn't cheap at all! But, thanks to ICE and TrumpRx, some costs are being controlled. As a CFO, you know that reducing OPEX reduces costs, right?
The paperwork required by Obamacare caused my PCP and one specialist to abandon their practices as it was no longer affordable for them. Obamacare sucked, but as a good little liberal, you love big government!
Another state where Rs have made gains in contrast to Jeff’s crappy survey of Dems gaining everywhere.
As has already been said, the tax cuts were made permanent through the legislative process, the Dems are trying to make the ACA subsidies permanent through a shutdown that is harming lots of people. They were temporary during covid for a "reason" and were supposed to expire after covid. The Dems are moving the goal posts.
ACA could be much better. My healthy son was on it for awhile and the only "affordable" plan was a high deductible that didn't cover much. In both dental and medical coverage, the insurance companies offer better rates to employers than they do to individuals. Why, supposedly because there is less risk in group coverage.
Seems like smart people could figure out something better but obama care added no pre existing conditions, etc so the risk models of insurance companies use was upturned. In simple terms, you are subsidizing the rates for everyone else if you are healthy on obamacare, plus not getting lower group coverage rates.
Again, I think Doge could identify alot of waste in the medical community and it is one of our nation's biggest costs, which is significantly paid for by the govt thru medicare, medicaid, and various state programs. The total of all medical costs, hospitals, doctors, drugs, etc in 2023 was $4.9 trillion.
What about the impoverished people that are here legally? Many Americans lack funds for medical care.
Are undocumented immigrants eligible for federal health care programs and benefits?
In general, no. Undocumented immigrants are largely ineligible for federal healthcare programs like Medicaid and Medicare and are ineligible for most federal health care benefits, aside from emergency care.Due to the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act of 1996 (PRWORA), undocumented immigrants (and immigrants without permanent status like DACA recipients, TPS holders, or nonimmigrant visa holders) are barred from access to most federal benefits, including federal health care programs and assistance, including Medicaid and the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP).
Under the law, undocumented immigrants may only access federal benefits that are deemed necessary to protect life or guarantee safety in dire situations, such as emergency Medicaid, access to treatment in hospital emergency rooms, or access to healthcare and nutrition programs under the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children (WIC). order to be eligible for these emergency services, undocumented immigrants need to meet all of Medicaid’s other nonfinancial and financial eligibility requirements.
The Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act (EMTALA) ensures that all patients regardless of citizenship or immigration status have access to emergency medical treatment. The purpose of EMTALA is to ensure all Medicare-participating hospitals do not to turn away individuals who need lifesaving care. Undocumented immigrants use of EMTALA-related services is often covered via emergency Medicaid.
It is a continuing CR.
Looks like even Dems blame Dems according to the rightwing NYT. Schumer is a better comedian than politician
Jeff couldn't answer my question on only attacking Trump about runaway spending and not the left. He is basically a CNN talking points memo at this point.
LOL. The party to protect democracy!
Democrats are turning themselves into the enemies of democracy
They have talked themselves into shutting down the government, to secure concessions they don’t have the votes to winwww.telegraph.co.uk
Presumably none of the visitors show up when it’s hot in the Summer. Didn’t a certain claim tourism wasn’t a Summer thing?
Florida Tourism: 34.4M Visitors in Q2 2025
Most Q2 visitors were domestic, though overseas travel to Florida rose 11.4% year over year, according to state data.www.floridarealtors.org
People from Florida have it so good, and they don’t realize other cities/states are run incredibly poorly.
11% increase in overseas visitors YoY. I remember the predictions that this number would decrease. Wrong again.
And of course the few people who watch that program will believe them and not make the simple connection that reimbursement is actually paying for their health care. How dumb does a person have to be to lick that crap into their ears every weekday morning?
How is it possible tax cuts were made permanent through legislation? I have been told Trump is an authoritarian. Why would he want Americans to have more money in their pockets, if in fact he is the dicktater stoney claims him to be?
