This is wild. The Dems haven’t reached the bottom yet, but they are close.
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This is wild. The Dems haven’t reached the bottom yet, but they are close.
A lot of people in the insurance world spoke up against Obamacare. Said it would only make things more expensive, and it would be disastrous in the end. It was built to fail. They were shouted down repeatedly. Vindication. The damn is breaking, and there is no fix. Obama’s legacy.
I am not criticizing Trump for not having a plan passed. However, Trump has no plan at all.
IT IS PRIVATE INSURANCE with a subsidy for the premiums for those qualified. That is all that Obamacare is. What is there to fail , private insurance?
Didn't the Republicans try to pass an alternative to obamacare and John McCain voted against it so it didn't pass? I'm guessing it wasn't that great since they haven't resurrected it.
I know McCain voted against a skinny repeal of ACA when he had cancer.
IT IS PRIVATE INSURANCE with a subsidy for the premiums for those qualified. That is all that Obamacare is. What is there to fail , private insurance?
It is not insurance if they can’t assess risk.
It’s clearly failing. Costs have done nothing but go up. This was predicted by many, including me.
This was intentional. The goal was always for insurance companies to fail and for the country to be pushed to universal healthcare funded by more taxes. Again, I told you this years ago.
Now, just as predicted, they want to blame insurance companies for the rising premiums, deductibles, etc.
It is insurance, private insurance and they assess risk. Medical costs are going up (as they have since the beginning of time) and that has nothing to do with Obamacare. My private insurance is going up another 9% next year and I am grateful it is not the 18% some are going up.
You are incredibly simple minded. When Obamacare required insurance companies to insure the uninsurable, it was obvious the costs would be shifted to the insurable. Talk to an actuary, they will tell you this very obvious truth.
You think insurance companies were going to cover people like John McCain, without raising costs on everyone else? Use your brain a little bit.
You probably have a good broker that negotiated a smaller increase. That’s what every broker is doing this time of year. If your broker has a block of business with an insurance company, they can negotiate down the increases on the entire block. The brokers with one or two clients will be delivering 30-40% increases to make up for it.
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False. But, you support the crapfest that was and is Obamacare. Passed with zero Republican votes.
Market at a record high. You were 15 last time border crossings were this low. Liberation Day 6 months ago, five months until Jeff says in 6 months I will give him credit.
Your brain is mush and as a great Democrat, you are responsible for nothing!
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McCain lied to get reelected. He promised Arizona he would vote to repeal. The thin skinned pathetic loser screwed Arizona and the nation to “get” Trump. His legacy - a big time corrupt loser.
You prefer the insurance companies only insure the young and healthy with no prior conditions? That is good. What is your solution for all of the rest? Medicaid?
I think we should increase Medicare for the uninsurable. I have said that in the past.
If the government wants to cover the uninsurable, they should. They should not require insurance companies to raise costs on everyone to “insure” the uninsurable. Again, it’s not insurance if you know you are going to pay more in benefits than you will ever receive in premiums.
The GOP has not campained on lowering costs and protecting the uninsurable. Obama did that. He was successful with one part of it - protecting the uninsurable. It was completely unsuccessful in lowering costs.
I understand why Obama wanted to do this. Again, successful in one aspect. But it led to increasing costs and it was entirely predictable.
I also told people years ago it would be almost impossible to replace. That turned out to be true.
One thing I would like the GOP to do....tell us how much it would cost to increase Medicare to cover the uninsurable. Would it require a 1% tax increase? I think people would be on board with that. If the # is much higher than that, I don't think people would support it. Lay out the costs for us.
Could they cover the uninsurable after making cuts to USAID and other organizations? Flip the script, force Democrats to make tough decisions. Do you want funding for ridiculous causes in other countries, or do you want to support uninsurable Americans?
Heck, if you're the Democrats, tell us how much you would have to increase taxes on billionaires to cover the uninsurable. Put the #s in front of the public and let us decide how to best handle it.
Could they cover the uninsurable after making cuts to USAID and other organizations? Flip the script, force Democrats to make tough decisions. Do you want funding for ridiculous causes in other countries, or do you want to support uninsurable Americans?
Heck, if you're the Democrats, tell us how much you would have to increase taxes on billionaires to cover the uninsurable. Put the #s in front of the public and let us decide how to best handle it.
Oh OK, that is an option. It might be a better one than what we have.
Congress essentially does nothing. Thune sent a X post about this that was about as firm as a fat woman’s bottom.
Even CNN knows Trump is living up to his promises.I wish he was totally honest and never told a lie like Trump is.
Deranged and mentally ill people like you, Jeff, and all Democrats in office save Fettermen spastically just say Hitler, liar, Stalin, murderer. It’s all you’ve got since Trump has caused your brains to completely malfunction.
This is falseIT IS PRIVATE INSURANCE with a subsidy for the premiums for those qualified. That is all that Obamacare is. What is there to fail , private insurance?
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You mean "The Affordable Care Act" was a lie? Huh, who knew? Oh, every Republican.
ALL illegal immigrants with REMOVABLE RULINGS or SKIPPED their Immigration Rulings.
The worst of the Bidens keeps getting worse....
FBI surveillance of sitting Republican Senators and House members !
Ukraine payments of millions to BCF !
FBI surveillance of sitting Republican Senators and House members !
Ukraine payments of millions to BCF !
I'm not against that, just trying to get them the hell OUT of the USA, by any means !
I believe he means that those who would not normally be covered by Medicare and are deemed uninsurable would then be covered by Medicare.
The education system needs a break down to the skeleton and rebuilt without these “teachers” who clearly aren’t teaching.
My son has Cerebral Palsy. He is qualified for medicare.
Is it for the helpless or the clueless? I am all for help for the former. There are people I am probably not thinking of that need the help.
Horrible educators that are ruining children's lives are now passing judgement on law enforcement.
Typically, the same group of people that get denied large amounts of life and disability insurance. People that already have cancer, just had a heart attack, elderly (already on Medicare), etc. To put it in simple terms, people that are likely going to receive a lot more $ in benefits than they will pay in premium.
The tricky stuff is chronic conditions like diabetes. Insurance companies pay a lot of $ in benefits to diabetics for a long time. Healthy people pay more in premiums because of it. Do we put all diabetics on Medicare? It should help them focus on bringing down the cost of treatments, and look to remove the causes of diabetes for so many Americans. It’s not simple, but our politicians can’t even get to the table for reasonable conversation.