The last reporting cycle one blue State had 207 new Dems and 55,000 new Republicans !
It looks to me like Republicans have made substantial gains nationally in voter registration. I suspect Charlie Kirk has a temporary impact, especially because young people are the least likely to be registered, but the trend is very clear over the long term.
All of this is very good for the GOP in the long term (the short term of voter registration is probably less impactful). But what's likely best for Republicans is that it seems like they are absolutely consolidating their gains in the industrial Midwestern swing states while also performing well among younger and swing voter Hispanics in the Sunbelt (New Mexico/AZ/NV all show the same).
There are places where the emerging coalitions probably aren't as great for Rs - GA/NC in particular (tho Rs are gaining in NC registration, I suspect that's more a "realignment to voting preference" rather than a new surge of GOP support). This is because both the GOP still hasn't broken through with that many black voters while both states have become increasingly suburbanized by young, educated white voters that have trended Dem.
But from my end, Rs would happily trade any trend that saw them improve in MI/PA/AZ/NV all the while solidifying their hold on TX/FL in return for losing some ground in GA/NC. Wisconsin is a bit more complex IMHO so I have it in a neutral bag.
Republicans are making voter registration gains ahead of the midterms: From the Politics Desk
A different discussion. However, the US should only be taking in a small number of impoverished people every year. If the number of impoverished people is SMALL as it should be, coverage should be extended to those accepted through legal processes. I'd say most people wouldn't object to that.
However, Democrats targeted impoverished people and brought in millions of Somalis, Haitians, etc. that offer extremely little value to the USA. A truly sick plan by Democrats.
The 22,000 registration gain is far more significant than the "Charlie Kirk" gain as it indicates a real trend.
A good summary of key states here. Georgia apparently mirrors Duval County, Florida.
September 2025 Voter Registration by Party Updates for Key 2026 and 2028 Battlegrounds
I have been retired for two years and was on COBRA for 18 months. This is our first year with ACA insurance.
DUVAL!!! is much of the Jacksonville metro, basically. Which of course is extremely near the GA border and has demographics that aren't too dissimilar from the state of Georgia.
I won't go into my in depth opinions about that trend (let's just call it neutral, as nationally Republicans are benefitting a lot more from party switchers who've been voting R since at least 2014 in "registration switches"), but I will say this. Georgia is a Republican state still. Democrats have to do almost everything right - and watch Rs do a lot wrong - to win statewide in GA. Which means it's very impressive Rs have neither Senate seat in the state.
If I'm a R in GA, I'd hope my party nominates a likeable, normal Senate candidate and Dems pair Ossoff with another white candidate for Governor (it probably will be a former Atlanta mayor name Keisha Bottoms, who is black and seems fairly dissimilar to Abrams in her approach). That might be enough to slip Ossoff over the line, assuming a national vote of around D plus 4 or something in the House (GA won't swing as much, a very inelastic electorate).
You give estimates of surging Republican gains from Charlie....IGNORING the date of his Murder..
I have no idea what this post is supposed to mean, but I don't anticipate that Charlie Kirk's murder is going to be some sort of massive inflection point dramatically increasing GOP registration gains over a long period of time.
I do think there are fans of his (or younger people who were going to register soon) who may have been spurred on to register now by his murder. The large majority would have likely registered in the same manner before the next election.
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So, basically, your wife has had no issues until you retired.
I'm shocked you chose COBRA since that is the worst possible option. Even paying the full bill through the EXCHANGE, it was certainly no worse than COBRA. My estimate is an unsubsidized 25k / year for premiums for a couple around your age for very solid healthcare (at least in Arizona).
With low income on the exchange in 2024, you can get the same coverage in Arizona for around $230/month. I assume that massive 1500 / month subsidy is a big part of the argument.
One better have 25k/year for healthcare budgeted for every year one retires prior to Medicare eligibility.
This was written in late August in the NYT.
The Democratic Party’s Voter Registration Crisis - The New York Times
The Democratic Party’s Voter Registration Crisis - The New York Times
This is why we desperately need to save programs like Medicaid. Only providing coverage for American citizens should be a priority, so we can cover impoverished Americans.
Health Benefits For Immigrant Adults
Advancing its vision to foster healthcare equity, the State of Illinois is offering medical coverage to adults age 42 through age 64 regardless of their immigration status. HFS developed this program as part of its vision to encourage positive outcomes for our customers, address the social and...
hfs.illinois.gov
Illinois was giving it to adults 42+ when the never ending $$ was flowing in from Biden/Harris.
edit - looks like this didn’t use federal funds
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State audit finds IL massively overspent on undocumented immigrant health care program
SPRINGFIELD, Ill. (WCIA) –A state audit found a program providing undocumented immigrants in Illinois with healthcare ballooned past its expected spending. The Office of Auditor General relea…
www.wcia.com
For this wondering how much $$ Illinois spent on non citizens healthcare….
Other blue states similarly underestimated and overspent. Now they have even bigger budget crisis. Crazy how that works.
They all planned on being bailed out by Harris, and passing it on to the taxpayers.
Not only did the Autopen bin Biden admin place US citizens and legal residence last, and made us subjects of the UN and the Great Replacement.
Jabba just uses Illinois as his playground. It’s a shame Illinois never instituted term limits for governor. They didn’t need them for a while. They were all in prison.Health Benefits For Immigrant Adults
Advancing its vision to foster healthcare equity, the State of Illinois is offering medical coverage to adults age 42 through age 64 regardless of their immigration status. HFS developed this program as part of its vision to encourage positive outcomes for our customers, address the social and...
Illinois was giving it to adults 42+ when the never ending $$ was flowing in from Biden/Harris.
edit - looks like this didn’t use federal funds
If we are being real, we watched Chicago actually find a worse mayor than BeetleJuice.
I believe Senators from Maine and Pennsylvania voted for the CR and I don't see those states on the list - but they also have an R Senator. So....
It simply means you can't attribute His murder to any of your cockamamie reasons for nationwide gains for Republicans, it's too early !
I don't even know where to start, particularly because I am actually rejecting the hypothesis that Charlie Kirk's murder is having a meaningful impact on long-term voter registration trends. These trends go back to at least 2020.
So from all anyone can tell, you agreed with me. But for reasons unknown, you want on the attack because you were somehow convinced my post had to be wrong. Seems like maybe the real derangement syndrome in play on here is "DTrain Derangement Syndrome" as applied to you.
My NJ bar friend had bad luck using relatives to run bars.
The Carrier Clinic is a rehab hospital for druggies and alcoholics.
1. His first Wife, after the divorce !
2. His Mom, for the Curse of the Irish. She was the one who caught Uncle Bo Bo hitting the cash for $ 500 a day.
3. Uncle Bo Bo, Cash was King in his world.
4. Younger Brother, as the Chef would drink 5 th of vodka in the kitchen.
5. Close friend, Cocaine , different bar. So fouled up he would forget to deposit CC receipts. $ 64,000 just on AMEX !
6. Different close friend, different bar. Alcoholic and the guy that put a dead body in the walk-in freezer, what to do ?
7. Different close friend, different bar. Sold it to this guy, down payment check bounced.
NO, I never wanted to run a bar.
Medi-Cal and the Federal Government — Policy at a Glance - California Health Care Foundation
Learn some of the basics about the Medi-Cal program, including the important role that the federal government plays in funding and overseeing the program.
www.chcf.org
Those states used federal $ to fund their programs. 62% of Medi-Cal’s funding comes from the federal govt.
Biden admin place US citizens and legal residence last, and made us subjects of the UN and the Great Replacement.
Geez Uncoach, you are really off the Qanon deep end. Wow!
Geez Uncoach, you are really off the Qanon deep end. Wow!